Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
QueenOfBlades

Help please!

17 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Hey all. I'm new here so I wonder if anyone can help me with a few concerns. Firstly, I had depression when I was younger (15, I'm almost 23 now) and had one suicide attempt aged 16 and didn't get treated for it as I was in an abusive relationship and took steps to resolve it myself. I was working a few months later and had no problems. I have one tiny scar on my lower left arm in an inconspicuous place. I had depression for 3 months recently while my parents went through a very messy divorce, took medication etc, and told my GP then that I wouldn't self harm or ever kill myself as there are different ways to cope. I feel fine now, and am off the pills.

We've not submitted the application yet, but before my medical, I intend to get a full letter from my GP stating these things aren't an issue.

My first question is - when they send you the packet 3 and you have to fill out the Part 1 form, there's a question about ' has or has had a mental condition that poses or is likely to pose a threat to the welfare of the alien or others'. Do I select yes or no for that? There is no way it would ever cause a problem to myself or anyone else, but I'm concerned that if I put No, will that be concealing information because I HAD a condition 8 years ago that posed a threat to me at the time?

Also I may have a heart condition called ARVC as my dad has just been diagnosed with it, however I went for an ECG, chest X-Ray and blood test at the hospital and they said everything looked perfectly normal. The only way to even tell would be to get a genetics screening to see if I've inherited the genes that can cause it. Is this likely to cause a problem too?


AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey all. I'm new here so I wonder if anyone can help me with a few concerns. Firstly, I had depression when I was younger (15, I'm almost 23 now) and had one suicide attempt aged 16 and didn't get treated for it as I was in an abusive relationship and took steps to resolve it myself. I was working a few months later and had no problems. I have one tiny scar on my lower left arm in an inconspicuous place. I had depression for 3 months recently while my parents went through a very messy divorce, took medication etc, and told my GP then that I wouldn't self harm or ever kill myself as there are different ways to cope. I feel fine now, and am off the pills.

We've not submitted the application yet, but before my medical, I intend to get a full letter from my GP stating these things aren't an issue.

My first question is - when they send you the packet 3 and you have to fill out the Part 1 form, there's a question about ' has or has had a mental condition that poses or is likely to pose a threat to the welfare of the alien or others'. Do I select yes or no for that? There is no way it would ever cause a problem to myself or anyone else, but I'm concerned that if I put No, will that be concealing information because I HAD a condition 8 years ago that posed a threat to me at the time?

Since you're planning to have your GP write a letter to give to the Knightsbridge doc, it will be noted elsewhere, so best to answer that question honestly. (Since your partner hasn't filed the petition yet, you have a while before you'll have to go to the exam at Knightsbridge, though.) There have been others from the UK who have had similar events in their lives, were open about it, and they were approved for a visa without issue.

Also I may have a heart condition called ARVC as my dad has just been diagnosed with it, however I went for an ECG, chest X-Ray and blood test at the hospital and they said everything looked perfectly normal. The only way to even tell would be to get a genetics screening to see if I've inherited the genes that can cause it. Is this likely to cause a problem too?

Doubtful it will be a problem. My now-husband had a pulmonary embolism (one of our bonding points...), but was given a clean bill of health after being treated. It was noted by his GP, but didn't come up during the Knightsbridge exam beyond asking about any medications he's taking (which was none by then).

Good luck!


Part One: The K-1 Visa Journey:

USCIS Receipt of I-129F: January 24, 2012 | Petition Approval: June 15, 2012 (No RFEs)
Interview: October 24, 2012 - Review | Visa Delivered: October 31, 2012



Part Two: Entry and Adjusting Status:

POE: November 18, 2012 (at SFO) - Review
Wedding: December 1, 2012 | Social Security: New cards received on December 7, 2012.
AOS Package (I-485/I-765/I-131) NOA1: February 19, 2013 | Biometrics Appt.: March 18, 2013
AP/EAD Approved: April 29, 2013 | Card Received: May 6, 2013 | AOS Interview Appt.: May 16, 2013 - Approved Review Card Received: May 24, 2013

Part Three: Removal of Conditions:

Coming Soon...

