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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: South Africa
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Hello,

This is my first time posting in this forum. A friend of mine (US citizen) married a South African national recently. She has come to the US a few times using a multiple entry B2 visa. He has been looking into possible ways to bring her here. Based on what I read here, I assumed his best path was to file for an IR-1/CR-1 as soon as possible.

His wife is planning to visit him in a month's time. He feels that it is a better strategy to file for the I-130 and AOS concurrently after she gets here. He is not clear on the rules of visa fraud though. Looking through the posts here, I have been getting mixed views. Some say it is routinely done and should not be a problem as long as it is a bonafide marriage. Others say that the foreign spouse would have established immigration intent by marrying the US citizen, so the AOS is out of question.

Can someone explain this to me? Is my friend correct in trying to file for the I-130 and AOS concurrently?

Thanks.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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He is planning this before she comes here, thus it would be visa fraud (using a visitors visa with intent to immigrate).

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Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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He should talk to a Lawyer, not an issue that can be addressed on this forum.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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I'm pretty sure their only course of action is to file the I-130 while the non-USC remains abroad. This is the guide for that: http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

As they are already married, coming on a tourist visa with intent to file and then adjust status would be fraud and would not work.

What sometimes happens is people arrive *unmarried* on a tourist visa and have a marriage in the USA, file the I-130 and AOS and it works (so long as they can prove it was spontaneous and they did so without the non-USC having intent to marry and stay), but as they are already married that door is closed to them.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Many people who are married enter as a Visitor and have adjusted.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted

Many people who are married enter as a Visitor and have adjusted.

How do they disprove intent?

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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How do they disprove intent?

No need.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: South Africa
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Posted

Thanks for all the replies.

How do they disprove intent?

This is a question I have as well. One of the replies was that this was a clear indication of visa fraud. Then another reply says that many have adjusted their statuses this way.

I understand there is no right answer. But I am curious.

Posted

No need.

Well, I'm glad we had this informative chat.

Good luck, OP!

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Filed: Timeline
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He is planning this before she comes here, thus it would be visa fraud (using a visitors visa with intent to immigrate).

It doesn't matter what he plans. It's what she plans that matters.

Others say that the foreign spouse would have established immigration intent by marrying the US citizen, so the AOS is out of question.

Not true. Marrying a U.S. citizen is independent of intent to immigrate.

How do they disprove intent?

For example, if they have evidence of strong ties to the home country, return tickets, etc; and then they also have evidence of something unexpected that changed their mind while here, e.g. found out spouse is pregnant.

 
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