Engage Marry or end relationship?

[Juliet and Steve 93]

You wrote: "Get him in trouble I mean with irs....He would like to save some money and then notify irs and pay them back. It really wasn't anything shady he just foolishly was too trusting of his friend. Agreed to allow his friend to borrow some of it but have it all back and sent in when need be but he didn't.He has tried to get it back off him but to no avail...."

I don't think he can get "more in trouble" if he writes and asks what to do to get back in the graces of the IRS. To not do so, if he is in deep water, eventually they'll find him and when they do they won't be thinking kindly if they had to catch him.

You say he's tried to get it back off him... Well, there is no, contrary to ads that one hears, really any way of reducing the amount owed short of if one is truly facing bankruptcy and at his age that is now totally impossible. If he comes clean with them and he's making a stipend of $125/week they might demand $5 a week. If he pays that reliably, I think they'll accept that. End of trouble except that interest accrues. If he's in trouble now it's likely that interest and penalties are accruing.

The reality is: If he's in trouble with the IRS, he, by definition, cannot promise to support you for some years if you come to the US. The cart must come before the horse and it seems that he's the one that needs to make some sincere decisions. It may be that he prefers a religious/social/community/spiritual life but USCIS "prefers" that he makes a minimum amount of income (or finds a co-sponsor).

What's his take on all this?

[AnotherLostSoul 167]

Engage Marry or end relationship?

I vote for ending the relationship at the moment.

Give it about a 2 to 3 year break.

Then, if he wants you in the USA, he'll show you a portfolio that will support :

1. the prior years income amounts and

2. current year income and

3. a ton of assets

as this stuff is important for immigrating into the USA.

It smells to me, like he was successful once, and has dropped out of that realm to pursue some other interest. IMO, you need to let him finish his pursuit, get it out of his system. If it's indeed, true love, then taking a break whilst he's remaking himself is a grand thing, and it's actually quite empowering (to him) for you to 'allow' him the time to do this.

That's my 2 cents, aye? With it, and half a roll of toilet paper, we can clean the world, together.

"With it, and half a roll of toilet paper, we can clean the world, together. " LOL That's a good one, Darnell.

[AnotherLostSoul 167]

Please don't take this as an insult, but if he really loved you, he would fight hard to work and get income and be able to help you with immigration. Or, he would do everything he could to work in Europe and live with you there. Seems to me that his activities are far more important to him than you. I know I sound really harsh, and I apologize, but maybe it's just my ignorance, but I don't know why you decided to stick with him for 6 years? By now, you could have found some who is stable, and would put their hand in the fire for you....whether they were USC or Irish like you...anyway, good luck! And again, no harm intended!!!

[Waiting234 18]

A K-1 visa also costs significantly more than an IR-1/CR-1 visa, maybe something to think about as the benefits of marrying in Ireland may outway the benefits of K-1 fiancee... Also, you may be able to try Direct Filing if the US citizen lives with you in Ireland for a few months, check to see if Ireland accepts direct filing. It is faster than each the K-1 and CR-1 visas and you get the same benefits as the IR-1/CR-1. You still need a sponsor, I think.

I wish you luck. Also, some people replying to you are confused. You titled it enage/marry/end relationship because those are your three options, not that you would want to consider ending the relationship... Good luck!

The guides on this site are excellent about teaching you how to file each type!

Edited April 5, 2013 by Waiting234

[Maxheadspace 50]

Would a k visa work if he doesn't have job or enough money to "support us"?

I am a qualified yoga teacher, beauty therapist and holistic practitioner so I could get work out there or even set up a practice.

How much money would I have to have in my bank account to support myself for k visa or marriage?

One of the main aspects of review in the visa process is your ability to sustain yourself in the US, i.e., that you don't become a welfare burden on US society. You have a tough sell, with neither of you having current income. As for the tax issue, if your BF goes to prison for tax evasion, you'll be meeting him in conugal visits! Just kidding! Rarely does anyone go to prison for tax evasion nowadays. But you really do have an uphill climb with showing your ability to support yourself. Have your boyfriend get a decent paying job to show he can support. The tax issue will resolve itself in the background and likely will have no impact on the visa. Good luck!

[del-2-5-2014 1,340]

Just a cautionary word of advice.

Despite a strong and comfortable I-864, the CO in Nigeria took issue with the fact that I was involved in an offer of compromise with the IRS (damn divorce still finds a way to kick my butt at any opportunity).

These are government agencies and they do share records.

I doubt Mr. Man can successfully (key word) petition you until he either has satisfied his tax issue with the IRS in full or they have an understanding/agreement in writing where monies are remitted to them on a consistent basis.

Good luck but I agree with Herr Dokter Darnell, Mr. Man is not in a position yet to petition for you but I still wish you folks the best.

[indiana_sweetie 120]

I doubt Mr. Man can successfully (key word) petition you until he either has satisfied his tax issue with the IRS in full or they have an understanding/agreement in writing where monies are remitted to them on a consistent basis.

I agree. When tax money is owed to the IRS they WILL get it back. My first hubby and I had a business years ago. We weren't making enough to buy food, pay the heat AND the taxes. So... you guessed it, we were eating and staying warm, and slipping on the taxes. We finally went belly up on the business. Hubby got a job and the IRS garnished his wages to the point that I took a job because the IRS did not leave us enough money to live on. I don't know if the IRS is still that merciless. Best of luck to you, I hope it all gets sorted out.

Edited because I can't spell this time of night

Edited April 5, 2013 by indiana_sweetie

[Jawaree 719]

Hello OP ... asking this question I'd ask my sister ....no disrespect, but have you ever asked him

if he is in love but not into taking on real responsibilities? I mean I understand his volunteering

but could he not marry you now, stay in the US and work while he files for you.& still volunteer

or wont he make sacrifices...............I know your heart is saying yea but you mind telling you NO

[Gosia & Tito 199]

You can totally file for the K1, and you should read the guide about doing so:

http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide

Sounds like your main concern is support - yes, he would ordinarily be supporting you and have to prove as such, but since he cannot, he will have to find someone to co-sponsor you - maybe a family member? See the information on "affidavit of support". You won't be able to be the person providing the support, unless you're a secret millionaire.

His status with the IRS probably isn't an issue and won't "get him in trouble". That sounds like a totally separate issue that you probably want to work out a way to deal with, so you don't have that stress in your marriage. So long as you can meet the criteria for K1, you can go with that.

Also, your title for your forum post "Engage Marry or end relationship?" is a little harsh. I don't think you really want us to tell you to break up with him just because he has no money. No one here could possibly decide that for you. You may do any of those things, and there are legal and achievable ways to engage and/or marry him.

A friend can also be a sponsor, only requirement is that he/she is a LPR or citizen and has enough income for the required support (which depends on household size).

[Gosia & Tito 199]

I agree. When tax money is owed to the IRS they WILL get it back. My first hubby and I had a business years ago. We weren't making enough to buy food, pay the heat AND the taxes. So... you guessed it, we were eating and staying warm, and slipping on the taxes. We finally went belly up on the business. Hubby got a job and the IRS garnished his wages to the point that I took a job because the IRS did not leave us enough money to live on. I don't know if the IRS is still that merciless. Best of luck to you, I hope it all gets sorted out.

Edited because I can't spell this time of night

IRS always always wins, but depending on the amount owed, it is not uncommon to come up with a deal with IRS in which you would only be obligated to a % of the debt even on a 'payment plan'. Also, note that in case OP marries, she is not liable for that debt (as it occurred before marriage).

Of course, IRS breathing down your neck is not conducive to a stress free marriage.