Am I Considered Married in the Philippines?

[SennaBrigante 92]

My husband and I got married in Texas last September. We still haven't reported the marriage to the Phil Embassy.

I'm in the Philippines now waiting for oour CR-1 to be filed. While here I want to work and apply for jobs.

Is my marital status here single or married if my marriage hasn't been reported yet?

Thanks.

[Jon and Krissy 452]

If you are married, your status is married. To report otherwise would be fraud.

[edit] Wait, are you talking about for job applications in the Philippines? Well, I don't really think it matters what you tell potential employers there, as it is really none of their business....

Edited November 7, 2013 by Jon and Sol

[poolbruce 22]

Your Married ! remember, when he filed with USCIS you had to supply wedding certificate for CR1. Once approved and goes to State Dept.(NVC), they forward all paperwork to Embassy. But, bring copy with you to interview

[clairegie 265]

I'm not a professional, only giving my opinion

On a technicality, you are single in the Philippines.

But you might want to report your marriage to be recorded in the Philippines. Wouldn't you need the NSO authenticated Report of Marriage that you were married abroad to renew your passport with your married name, which should also match the CR-1 visa you will be filing for?

[SennaBrigante 92]

Thanks guys/gals.

But yeah, I haven't reported our marriage to the Philippine Embassy yet so we can't get an NSO certified certificate. From my understanding, only NSO licenses are recognized in the Philippines.

I'm just confused as to which surname I need to use legally in the Philippines.

I don't need to renew my passport yet since it's expiring in 4 years. But I do need to update my PhilHealth so I'm not sure which marital status to use.

Edited November 7, 2013 by SennaBrigante

[Hank_ 9,174]

You will have to file your marriage in the Phils to complete the CR-1 process as they will be asking for an NSO CEMAR.

[Caryh 5,206]

You will have to file your marriage in the Phils to complete the CR-1 process as they will be asking for an NSO CEMAR.

Can she even file her marriage direct in the Philippines? Filing abroad requires you to file with the consulate with authority in the place you were married. Say you marry in Australia, but are living in Singapore, the report forms need to be filed in the proper consulate in Australia, then forwarded to the NSO. I've always presumed this was because the consulate with jurisdiction of the marriage location would best be able to judge if the marriage was completed legally and the certificate was real.

http://www.osg.gov.ph/index.php/component/content/article/35-registration/319-registration-of-marriage

[Hank_ 9,174]

Can she even file her marriage direct in the Philippines? Filing abroad requires you to file with the consulate with authority in the place you were married. Say you marry in Australia, but are living in Singapore, the report forms need to be filed in the proper consulate in Australia, then forwarded to the NSO. I've always presumed this was because the consulate with jurisdiction of the marriage location would best be able to judge if the marriage was completed legally and the certificate was real.

http://www.osg.gov.ph/index.php/component/content/article/35-registration/319-registration-of-marriage

There are a bunch of assumptions with that, one being that neither party of the marriage is still residing in the Philippines.

Luckily Report of Marriage can all be done through the mail.

ROM may have to be filed in a consulate (not the place they were married, but where they reside), but one thing is for certain the marriage needs to be reported, as they have to have the CEMAR during the CR-1 process.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Hank_

[Caryh 5,206]

ROM may have to be filed in a consulate, but one thing is for certain the marriage needs to be reported, as they have to have the CEMAR during the CR-1 process.

Yes, they certainly do need to report it for the CEMAR! I just don't want them wasting time attempting to report the marriage through the wrong venue. Or worse yet, filing the papers to only have them ignored because the venue is wrong.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Caryh

[Hank_ 9,174]

It didn't take but a few weeks for the consulate to get our marriage recorded, just not sure how long it takes for it to show up at NSO.

I wouldn't be too concerned about whether to put married or single on a job application, but for sure focused on getting the marriage records and into NSO records. After that might as well handle getting her passport updated to her married name.

I guess that sort of answers her question as well.....

