Got section 221g'd

[Anonymous456 1]

221g'd...

Easily the lowest point in my life right now. I thought I for sure was going to finally live with my wife. I'm feeling sick to my stomach

Visa refused. I got section 221g due to a DUI I had nearly 3 years ago.

CO told me I must talk to my panel physician first about this, obtain a letter from him and send it back to the CO office along with my passport.

I contacted my panel physician and I was informed that its a multi step process and that I must first go to my family doctor to do some pre screening for alcohol abuse. THEN obtain a notarized reference letter.


Well..

1. My family doctor passed away nearly a year ago. I use walk in clinics now.
I went to several walk in clinics. All of which refuse to do the pre screening but of course are willing to do a DRUG TEST (not alcohol, DRUG TEST). For a fee. LOL of course they want my money. I of course denied the drug test. What good is a drug test when they won't do the questionnaire?

2. I cannot find anybody to do this questionnaire for me, the panel physician wants $500 per hour to do any kind of consulting which is... Jeeze. Unaffordable right now?


I can't believe something so stupid.. A dumb mistake from the past is coming back to haunt me like this. As if court ordered counselling and jail time wasn't enough in the first place I have to do all this because they think I'm a raging alcoholic. I know it's not the interviewees fault. She was so nice and was following a guideline. It just quirks me that even though they had proof in their hands of my previous counselling it's not acceptable.

I can't even stand alcohol. I feel like a puppet.


Can I visit the US after a 221g? I'd like to visit my wife.

[Ontarkie 13,979]

I don't know how much this will help, but my ex went to the Health Unit they have a drug and alcohol program and nurse it didn't cost him anything. Maybe you can call them and see if they can help.

I'm sorry about that, I know we had one member who had a very old dui and had a similar experience. He ended up jumping a lot of hoops before getting his visa. I will try to find his threads.

[Udella&Wiz 325]

I am sorry - you sound crushed.

Any chance you can find a new famiy doctor, go to one your parents/siblings go to who might accept you as a patient easily, and go that route? The Health Unit sounds like a possibility. You mihgt also try a local AA chapter who might have resource suggestions or a subtance abuse centre of some kind. They offer many services for free.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Get on the phone and try and find a new dr, which I know is hard to do, but if you explain the situation, they may realize your not going to be a long term customer, so they may squeeze you in. the one guy I recall took well over a year to get it completed. Most of that time I think was it just sitting at the embassy!

[Anonymous456 1]

Oh my. Reading these replies is stressing me out like crazy.

I have a feeling that the embassy is going to give me the run around even if I send everything in.

Does anyone know what kind of procedure they do? Blood/Urine test? Price?

I am currently contacting all friends and family for help.

[Udella&Wiz 325]

Did they detail what the prescreening process and tests are?

[Anonymous456 1]

Did they detail what the prescreening process and tests are?

I'm going to copy and paste the document the panel physician sent me to complete.

Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas, M.D., C.C.F.P.

200 St. Clair Avenue West

Suite 101W

Toronto, Ontario M4V 1R1

416-960-1014, Fax 1-866-259-7220, E-mail doctorlyndon@bellnet.ca

APPLICANT’S QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ALCOHOL-RELATED OFFENCES

Please read carefully and seek legal advice as required before you sign the consent.

You have a history of a charge or conviction for an alcohol-related offense. In order to render an opinion regarding

your use of alcohol, you must provide detailed information from yourself and your treating physical/healthcare

practitioner(s) or a specialist in addiction medicine.

Our fee for processing this form and providing information to representatives of the Government of the United

States of America is $500.00 CAD. In the event that Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas is unable to process this form due

to additional information required, Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas will charge you a fee of $500.00 CAD per hour for

communications with you, your healthcare provider(s) and/or legal adviser, as well as for reviewing and disclosing

any additional information to representatives of the Government of the United States of America. You will be

notified if additional information is required. Please return completed form with payment of $500.00 CAD in cash,

certified cheque or money or to: Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas, 200 St. Clair Avenue West, Suite 101-W, Toronto,

Ontario, M4V 1R1. Please do not call our office; you will be notified when your file is processed.

Name (printed): ______________________________________________ Date of Birth: ______________________

Address: ___________________________________City: ____________________________ Province: _________

Postal Code: _________________ Ten-Digit Telephone Number: ________________________________________

On the line above specify country of origin of passport, number, place of issue and expiration date.

