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Posted

Hi, everyone

I have been very absent from this forum recently as life has been hectic so I am sorry for just flitting in and out.

I apologise in advance for the long-winded question. I find it difficult to be succinct while also providing all the necessary information. Sorry.

Just to explain our situation in brief, my husband is the USC but has been resident in the UK since he was 16. We have been married for 17 years and have four kids together (none of whom are entitled to be USCs - believe me, we've checked). Our I130s were approved in November so we have been treading water for a good few months now. The kids and I have now had all of our required vaccinations and my police certificate came a couple of weeks ago. My husband is putting together his evidence of intent to establish domicile in the US. He is also, however, still pursuing a job though he has gotten really quite far in the process with one particular company which has given us renewed hope that we might actually just make this immigration plan work. If he does get this particular job then things will likely move really quickly as far as his relocation is concerned. On the other hand, if this employment prospect fails, it could take a very long time to get this far in the recruitment process again so it could be a long time before we are in a position to move to the US or we may even have to abandon the plan.

So obviously the next stage in the process is to book the medicals for the four kids and I. Obviously there is a lot of expense involved in going through medicals for one adult and four kids - we would have travel and accommodation costs on top of the medical costs - and also a lot of hassle since we live in the Scottish Highlands so we would lose quite a couple of days of work and school to travel up and down.

I am, therefore, trying to figure out when it is best to book the medicals given all of this context. On the one hand, we don't want to be too premature and lose all of that money when we are not in a position to move to the US (the scenario if my husband does not get this particular job) but on the other hand we don't want to leave it so late that the kids and I are left behind in the UK for ages waiting on the medical and visa process being finalised while my husband moves to the US (the scenario if he does get this job) not even so much for emotional and relationship reasons but because of economic and practical reasons (we have been hoping to only be apart for about 4 months max).

So what is the timescale involved for booking medicals in London? If I contacted Knightsbridge now, would I have to take an appointment that is fairly soon or can I book in advance for appointments a month or so from now?

Thanks in advance for any and all responses.

Best wishes

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

I personally wouldn't schedule a medical until you know the visa is what you want. If you called Knightsbridge tomorrow, you could get in next week. There isn't a long wait. Stall your application form a month or two if needed. Don't send the readiness for interview or book the medical until you are positive all systems are GO. Then Bam! Put it all in motion.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

I agree with Nich-Nick.

Sorry for the OT, but why aren't your kids entitled to be USC? They were born abroad.

IR1/CR1 Visa - DCF at London Embassy

April 16, 2013: Mailed out I-130

April 18, 2013: Date Petition filed
May 13, 2013: APPROVED!
May 22, 2013: Case Number received
June 3, 2013: Mailed out DS-230 & DS-2001
June 4, 2013: Medical Exam at Bentick Mansion
Unfortunately I have to re-do it in 6 + weeks as I was diagnosed with pneumonia
June 22, 2013 I traveled to the USA with the plan of returning to the UK, spoke to a Immigration lawyer and he told me to change my status and go the AOS route.
Since 2014 I am a permanent resident.

Posted

Sorry for the OT, but why aren't your kids entitled to be USC? They were born abroad.

This requirement:

The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent had been physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least five years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth,
of which at least two years were after his or her 14th birthday

If I remember correctly, the USC Dad was mostly raised in the UK and doesn't meet the residency requirement to pass on citizenship.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

Oh okay. Thanks for explaining :)

IR1/CR1 Visa - DCF at London Embassy

April 16, 2013: Mailed out I-130

April 18, 2013: Date Petition filed
May 13, 2013: APPROVED!
May 22, 2013: Case Number received
June 3, 2013: Mailed out DS-230 & DS-2001
June 4, 2013: Medical Exam at Bentick Mansion
Unfortunately I have to re-do it in 6 + weeks as I was diagnosed with pneumonia
June 22, 2013 I traveled to the USA with the plan of returning to the UK, spoke to a Immigration lawyer and he told me to change my status and go the AOS route.
Since 2014 I am a permanent resident.

Posted

IR-1 Visas issued in the UK are valid for 6 months from the date of the medical (NOT from the date of visa issue), so factor that in to your calculations as well.

In your case there is little point in doing the medical before it is really needed or you know what you are doing, and then either having a very short visa validity, or worse still having the visa expire..

I got my medical booked on ten days notice when I asked for the earliest available appointment, and you can request a shorter notice cancellation appointment if you like.

I cant see any reason why they wouldn't be happy to book an appointment for several months time either- and that can always be pushed back if not needed or if plans are still up in the air.

An approved I-130 is valid for one year IIRC, so you still have plenty of time.

Just have absolutely everything filled in, checked and ready to go, so when the time is right book the medical, and send the DS-2001/DS-230 right away, and hopefully minimise any delays or time apart - I say hopefully, as the interview date and how long it takes them to assign it is unfortunately the part you have the least control over.

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted

Thank you for all your replies. I really appreciate it.

That is good to know that there is not a long waiting list with the Knightsbridge Doctors which means I can safely put off booking them until such time as we know all systems are go. Phew!

Yes, Nich-Nick is quite correct about the status of my children when it comes to citizenship. As my husband was not resident in the for enough time after his 14th birthday (annoyingly he misses it by just a few months) he cannot transfer his USC status to our children. Believe me, we have researched this and tried to find a way around it but they are pretty strict about it (understandably) so will not ignore the few months he is short.

@Nich-Nick - You have an amazing memory being able to remember all the details of various VJer's circumstances. I'm impressed.

Thanks again for reassuring me about the medicals. I just never feel confident in assuming anything with this process so hope no one minds me asking what are probably quite silly questions just to double-check. I definitely appreciate it.

Best wishes

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

Something not immediately relevant but worth keeping in mind for the future is that your children, assuming they are under 18 on the day they enter the US, will become US citizens immediately on entry under the Child Citizenship Act (2000).

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AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

Posted

Something not immediately relevant but worth keeping in mind for the future is that your children, assuming they are under 18 on the day they enter the US, will become US citizens immediately on entry under the Child Citizenship Act (2000).

Really, Hypnos. I was not aware of that so thank you for bringing it to my attention. My oldest has just turned 10 so certainly they are all of the qualifying age.

Thanks

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted (edited)

http://travel.state....pes_1312.html#2 shows the necessary requirements, and once all four are met (in any order) they automatically become US citizens.

You don't even need to apply for (an expensive) certificate of citizenship, you can just jump right to a US passport.

Hopefully you'll be able to make use of this.

Edited by Hypnos

Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

Posted

http://travel.state....pes_1312.html#2 shows the necessary requirements, and once all four are met (in any order) they automatically become US citizens.

You don't even need to apply for (an expensive) certificate of citizenship, you can just jump right to a US passport.

Hopefully you'll be able to make use of this.

Thank you for that information and for the link. When we investigated the whole citizenship thing before, nobody we spoke to ever suggested that there would be this route for the kids. I guess that led me to assume (daft, I know) that they would be just LPRs like me. You have saved me trying to track the relevant fact page myself so I really appreciate your input.

Many thanks!

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

 
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