[dens 5]

Lets us put in other situation like myself am legally married from philippines and am not legally married here in US unfortunately I was petition by my mother as LPR, single child 21 years under then during my stay and having job for more year then I went back to Philippines to pursue my studies. When at age of 21 as I remember I proposed to my only one sweetheart to be with me in my life,we get married

but then went back here in US my status hasn't changed as a single, whenever there is such things like application when filling in or attached for some reason I haven't declared as a single I always put married. .for future purposes

So I guess pretty the same on your be

half. Infact if you're still an LPR your status as a filipino still filipino

unless you naturalized then you can be a former filipino in that country.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Lets us put in other situation like myself am legally married from philippines and am not legally married here in US unfortunately I was petition by my mother as LPR, single child 21 years under then during my stay and having job for more year then I went back to Philippines to pursue my studies. When at age of 21 as I remember I proposed to my only one sweetheart to be with me in my life,we get married

but then went back here in US my status hasn't changed as a single, whenever there is such things like application when filling in or attached for some reason I haven't declared as a single I always put married. .for future purposes

So I guess pretty the same on your be

half. Infact if you're still an LPR your status as a filipino still filipino

unless you naturalized then you can be a former filipino in that country.

1st. If you are legally married in the Philippines, you are legally married in the USA as well... the marriage in the Philippines is recognized in the USA. The USA does not have a national system for reporting marriage, once you are married you simple put married on all documents. You take a copy of your marriage certificate from the Philippines to SSA to get your SSN updated to your married name. You take a copy of your marriage license to motor vehicles department to get your driver's license updated to your married name.

[SennaBrigante 92]

I don't see a CEMAR requirement on the CR-1 documentation. Just these:

• 3 Passport Style Color Photos (See Specifications)
• Birth Certificate
• Copy of current and valid Passport (all pages)
• Police Certificate(s)
• Prior Marriage Termination Documentation (Divorce certificate(s), Death certificate(s) etc. if applicable)
• Military Records (if applicable)
• Court and Prison Records (if applicable)
• Deportation Documentation (if applicable)

[Hank_ 9,174]

I don't see a CEMAR requirement on the CR-1 documentation. Just these:

• 3 Passport Style Color Photos (See Specifications)
• Birth Certificate
• Copy of current and valid Passport (all pages)
• Police Certificate(s)
• Prior Marriage Termination Documentation (Divorce certificate(s), Death certificate(s) etc. if applicable)
• Military Records (if applicable)
• Court and Prison Records (if applicable)
• Deportation Documentation (if applicable)

Try the embassy instructions letter for the CR-1, item 3.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/manila/19452/public/Packet%204%20_appointment%20packet_%20English%20rtf%20_revised%20GSS_%20_2_%20rtf2_rtf_april2012_rtf2_002.pdf

And here:

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwh3217.html

Oh and you will be asked for a CEMAR by NVC at some point if I read/remember things correctly.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Hank_

[Caryh 5,206]

Lets us put in other situation like myself am legally married from philippines and am not legally married here in US unfortunately I was petition by my mother as LPR, single child 21 years under then during my stay and having job for more year then I went back to Philippines to pursue my studies. When at age of 21 as I remember I proposed to my only one sweetheart to be with me in my life,we get married

but then went back here in US my status hasn't changed as a single, whenever there is such things like application when filling in or attached for some reason I haven't declared as a single I always put married. .for future purposes

So I guess pretty the same on your be

half. Infact if you're still an LPR your status as a filipino still filipino

unless you naturalized then you can be a former filipino in that country.

Filipinos who become naturalized citizens in the USA, can still be Philippine Citizens, as long as they retake an oath of allegiance to the Philippines.

Republic Act No. 9225 August 29, 2003

Section 1. Short Title – this act shall be known as the "Citizenship Retention and Re-acquisition Act of 2003."

Section 2. Declaration of Policy - It is hereby declared the policy of the State that all Philippine citizens of another country shall be deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under the conditions of this Act.

Section 3. Retention of Philippine Citizenship - Any provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, natural-born citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country are hereby deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking the following oath of allegiance to the Republic:

"I _____________________, solemny swear (or affrim) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines and obey the laws and legal orders promulgated by the duly constituted authorities of the Philippines; and I hereby declare that I recognize and accept the supreme authority of the Philippines and will maintain true faith and allegiance thereto; and that I imposed this obligation upon myself voluntarily without mental reservation or purpose of evasion."