CONSENT: I understand that there is no physician-patient relationship between Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas and

myself. I authorize my treating healthcare provider(s) including hospitals to release and disclose information about

me including medical, psychiatric/psychological information to Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas. I understand that the

information submitted to Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas will be used to provide representatives of the Government of the

United States of America documentation regarding my medical/mental health status and that I will not be provided

with a copy of the this document. I understand that completion of this process with Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas does

not guarantee my admission into the United States of America. I understand that the final determination regarding

my admissibility into the United States of America will be made by representatives of the Government of the United

States of America and not by Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas. I authorize the re-disclosure and release of information

including medical, psychiatrist/psychological information, in whole or in part, by the recipient to representatives

of the Government of the United States of America with the understanding that I will not be provided with a copy

of any information that has been released, nor will I be provided a copy of my file and that neither Dr. Lyndon

Mascarenhas or my healthcare provider(s) have any control over how information released to representatives of the

Government of the United States of America may be utilized. I further understand that should I wish to obtain a

copy of any information that has been released to representatives of the United States of America, that it must be

requested from the Government of the United States of America and not from Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas. In signing

this consent, I specifically authorize and consent to the exchange and sharing of information between representatives

of the Government of the United States of America and Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas. I understand that I am free to

revoke this consent in writing, except to the extent that Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas has already taken action in relation

I hereby declare that the answers I provide to the above questions are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

I authorize the release of the above information to the representatives of the United States of America and I further

consent to the disclosure and exchange of information between the authorized parties as outlined above. I agree

that the relationship and the resolution of any and all disputes arising there from between myself and Dr. Lyndon

Mascarenhas shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the Province of Ontario and

the laws of Canada applicable therein. I hereby agree that if I commence any legal or other proceedings with

respect to any aspect of the provision, use or disclosure of the information requested by this form or the reporting

by Dr. Lyndon Mascarenhas to the Government of the United States of America and its representatives by Dr.

Lyndon Mascarenhas I will only do so in the Province of Ontario, and I hereby irrevocably submit to the exclusive

jurisdiction of the Courts of the Province of Ontario, situated in the City of Toronto, Ontario.

Signature: _________________________________________ Date: _______________________________

Please answer the questions below on a separate page in typed narrative form. Your answers must be

detailed and complete. You must include reasonable supporting documentation.

1) Please describe the circumstances of your arrest and/or conviction for all alcohol-related offences including

operating a motor vehicle, boat or other device while under the influence of alcohol. You must include

ALL offences regardless of where or when they occurred. Provide available court documents and/or

transcripts.

2) Please describe any incidents associated with harmful or violent behaviour to yourself, others or property

that were or may have been associated with any psychiatric or medical condition and/or the use of alcohol

or other drugs, whether prescribed or non-prescribed. Harmful or violent behaviour includes but is not

limited to suicide attempts, harm to yourself or other people, harm to animals or to property, whether

associated with drugs or alcohol or not. Provide available court documents and/or transcripts if applicable.

3) If you have been admitted to hospital, rehab or other facility for psychiatric or mental disorder including

but not limited to alcohol-related disorders, substance or drug use/abuse, depression, bipolar illness,

schizophrenia, eating disorder, please arrange to have admission, discharge and follow-up notes forwarded

to my office, either directly from the facility or via your treating healthcare provider.

4) Please provide a list of all medications, prescription and non-prescription, that you are currently taking.

5) If you are employed, please provide a statement from your employer indicating what your job is and how

long you have been employed. If you have been employed at your current job for less than two years,

please provide details of all employment for the last ten years, indicating employer, job title and dates

employed.

6) If you are not employed, but are receiving a disability pension or benefits of any type, please provide

documentation outlining when you began receiving the benefit and if the benefit is related to a medical or

psychiatric problem, details of the problems you have which qualified you for the benefit.

7) Please provide at least one typed reference from a professional (not related to you) like a doctor, lawyer,

bank manager, school principal, et cetera which describes your relationship to that person, how long they

have known you, their opinion with regard to you having a problem with alcohol or drug abuse, their

knowledge of you having any history of harmful or violent behaviour as described above.

AUDIT (ALCOHOL USE DISORDERS IDENTIFICATION TEST)

This questionnaire was developed by the World Health Organization to identify persons whose alcohol

consumption has been hazardous or harmful to their health.

FOR EACH QUESTION SELECT YOUR ANSWER AND FILL IN THE SCORE GIVEN IN BRACKETS [ ] IN

THE BOX. (One unit of alcohol is ½ pint average strength beer/lager OR one glass of wine OR one single measure

of spirits. Note: A can of high strength beer or lager may contain 3-4 units.)

1. How often do you have a drink containing alcohol?

[0] Never [1] Monthly or less [2] 2-4 times a month [3] 2-3 times a week [4] 4 or more times a week [__]

2. How many units of alcohol do you drink on a typical day when you are drinking?

[0] 1 or 2 [1] 3 or 4 [2] 5 or 6 [3] 7, 8 or 9 [4] 10 or more [__]

3. How often do you have six or more units of alcohol on one occasion?

[0] Never [1] Less than monthly [2] Monthly [3] Weekly [4] Daily or almost daily [__]

4. How often during the last year have you found that you were not able to stop drinking once you had

started?

[0] Never [1] Less than monthly [2] Monthly [3] Weekly [4] Daily or almost daily [__]

5. How often during the last year have you failed to do what was normally expected from you because of

drinking?

[0] Never [1] Less than monthly [2] Monthly [3] Weekly [4] Daily or almost daily [__]

6. How often during the last year have you needed a first drink in the morning to get yourself going after a

heavy drinking session?

