Breaking: Shots fired inside D.C. naval facility

[Teddy B 17,251]

Dear God, please let one of them be white.

And have hair!

[GandD 5,966]

Dear God, please let one of them be white.

And bald.

Yeah, that's right, still on this gag.

[mota bhai 2,675]

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Realistically, you can't correct the root cause. That's why the tool is the target.

Well that may indeed be true

However if we spent as much time and effort on cause as we did the tool,we might make some progress

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Agree, but you can't stop the media so what to do.. I have no clue

Making it a gun debate is going to trigger a months long goat rope that will get us no where and accomplish nothing.

we have got to figure out the root cause of this.

The media won't stop because sadly, people eat that stuff up. They love the sensationalism of it all. They have no reason TO stop.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Dear God, please let one of them be white.

If they are all black or minorities, stand by. The usual suspects will be here saying this is why we should be treated this way.

[GandD 5,966]

Well that may indeed be true

However if we spent as much time and effort on cause as we did the tool,we might make some progress

But nothing has changed in regards to the tool. So, I doubt our progress would be any better towards a much more complicated issue.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Well that may indeed be true

However if we spent as much time and effort on cause as we did the tool,we might make some progress

Everyone has a different motive when they do something like this. Sometimes it's because they're thugs, sometimes it's because they're sick, sometimes it's because they have rage issues, etc etc etc. The reasons go on and on and on.

Guns end up being the common factor in these stories, generally, so they get the focus. Whether it's fair or not.

The vast majority don't think "hm, I have a gun, let's go see how many people I can kill."

It's generally "I'm mad/sick/depressed/wanting attention and I want to do a lot of damage. What can I use that'll kill as many people as possible in a short amount of time?"

That's where the gun comes in. They're easy to get, easy to use.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Penny Lane

[GandD 5,966]

BTW, this is by far the most civil discussion on guns we've had in a long time.

[mota bhai 2,675]

BTW, this is by far the most civil discussion on guns we've had in a long time.

It all started with conciliator and his request for emotionally neutral language.

[GandD 5,966]

It all started with conciliator and his request for emotionally neutral language.

That's odd, I don't normally listen to him.......

[mota bhai 2,675]

He got into your head without you even realizing it. That's how good he is at what he does... whatever that is.

[Teddy B 17,251]

BTW, this is by far the most civil discussion on guns we've had in a long time.

Yeah 4 or 5 posts of "We need to do something about this" equates to a civil discussion.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It all started with conciliator and his request for emotionally neutral language.

it's nice to know my hard work is paying off

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yeah 4 or 5 posts of "We need to do something about this" equates to a civil discussion.

He's right though.No well look at the shooters comment as of yet. So it's a civil discussion.