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Hi Guys,

I have sort of a niche question to ask anyone that traveled a lot to canada doing the immigration process.

I've been going back and forth for 3+ years so I have accumulated quite a bit of stuff up here that all came from the US.

I was thinking, it would be easier on us for the move, if, when I go back to the states in march, I start bringing back some of my stuff.

I have LOTS of clothes and art supplies up here, for instance.

Was just curious if anyone else did something like this and had issues.

I guess I'm just worried the CBP officers won't believe that all this ####### came from the US, but i've been accumulating for so long! lol

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Hi Guys,

I have sort of a niche question to ask anyone that traveled a lot to canada doing the immigration process.

I've been going back and forth for 3+ years so I have accumulated quite a bit of stuff up here that all came from the US.

I was thinking, it would be easier on us for the move, if, when I go back to the states in march, I start bringing back some of my stuff.

I have LOTS of clothes and art supplies up here, for instance.

Was just curious if anyone else did something like this and had issues.

I guess I'm just worried the CBP officers won't believe that all this ####### came from the US, but i've been accumulating for so long! lol

I would take lots of stuff back with me every time I visited. When hubby would come down here he'd stuff a huge suit case with things he knew he wouldn't need until after the move. We did it for over two years and never had an issue. With that being said, be prepared to explain why you have so much stuff, especially if you were only there for a short amount of time. If you have proof you bought the items in the U.S. like receipts, bank statements or credit card statements make copies and have them with you. Even though passing back and forth from the U.S. to Canada is pretty easy for us, there are times when you need to be prepared!

USCIS- 260 Days

6/8/11~ Mailed I-130 Application, withdrew Canadian PR application
6/16/11~ NOA1 email and text message Case routed to CSC (Priority Date)
7/12/11~ The 'Money Order' Incident/Returned to Tennessee
8/03/11~ TOUCHED!
3/2/12~ APPROVED! NOA2!

NVC Electronic Processing- Montreal- 19 Days

3/21/12~ Received case number & IIN 20 Days after NOA2
3/21/12~ Sent in opt-in email
3/22/12~ Opt-in accepted
3/23/12~ DS-261 Submitted, never accepted
3/29/12~ AOS bill invoiced and paid
3/30/12~ AOS shows PAID- AOS Package emailed/received, DS-3032 emailed/accepted
4/2/12~ IV bill invoiced and paid
4/3/12~ AOS Checklist documents emailed(first time)
4/4/12~ IV shows PAID- DS-260 submitted/ IV Package emailed/received
4/4/12~ AOS Checklist documents sent again for CYA (second time)
4/5/12~ IV package accepted! No Checklists!
4/6/12~ AOS Checklist emailed(third time)
4/9/12~ AOS packet accepted (finally)
CASE COMPLETE!!

Interview 354 days from NOA1/ 362 days from initial filing date
5/29/12~ Medical@ Medisys, Montreal
6/4/12~ Interview APPROVED!!!
08/07/2012~ POE Emerson, MB/Pembina, ND by land
08/09/2012~ HOME!! 424 days from initial filing date!
08/14/2012~ SSN Received
09/10/2012~ Received Green Card

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I would take lots of stuff back with me every time I visited. When hubby would come down here he'd stuff a huge suit case with things he knew he wouldn't need until after the move. We did it for over two years and never had an issue. With that being said, be prepared to explain why you have so much stuff, especially if you were only there for a short amount of time. If you have proof you bought the items in the U.S. like receipts, bank statements or credit card statements make copies and have them with you. Even though passing back and forth from the U.S. to Canada is pretty easy for us, there are times when you need to be prepared!

Oh hell no, no receipts.

Many of these clothes have got to be 5-10 years old lmao.

But I will have been here for (3) months when I cross again.

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Since you're the US citizen and you're moving back home, I don't see why it would be a problem at all?

Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

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Since you're the US citizen and you're moving back home, I don't see why it would be a problem at all?

Because she is only a tourist in Canada and as a USA citizen one can only bring back so much value of goods at a time. Probably have no problems doping it, but probably depends on your POE officer, might find one with some common sense

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Since you're the US citizen and you're moving back home, I don't see why it would be a problem at all?

I'm not moving back home.

I live at home.

This is just stuff that I've accumulated over 3 years up here traveling back and forth.

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Being gone for three months, one would think a POE officer would have some sense and figure you have a bunch of stuff. Especially when you have to tell the whole story about visiting back and forth for years.

Most of the time I drove across the border and never had any issues. A few times my suit case was over 50lbs, I paid my over weight fee with the airline, never had any problems.

I've heard horror stories from some people crossing the border. It always made me nervous! Hubby had a theory that we crossed so much that they could see our history and figured we weren't hiding anything. Our absolute worse border crossing was the one he was activating his Visa.

USCIS- 260 Days

6/8/11~ Mailed I-130 Application, withdrew Canadian PR application
6/16/11~ NOA1 email and text message Case routed to CSC (Priority Date)
7/12/11~ The 'Money Order' Incident/Returned to Tennessee
8/03/11~ TOUCHED!
3/2/12~ APPROVED! NOA2!