[0] Never [1] Less than monthly [2] Monthly [3] Weekly [4] Daily or almost daily [__]

7. How often during the last year have you had a feeling of guilt or remorse after drinking?

[0] Never [1] Less than monthly [2] Monthly [3] Weekly [4] Daily or almost daily [__]

8. How often during the last year have you been unable to remember what happened the night before

because you had been drinking?

[0] Never [1] Less than monthly [2] Monthly [3] Weekly [4] Daily or almost daily [__]

9. Have you or someone else been injured as a result of your drinking?

[0] No [2] Yes, but not in the last year [4] Yes, during the last year [__]

10. Has a relative or friend or doctor or another health worker been concerned about your drinking or

suggested you cut down?

[0] No [2] Yes, but not in the last year [4] Yes, during the last year [__]

I have treated this patient for _______ years/months. I am a legally qualified physician or clinical psychologist

licensed in the Province of ______________________. I understand that the information I am supplying may in

whole or in part be provided to representatives of the Government of the United States of America. I hereby declare

that the above information is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and based on the information available to

me.

YOUR NAME IN FULL (printed): ________________________________________________________________

YOUR ADDRESS: _____________________________________________________________________________

YOUR TEN-DIGIT PHONE NO.: _____________________YOUR FAX NO.: _____________________________

YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS: _____________________________________________________________________

YOUR SIGNATURE: ____________________________________________M.D/Ph.D. DATE: _______________

PHYSICIAN/HEALTHCARE PRACTITIONER’S QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ALCOHOL-RELATED

You must answer these questions in narrative or point form. Your answers must be specific and detailed.

Please complete the AUDIT questionnaire with your patient. Please sign and have your patient return this

form with your narrative response to each question.

1) Were you aware that your patient has had a conviction and/or arrest for an alcohol-related offence

including but not limited to driving while impaired? If yes, please detail in a narrative report when you

became aware and what if any history you obtained or findings discovered on physical examination or from

investigations including blood work. Did you come to the conclusion that your patient was suffering from

an alcohol-related disorder? If so, what treatment did you recommend? What evidence do you have that

your patient complied with treatment? If you did not conclude that your patient had an alcohol-related

disorder, please explain how you came to this conclusion.

2) If you were not aware that your patient has had a conviction and/or arrest for an alcohol-related offence

including but not limited to driving while impaired, now that you are aware, please detail in your narrative

an opinion as to whether your patient suffers from an alcohol-related disorder. Please include relevant

clinical notes and records to support your opinion including the results of any symptoms that could

be related to an alcohol-related disorder and copies of biochemistry and hematology reports, whether

abnormal or not. In particular, I am interested in CBC, liver function, biological markers for alcohol, drug/

substance screens and other objective results which may suggest a disorder that could be related to alcohol

abuse.

3) Does your patient have a history of any physical or mental/psychiatric disorder that has been, is currently

or which may in the future be associated with harmful or violent behavior to your patient, to others or to

property? If yes, please provide details.

4) If your patient has received treatment in the emergency department, as part of an out-patient or in-patient

admission to hospital or a rehab facility, please provide details as well as copies of admission, discharge

and follow-up summaries.

5) Please list all the medications that your patient is currently taking.

OFFENCES

[Flames9_RN 358]

Yes I believe its just a questionnaire that u fill out--you can google it and you find many similar ones! As you should be aware by now--nothing happens fast at MTL, so one can probbaly expect the waiver process to go in a similar fashion. But maybe you will get lucky! of course it can't start until you hand them the paperwork.

[Anonymous456 1]

Very true.. I appreciate the replies and will keep everyone updated.

I have to fill out one part. A family doctor fills out one part. Then the panel physician fills out the last.

Currently hunting for a new family doctor.

Please, if anyone has and info share it with me. It will be extremely appreciated.

[Flames9_RN 358]

if you do a Search on VJ--such as DUI Canada(play with the wording, leave out canada, etc etc)--there are a few others in a similar situation. Could be worse, could have killed somebody and been in jail for the next few yrs. I couldn't find the guy that went through a similar situation, but that was a few yrs ago now, maybe 4 or so------ so it may not be relevant now anyways

[Anonymous456 1]

Oh, an FYI. The DUI occurred in the US. Not Canada.

I know there's no excuse for a DUI. It's a shameful thing but I wish they'd look at the circumstances. It was in a parking lot and I wasn't even in my car when it happened.

Edited October 25, 2013 by Anonymous456

[Flames9_RN 358]

Montreal is just going to go by the evidence on what they were provided. You plead guilty to the charge, so as you stated earlier, they go by the guidelines..............

[Ms Hogan 295]

I didn't read the entire form from Dr. Masca-whatcha-coosie in Toronto BUT maybe try one of the newer panel physicians, there is one in Vaughan and one in Scarborough. Maybe they will charge less for the same service?

[Anonymous456 1]

I didn't read the entire form from Dr. Masca-whatcha-coosie in Toronto BUT maybe try one of the newer panel physicians, there is one in Vaughan and one in Scarborough. Maybe they will charge less for the same service?

Looking that up..

Does anyone know if I can visit my wife in the US after a 221g?

[johnnyv 20]

If they didn't take your passport, I don't see why not.