Can we move to scheduling our interview with only MNL# in hand?

[manong vendor 0]

Just wanted to add that in some consulates, the K1 might be valid for less than 6 months from the medical, if the applicant has a history of TB or HIV. Singapore is definitely one of them (3 months validity). If the applicant wishes to delay entering the US, they would have to pay for a new medical which would also be valid for 3 months from the medical. Since there is so much variance at the consulate stage, I've no idea if Manila actually adheres to this.

I did find this old thread that suggests the applicant (who has a history of TB) was informed her medical would be valid for 3 months/90 days, but the OP never posted back to confirm this.

thanks Kit, I rest my case...

[Hank_ 9,174]

thanks Kit, I rest my case...

Not that you have a case, or anything factual regarding the K-1 validity for the Philippines

... psst... and this is the Philippines forum, the discussion was relating to the Philippines and how things are here in the Philippines and USEM.

Just the same, I am glad you are done with the baseless information relating to K-1 visa validity with USEM.

[evansly 0]

Thank you Leon and Mylen.

Now, my mind is settled already..

Thanks for all the help guys..

God Bless us all!

See, now you learned again exactly what I've been telling you.

I got this covered.

[makulit909 4]

sorry guys but I want to provide a scenerio for my best interest as well... and this is the case for my fiance right now...

Nov 13, 2013 - medical, at 2pm his x-ray resulted to suspected positive of TB so needed to come back for sputum test

Nov 25-27, 2013 - sputum test

Nov 28, 2013 - result of smear (positive or negative ???)

Jan 27, 2014 - the wait of 2 months culture test result (positive of negative ????)

(2 MONTHS HAVE PASSED then)

IF NEGATIVE TB result:

Needed to get scheduled for interview ASAP - he has only 4 months window left since K1 visa is valid for 6 months)

let say March 2013 - interview and passed (My fiance has 2 more months to get his visa and be booked to US)

TOTAL: 6 months (NOV 13, 2013 -MAY 13, 2013)

IF POSITIVE TB Result (PLEASE NOOO!)

Needed to do a 6-month treatment

let say Feb 1, 2014 - start of the treament

August 1, 2014 - done treatment

August 3 - NEW MEDICAL START DATE (need to pay again?)

all test negative result

then he will be given a 6-month K1 visa validity from Aug 3,2014 ????

Is my flowchart correct?

Edited November 16, 2013 by makulit909

[Hank_ 9,174]

sorry guys but I want to provide a scenerio for my best interest as well... and this is the case for my fiance right now...

Nov 13, 2013 - medical, at 2pm his x-ray resulted to suspected positive of TB so needed to come back for sputum test

Nov 25-27, 2013 - sputum test

Nov 28, 2013 - result of smear (positive or negative ???)

Jan 27, 2014 - the wait of 2 months culture test result (positive of negative ????)

(2 MONTHS HAVE PASSED then)

IF NEGATIVE TB result:

Needed to get scheduled for interview ASAP - he has only 4 months window left since K1 visa is valid for 6 months)

let say March 2013 - interview and passed (My fiance has 2 more months to get his visa and be booked to US)

Yup! At this point he would have two months left to enter the USA.

TOTAL: 6 months (NOV 13, 2013 -MAY 13, 2013)

IF POSITIVE TB Result (PLEASE NOOO!)

Needed to do a 6-month treatment

let say Feb 1, 2014 - start of the treament

August 1, 2014 - done treatment

August 3 - NEW MEDICAL START DATE (need to pay again?)

all test negative result

then he will be given a 6-month K1 visa validity from Aug 3,2014 ????

Is my flowchart correct?

Yes you have to pay for a new medical, then complete the interview process. But I am betting you won't be waiting long after the visa arrives...

Edited November 16, 2013 by Hank_

[makulit909 4]

ok.. everything makes sense to me now.. thanks, Hank!