NVC Electronic Processing- Montreal- 19 Days

3/21/12~ Received case number & IIN 20 Days after NOA2
3/21/12~ Sent in opt-in email
3/22/12~ Opt-in accepted
3/23/12~ DS-261 Submitted, never accepted
3/29/12~ AOS bill invoiced and paid
3/30/12~ AOS shows PAID- AOS Package emailed/received, DS-3032 emailed/accepted
4/2/12~ IV bill invoiced and paid
4/3/12~ AOS Checklist documents emailed(first time)
4/4/12~ IV shows PAID- DS-260 submitted/ IV Package emailed/received
4/4/12~ AOS Checklist documents sent again for CYA (second time)
4/5/12~ IV package accepted! No Checklists!
4/6/12~ AOS Checklist emailed(third time)
4/9/12~ AOS packet accepted (finally)
CASE COMPLETE!!

Interview 354 days from NOA1/ 362 days from initial filing date
5/29/12~ Medical@ Medisys, Montreal
6/4/12~ Interview APPROVED!!!
08/07/2012~ POE Emerson, MB/Pembina, ND by land
08/09/2012~ HOME!! 424 days from initial filing date!
08/14/2012~ SSN Received
09/10/2012~ Received Green Card

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Being gone for three months, one would think a POE officer would have some sense and figure you have a bunch of stuff. Especially when you have to tell the whole story about visiting back and forth for years.

Most of the time I drove across the border and never had any issues. A few times my suit case was over 50lbs, I paid my over weight fee with the airline, never had any problems.

I've heard horror stories from some people crossing the border. It always made me nervous! Hubby had a theory that we crossed so much that they could see our history and figured we weren't hiding anything. Our absolute worse border crossing was the one he was activating his Visa.

Your husband's theory is indeed correct.

I've been crossing with my husband for 3.5 years now.

I have MANY horror stories with him from his very first crossing.

Lots of tears and denials and wasted gas (live 2 hours from border and had to bring him back home and go back again >=[).

Lots of a-hole officers.

Lots of frustration.

Now, having been back and forth for 3.5 years and never staying more than allowed, we can usually get through secondary in 20-30 minutes because they see our history.

He's pegged for secondary with a red flag, though, and ALWAYS has to go in for a min of 5 years they said.

For me, Canada stopped caring.

During our last cross, they didn't even bother to ask when/if I was leaving.

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I was pulled into secondary twice. The first time I was put in a little room at the Emerson crossing and was drilled. It was like the Spanish Inquisition. I went a few years with out any hassle, then I was dumb enough to tell the Canadian CBP officer I was there to get married to a Canadian Citizen. I was pulled in and asked a few questions, had my passport stamped and a date written in it for when I was to return home, a day after my return flight. After that, no issues what so ever.

When hubby crossed and activated his Visa the officer was really snotty, mean and a-holeish. He asked more questions than the CO did for our interview. Luckily he wasn't the one processing the paperwork. Paperwork guy was awesome.

USCIS- 260 Days

6/8/11~ Mailed I-130 Application, withdrew Canadian PR application
6/16/11~ NOA1 email and text message Case routed to CSC (Priority Date)
7/12/11~ The 'Money Order' Incident/Returned to Tennessee
8/03/11~ TOUCHED!
3/2/12~ APPROVED! NOA2!

NVC Electronic Processing- Montreal- 19 Days

3/21/12~ Received case number & IIN 20 Days after NOA2
3/21/12~ Sent in opt-in email
3/22/12~ Opt-in accepted
3/23/12~ DS-261 Submitted, never accepted
3/29/12~ AOS bill invoiced and paid
3/30/12~ AOS shows PAID- AOS Package emailed/received, DS-3032 emailed/accepted
4/2/12~ IV bill invoiced and paid
4/3/12~ AOS Checklist documents emailed(first time)
4/4/12~ IV shows PAID- DS-260 submitted/ IV Package emailed/received
4/4/12~ AOS Checklist documents sent again for CYA (second time)
4/5/12~ IV package accepted! No Checklists!
4/6/12~ AOS Checklist emailed(third time)
4/9/12~ AOS packet accepted (finally)
CASE COMPLETE!!

Interview 354 days from NOA1/ 362 days from initial filing date
5/29/12~ Medical@ Medisys, Montreal
6/4/12~ Interview APPROVED!!!
08/07/2012~ POE Emerson, MB/Pembina, ND by land
08/09/2012~ HOME!! 424 days from initial filing date!
08/14/2012~ SSN Received
09/10/2012~ Received Green Card

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I was pulled into secondary twice. The first time I was put in a little room at the Emerson crossing and was drilled. It was like the Spanish Inquisition. I went a few years with out any hassle, then I was dumb enough to tell the Canadian CBP officer I was there to get married to a Canadian Citizen. I was pulled in and asked a few questions, had my passport stamped and a date written in it for when I was to return home, a day after my return flight. After that, no issues what so ever.

When hubby crossed and activated his Visa the officer was really snotty, mean and a-holeish. He asked more questions than the CO did for our interview. Luckily he wasn't the one processing the paperwork. Paperwork guy was awesome.

