Zimmerman trial: Potential jurors polled on guns, crime

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If you chase down a bear, wouldn't you expect to get mauled?

do you feel the same way about a woman dressing sexy getting drunk at a party & getting raped? i sure hope not.

Edited June 21, 2013 by SMOKE

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

do you feel the same way about a woman dressing sexy getting drunk at a party & getting raped? i sure hope not.

No. Not the same thing. Why would you compare Zimmernan to a rapist?.

Edited June 21, 2013 by The Patriot

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No. Not the same thing. What an F'd up comparison to make.

what you don't like your 'he asked for it' comment now? yes, you're f'd up and so is everyone that says 'he asked for it'

Edited June 21, 2013 by SMOKE

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

what you don't like your 'he asked for it' comment now? yes, you're f'd up and so is everyone that says 'he asked for it'

Tell me how a rapist attacking a defenseless woman is the same as an armed wannabe cop chasing down a suspected felon.

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Tell me how a rapist attacking a defenseless woman is the same as an armed wannabe cop chasing down a suspected felon.

you have a f'd up pov that the victim asked to be attacked & now you don't want to own it. not suprised

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what you don't like your 'he asked for it' comment now? yes, you're f'd up and so is everyone that says 'he asked for it'

Tell me how a rapist attacking a defenseless woman is the same as an armed wannabe cop chasing down a suspected felon.

TM was not a suspected felon. He was just another citizen walking around, unarmed in his own neighborhood. GZ was in no position to determine anyone to be a 'suspected felon'. All he had to go by was his own prejudice and unmitigated unawareness.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

you have a f'd up pov that the victim asked to be attacked & now you don't want to own it. not suprised

How did Trayvon ask to be attacked? Maybe it was the way his tender young body enticed the older man.

[DaveE 178]

If you chase down a bear, wouldn't you expect to get mauled?

No - in Florida you can kill him, An SYG case that occured after GZ and TM.

"Back in January, Garcia, 25, saw Pedro Roteta, 26, trying to steal the radio from his truck, which was parked outside Garcia's Miami apartment. Garcia grabbed a large knife, ran downstairs and chased Roteta for at least a block. The incident was caught on tape and showed that Garcia stabbed Roteta to death. At the time Roteta was carrying a bag with stolen radios "but no weapon other than a pocketknife, which was unopened in his pocket and which police said he never brandished."

The Herald reports that a judge threw out the charges against Garcia, citing the state's "stand your ground" law. As we reported earlier this week, the law did away with "the English Law concept of 'duty to retreat' from a situation that is dangerous outside your home." The Florida Supreme Court also decided that it should be a judge, not a jury, who decides whether to grant a suspect immunity based on the law."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/22/149153379/stand-your-ground-miami-judge-decides-fatal-stabbing-was-self-defense

AND - SYG may be invoked during the trial. Zimmermans attorney's decided not invoke it pretrial. His attorneys stipulated that they may still use it. "Shawn Vincent, a spokesman for the Zimmerman defense team, emphasized that the lawyers have not waived Zimmerman's right to seek immunity, and might invoke Stand Your Ground during his trial, which is scheduled to begin June 10th." http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/05/3268716/zimmerman-defense-no-need-for.html

Should be an interesting trial.

PS for those who were asking, there were seven black potential jurors out of the 40. At the end of jury selection, the defense still had six preemptory challenges left that they decided not to use, so they must be pretty happy with the jury.

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TM was not a suspected felon.

Zimmerman certainly did, and reported him to the police as such.

He was just another citizen walking around, unarmed in his own neighborhood. GZ was in no position to determine anyone to be a 'suspected felon'. All he had to go by was his own prejudice and unmitigated unawareness.

Exactly. That is why Zimmerman should never have gotten out of the car, or left the security of a well lit area.

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How did Trayvon ask to be attacked? Maybe it was the way his tender young body enticed the older man.

why do you think he was attacked? he was on top of zimmerman beating him. if TM was confronted by GZ, don't you think GZ would have had his weapon drawn. 'tender young body' ?? you are revealing to much about yourself today bill.

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Seven? I wonder why not one of them made it to the jury.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

No - in Florida you can kill him, An SYG case that occured after GZ and TM.

"Back in January, Garcia, 25, saw Pedro Roteta, 26, trying to steal the radio from his truck, which was parked outside Garcia's Miami apartment. Garcia grabbed a large knife, ran downstairs and chased Roteta for at least a block. The incident was caught on tape and showed that Garcia stabbed Roteta to death. At the time Roteta was carrying a bag with stolen radios "but no weapon other than a pocketknife, which was unopened in his pocket and which police said he never brandished."

The Herald reports that a judge threw out the charges against Garcia, citing the state's "stand your ground" law. As we reported earlier this week, the law did away with "the English Law concept of 'duty to retreat' from a situation that is dangerous outside your home." The Florida Supreme Court also decided that it should be a judge, not a jury, who decides whether to grant a suspect immunity based on the law."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/22/149153379/stand-your-ground-miami-judge-decides-fatal-stabbing-was-self-defense

AND - SYG may be invoked during the trial. Zimmermans attorney's decided not invoke it pretrial. His attorneys stipulated that they may still use it. "Shawn Vincent, a spokesman for the Zimmerman defense team, emphasized that the lawyers have not waived Zimmerman's right to seek immunity, and might invoke Stand Your Ground during his trial, which is scheduled to begin June 10th." http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/05/3268716/zimmerman-defense-no-need-for.html

Should be an interesting trial.

PS for those who were asking, there were seven black potential jurors out of the 40. At the end of jury selection, the defense still had six preemptory challenges left that they decided not to use, so they must be pretty happy with the jury.

What crime did Zimmerman observe Martin committing that night? Your analogy fails.

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why do you think he was attacked? he was on top of zimmerman beating him. if TM was confronted by GZ, don't you think GZ would have had his weapon drawn. 'tender young body' ?? you are revealing to much about yourself today bill.

Maybe it was the fact he spent 4 minutes chasing him, maybe it was his description of TM on the phone as they always get away, maybe it was the fact he got out of his car and started following him after being told not to.

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Maybe it was the fact he spent 4 minutes chasing him, maybe it was his description of TM on the phone as they always get away, maybe it was the fact he got out of his car and started following him after being told not to.

none of that shows GZ being the aggressor in the fight. try again

[DaveE 178]

What crime did Zimmerman observe Martin committing that night? Your analogy fails.

Actually, your knowledge of Florida law fails. Do you need me to post one of your previous assertions that GZ had a duty to retreat?

I posted an article that showed you have no duty to retreat in Florida.