[kitthekat 1,317]

Not that you have a case, or anything factual regarding the K-1 validity for the Philippines

... psst... and this is the Philippines forum, the discussion was relating to the Philippines and how things are here in the Philippines and USEM.

Just the same, I am glad you are done with the baseless information relating to K-1 visa validity with USEM.

I did a search (because I have way too much time on my hands and it distracts me while waiting for my interview date lol) and found a few K1 cases in USEM who were informed they had to leave the country within 90 days either because of TB history or following treatment for TB. I linked you one example via PM. That, plus the earlier post I linked, suggests SLEC does indeed adhere to the regulations that Manong Vendor attached.

I think this is something that is dependent on the type of TB classification (class A with/without waiver, class B1/2/3). Not all TB cases require exit within 90 days (e.g. class B2 and B3 do not, if I am reading the 2007 regulations correctly).

The tricky part is in the wording. In certain cases, the medical is valid for 3 months. If the applicant does not depart for the US within the specified period of time, they would need to get another medical done. This is not contradictory to what is written on the USEM website - K1s are valid for a maximum of 6 months, but they can certainly be issued for less than that. Since the validity of the K1 is tied to the validity of the medical, in such cases, the applicant would be informed that they should leave within 3 months or get a new medical.

Makulit909, I'm sorry to derail your thread. Best wishes to you and your fiance and I sincerely hope the culture test comes back negative.

[makulit909 4]

I did a search (because I have way too much time on my hands and it distracts me while waiting for my interview date lol) and found a few K1 cases in USEM who were informed they had to leave the country within 90 days either because of TB history or following treatment for TB. I linked you one example via PM. That, plus the earlier post I linked, suggests SLEC does indeed adhere to the regulations that Manong Vendor attached.

I think this is something that is dependent on the type of TB classification (class A with/without waiver, class B1/2/3). Not all TB cases require exit within 90 days (e.g. class B2 and B3 do not, if I am reading the 2007 regulations correctly).

The tricky part is in the wording. In certain cases, the medical is valid for 3 months. If the applicant does not depart for the US within the specified period of time, they would need to get another medical done. This is not contradictory to what is written on the USEM website - K1s are valid for a maximum of 6 months, but they can certainly be issued for less than that. Since the validity of the K1 is tied to the validity of the medical, in such cases, the applicant would be informed that they should leave within 3 months or get a new medical.

Makulit909, I'm sorry to derail your thread. Best wishes to you and your fiance and I sincerely hope the culture test comes back negative.

Oh no, don't feel sorry..that's fine. So are you saying that after 2 months of culture..if it turned out to be positive, depending on the classification.. fiance can leave the country within 3 months even while on treament?

negative result - need to leave the country within 4 months

positive result:

Class A - needs to leave the country within 90 days (with treatment or treatment to be done in US?)

Class B - needs to leave the country after 6-month treatment if turned out to be negative result from 2nd medical???

Am I making more sense?????

Well, I am just hoping and praying that he will be with me in February 2014!!!!

[Hank_ 9,174]

Just wanted to add that in some consulates, the K1 might be valid for less than 6 months from the medical, if the applicant has a history of TB or HIV. Singapore is definitely one of them (3 months validity). If the applicant wishes to delay entering the US, they would have to pay for a new medical which would also be valid for 3 months from the medical. Since there is so much variance at the consulate stage, I've no idea if Manila actually adheres to this.

I did find this old thread that suggests the applicant (who has a history of TB) was informed her medical would be valid for 3 months/90 days, but the OP never posted back to confirm this.

Very obviously you did not read that complete thread and where looking for anything that hinted at "90 days" even if it was something "he said but don't know for fact"... just rumor BS, because in THAT topic (that I also posted in) it was further disclosed that person only did the sputum testing not treatment so a new medical was not required but because they lost an additional two months since the initial medical the time remaining for completing the interview and the visa delivery was very limited.

Still no facts about 90 days after TREATMENT.