I have only been drilled once at like 630 am after driving all night while going into canada.

I too got a travel pass that had to be turned back in, but found it strange they actually did NOT stamp my passport at that time.

It was a ridiculous reason and the lady was like IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE MOVING HERE YOUR CAR IS SO FULL!

And I was like, no, there's not a lot of stuff, it's just a few BIG things.

I had a christmas tree, a desk chair, and this plastic set of drawers organizer thing.

And then she goes YOU HAVE A FAAAAAAAN! :rofl:

I'm like WHAT?!

I forgot I had a small heater that I was going to return before we left but didn't have time to stop.

I was like THERES FRENCH ALL OVER IT! IT BELONGS HERE!

That was just crazy.

My husband was coming over to the US for the first time in July 2009 and didn't have a job in canada or his own place.

I told border patrol that I told him NOT to get a job because he was staying w/me for 2.5 months.

Not to mention, WHY would I tell them he was coming for 2.5 months if he was going to stay illegally -_-

Obviously I would be smart and be like 'oh yeah he's comin for a week!'

Anyways, he was initially denied, but I cried to the supervisor and then they approved him with a pass.

Since then, he's been denied probably like 4 or 5 times.

Also threatened with deportation from an officer that was clearly on the rag since my husband did nothing.

Crazy CBP OFFICERS!

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Easy to blame the POE officers----but the real people you should be pissed off at are the ones that are breaking the rules, because of them, they screw it for others!!! Their job is not an easy one, but yes some do get carried away

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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I'm not moving back home.

I live at home.

This is just stuff that I've accumulated over 3 years up here traveling back and forth.

Gotcha - in light of some of your experiences above I can see why you're reluctant, I suppose you could leave it until your husband moves down and just apck it all in the UHaul too.

Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

******************

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Gotcha - in light of some of your experiences above I can see why you're reluctant, I suppose you could leave it until your husband moves down and just apck it all in the UHaul too.

No Uhaul.

Just my car, my parent's car, and their trailer, so I don't want to get into the situation where there's not enough room.

Been there, done that, had to leave my couch on the side of the road lmao

I'm still going to take my chances, was just wondering if anyone else had been through the same.

I've already been interrogated on my own side before, so I wouldn't be surprised if they DID decide to do it again.

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Can you mail some stuff back to friends? Family?

I would say most of it can fall under his items and he's allowed to bring all his stuff with him. Your clothing and personal items, I really don't think they'll care about. I have crossed back and forth with my husband many many times over the past 3 years and the officers on the US side are so UNinterested in anything he is bringing because they are always so busy asking ME questions and worrying about what I am bringing.

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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No Uhaul.

Just my car, my parent's car, and their trailer, so I don't want to get into the situation where there's not enough room.

Been there, done that, had to leave my couch on the side of the road lmao

I'm sure he's going to have to purge some things. I spent two months getting rid of a lot of stuff on kijiji and friends before we left. (car, bed, kitchen table, couch etc)

We moved with a Ford Explorer and a 5x8 trailer. We managed to fit all his personal stuff, a 6'x4' Snap-on tool box full of tools, a motorcycle and a Christmas tree. We packed his clothes and other small things into plastic containers that stacked, and the rest kind of went where ever we found space. It worked out well.

When we hit the POE we were hoping and praying they didn't want us to open up the trailer so they could inspect everything or the motorcycle. THAT would have sucked, the bike was under a bunch of stuff, all you could see was part of the back tire lol. They never did. They did the paperwork to import the bike from the compliance letter from Triumph.

USCIS- 260 Days

6/8/11~ Mailed I-130 Application, withdrew Canadian PR application
6/16/11~ NOA1 email and text message Case routed to CSC (Priority Date)
7/12/11~ The 'Money Order' Incident/Returned to Tennessee
8/03/11~ TOUCHED!
3/2/12~ APPROVED! NOA2!

NVC Electronic Processing- Montreal- 19 Days

3/21/12~ Received case number & IIN 20 Days after NOA2
3/21/12~ Sent in opt-in email
3/22/12~ Opt-in accepted
3/23/12~ DS-261 Submitted, never accepted
3/29/12~ AOS bill invoiced and paid
3/30/12~ AOS shows PAID- AOS Package emailed/received, DS-3032 emailed/accepted
4/2/12~ IV bill invoiced and paid
4/3/12~ AOS Checklist documents emailed(first time)
4/4/12~ IV shows PAID- DS-260 submitted/ IV Package emailed/received
4/4/12~ AOS Checklist documents sent again for CYA (second time)
4/5/12~ IV package accepted! No Checklists!
4/6/12~ AOS Checklist emailed(third time)
4/9/12~ AOS packet accepted (finally)
CASE COMPLETE!!

Interview 354 days from NOA1/ 362 days from initial filing date
5/29/12~ Medical@ Medisys, Montreal
6/4/12~ Interview APPROVED!!!
08/07/2012~ POE Emerson, MB/Pembina, ND by land
08/09/2012~ HOME!! 424 days from initial filing date!
08/14/2012~ SSN Received
09/10/2012~ Received Green Card

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