[kitthekat 1,317]

Very obviously you did not read that complete thread and where looking for anything that hinted at "90 days" even if it was something "he said but don't know for fact"... just rumor BS, because in THAT topic (that I also posted in) it was further disclosed that person only did the sputum testing not treatment so a new medical was not required but because they lost an additional two months since the initial medical the time remaining for completing the interview and the visa delivery was very limited.

Still no facts about 90 days after TREATMENT.

Actually, in that link, the OP's fiance had a history of TB, "scaring (sic) from her episode with TB 3 years ago." Hence, at the medical, the XRAY showed "something", which required sputum testing - results in 2 months. IF the results showed all clear, then she would have to exit the country within "90 days of starting her medical" or do a new medical. 90 days/ 3 months - 2 months = 1 month remaining to schedule the interview and leave the country, hence the OP's worry.

The other link I posted to you via PM, the OP's timeline clearly indicates his fiance had been treated for TB, did a new medical, and was told to exit within 90 days. Here, I will post it again:

19 NOV - Physical - Sputum collection ordered & completed by 23 Nov :-( :-( Interview canceled!

28 NOV - Negative initial result on sputum :-) Waiting 2 months for culture result. NEG please

7 DEC - Positive Culture. Called to St. Lukes; appointment Tues 11 DEC :-( Ohhh well

11 DEC - Moved to Manila for TB treatment.

15 MAR 13 - The Clinic Does Not Inform the Patients Well. Ask Questions if You have Them.

10 JUN - Finished treatment and waiting for 1 month for final culture negative.

11 JUL 13 - Back to SLEC for re-Physical (pay fee again). Final culture result of 10 JUL requires entry to USA within 90 days.

Makulit, no, if the result is positive I believe you would have to stay and complete treatment (6 months?) first before doing another medical.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Actually, in that link, the OP's fiance had a history of TB, "scaring (sic) from her episode with TB 3 years ago." Hence, at the medical, the XRAY showed "something", which required sputum testing - results in 2 months. IF the results showed all clear, then she would have to exit the country within "90 days of starting her medical" or do a new medical. 90 days/ 3 months - 2 months = 1 month remaining to schedule the interview and leave the country, hence the OP's worry.

The other link I posted to you via PM, the OP's timeline clearly indicates his fiance had been treated for TB, did a new medical, and was told to exit within 90 days. Here, I will post it again:

19 NOV - Physical - Sputum collection ordered & completed by 23 Nov :-( :-( Interview canceled!

28 NOV - Negative initial result on sputum :-) Waiting 2 months for culture result. NEG please

7 DEC - Positive Culture. Called to St. Lukes; appointment Tues 11 DEC :-( Ohhh well

11 DEC - Moved to Manila for TB treatment.

15 MAR 13 - The Clinic Does Not Inform the Patients Well. Ask Questions if You have Them.

10 JUN - Finished treatment and waiting for 1 month for final culture negative.

11 JUL 13 - Back to SLEC for re-Physical (pay fee again). Final culture result of 10 JUL requires entry to USA within 90 days.

Makulit, no, if the result is positive I believe you would have to stay and complete treatment (6 months?) first before doing another medical.

I read through that link and did see they said they had to leave for the USA in 90 days, but that 90 day limitation that was referenced very likely was they were approaching the end of the 1 year validity of their visa application, as November would have been the moment in time when they initially paid the visa fee, as that reference was before they had attended the interview. They did not state the 90 days was a limitation from SLEC or USEM.

That dog just doesn't hunt.

GregOry & Taring

TIMELINE FOR K-1 VISA

19 APR 12 - Arrived in Philippines to STAY until the VISA is ready.

5 MAY 12 – MAILED PETITION FROM PHILIPPINES TO DALLAS, TEXAS

11 MAY – EMAIL NOTIFICATION “… received and routed to the Vermont Service Center for processing.”

1 NOV 12 - APPROVED - Post Decision Activity (email notification DID NOT happen - found out by checking status at USCIS site)

14 NOV - Called NVC: # assigned and sent to Manila embassy 13 Nov.

19 NOV - Physical - Sputum collection ordered & completed by 23 Nov :-( :-( Interview canceled!

28 NOV - Negative initial result on sputum :-) Waiting 2 months for culture result. NEG please

7 DEC - Positive Culture. Called to St. Lukes; appointment Tues 11 DEC :-( Ohhh well

11 DEC - Moved to Manila for TB treatment.

15 MAR 13 - The Clinic Does Not Inform the Patients Well. Ask Questions if You have Them.

10 JUN - Finished treatment and waiting for 1 month for final culture negative.

11 JUL 13 - Back to SLEC for re-Physical (pay fee again). Final culture result of 10 JUL requires entry to USA within 90 days.

22 JUL - Back to SLEC for vaccinations.

29 JUL - INTERVIEW - VISA SUPPOSEDLY APPROVED

20 AUG - Still WAITING. Status said "Administrative Processing" then "Ready" (for interview) then "Administrative Processing" then "Ready" again and the "Case Creation Date" changed to 16 August 2013 from November 2012? "Check in two business days."

23 AUG - Updated to "Administrative Processing" again :-(

26 AUG - ISSUED - YEAH! ! !

[kitthekat 1,317]

I read through that link and did see they said they had to leave for the USA in 90 days, but that 90 day limitation that was referenced very likely was they were approaching the end of the 1 year validity of their visa application, as November would have been the moment in time when they initially paid the visa fee, as that reference was before they had attended the interview. They did not state the 90 days was a limitation from SLEC or USEM.

That dog just doesn't hunt.

1 Nov - NOA2 (petition would expire on 31 Oct?)

14 Nov - they got their MNL case number, so this is also the earliest they could pay their fee

90 days from 10 Jul (as written in the timeline) is 8 Oct, which means at the point of their 2nd medical, the petition would only expire in ~110, not 90 days. The numbers don't add up.

90 days is, however, the validity of the medical for individuals with certain medical classifications, and the timeframe given for them to depart the country that is listed in the regulations.

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 Nov - NOA2 (petition would expire on 31 Oct?)

14 Nov - they got their MNL case number, so this is also the earliest they could pay their fee

90 days from 10 Jul (as written in the timeline) is 8 Oct, which means at the point of their 2nd medical, the petition would only expire in ~110, not 90 days. The numbers don't add up.

90 days is, however, the validity of the medical for individuals with certain medical classifications, and the timeframe given for them to depart the country that is listed in the regulations.

They already "knew" the date for their interview and that was the end of July. It is all speculation as to what they were referencing for their "90 days". You know.... ASSUME.

They did not come back and post what the ACTUAL visa validity date was... this reference of yours is nothing more then someone posting obscure information, no different then the other post you referenced where some mentioned "90 days" and had no basis in fact either.

You really are wasting my time... I could be watching grass grow and be more productive.

Edited November 18, 2013 by Hank_

[kitthekat 1,317]

They already "knew" the date for their interview and that was the end of July. It is all speculation as to what they were referencing for their "90 days". You know.... ASSUME.

They did not come back and post what the ACTUAL visa validity date was... this reference of yours is nothing more then someone posting obscure information, no different then the other post you referenced where some mentioned "90 days" and had no basis in fact either.

You really are wasting my time... I could be watching grass grow and be more productive.

A minor correction - you assumed the 90 days was linked to the validity of the USCIS petition. I referenced a document posted by the Department of State that clearly outlines the validity of the medical in certain cases involving TB, and also corroborates the timelines posted in the other two threads.

Personally, I have never felt the need to be antagonistic to someone who has an opposing point of view to my own in a discussion. YMMV.

[kitthekat 1,317]

Here is another K1 poster, ManilatoSeattle, who was informed their medical had a validity of 3 months. In a previous post, they said they had "Minimal Tuberculosis findings 7 years ago" and were treated for 6 months.