"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat." – George Carlin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the reply :). And thank you. On the DS-230 I have to say yes or no to "who has or has had a physical or mental disorder that poses or is likely to pose a threat to the safety or welfare of the alien or others". Would I put yes or no to that? It won't ever pose a threat to me or anyone else as I don't have it anymore. I'm just worried if I put No, will it be concealing evidence? I intend to be open and honest at the medical exam.


AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the reply :). And thank you. On the DS-230 I have to say yes or no to "who has or has had a physical or mental disorder that poses or is likely to pose a threat to the safety or welfare of the alien or others". Would I put yes or no to that? It won't ever pose a threat to me or anyone else as I don't have it anymore. I'm just worried if I put No, will it be concealing evidence? I intend to be open and honest at the medical exam.

On the DS-230, you only have to complete Part 1. Do you mean the DS-156 (the form you complete online, but then print out)?


Part One: The K-1 Visa Journey:

USCIS Receipt of I-129F: January 24, 2012 | Petition Approval: June 15, 2012 (No RFEs)
Interview: October 24, 2012 - Review | Visa Delivered: October 31, 2012



Part Two: Entry and Adjusting Status:

POE: November 18, 2012 (at SFO) - Review
Wedding: December 1, 2012 | Social Security: New cards received on December 7, 2012.
AOS Package (I-485/I-765/I-131) NOA1: February 19, 2013 | Biometrics Appt.: March 18, 2013
AP/EAD Approved: April 29, 2013 | Card Received: May 6, 2013 | AOS Interview Appt.: May 16, 2013 - Approved Review Card Received: May 24, 2013

Part Three: Removal of Conditions:

Coming Soon...

"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat." – George Carlin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No it is the DS-230. So I only have to fill out Part I of the 230? When does Part II get filled out? So confusing :( Head spinning with all these forms!


AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No it is the DS-230. So I only have to fill out Part I of the 230? When does Part II get filled out? So confusing :( Head spinning with all these forms!

To confirm, your partner has yet to actually file the I-129F petition, correct? If that's the case, it's way early for you to worry about the visa application forms. The DS forms are not part of the petition package. The forms could be changed/updated by the time it's filed and approved, so it's best to wait to complete them until the petition approval is received.

However, if the petition has been approved, then please read the following links:

Instructions for Immigrant Visa (K) Applicants Applying for a Visa in London

London 2012- K1s from NOA2 to interview thread


Part One: The K-1 Visa Journey:

USCIS Receipt of I-129F: January 24, 2012 | Petition Approval: June 15, 2012 (No RFEs)
Interview: October 24, 2012 - Review | Visa Delivered: October 31, 2012



Part Two: Entry and Adjusting Status:

POE: November 18, 2012 (at SFO) - Review
Wedding: December 1, 2012 | Social Security: New cards received on December 7, 2012.
AOS Package (I-485/I-765/I-131) NOA1: February 19, 2013 | Biometrics Appt.: March 18, 2013
AP/EAD Approved: April 29, 2013 | Card Received: May 6, 2013 | AOS Interview Appt.: May 16, 2013 - Approved Review Card Received: May 24, 2013

Part Three: Removal of Conditions:

Coming Soon...

"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat." – George Carlin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No it is the DS-230. So I only have to fill out Part I of the 230? When does Part II get filled out? So confusing :( Head spinning with all these forms!

A k1 never fills out DS-230 part 2. You have comparable questions on the DS-156

Have you ever been afflicted with a communicable disease of public health significance or a dangerous physical or mental disorder, or ever been a drug abuser or addict?

Yes No

That one is pretty clear in it's wording that your answer needs to be "yes" because you, yourself admit it was dangerous to you. That's kind of subjective really and almost an opinion...how dangerous is dangerous? Even of you think it was not serious/dangerous and answer "no", you will be asked questions at the medical exam.

If you will flip through this document, you'll find the last page is a questionnaire to fill out and take to your medical exam. It contains severl questions you will answer yes. http://photos.state.gov/libraries/unitedkingdom/164203/cons-visa/iv018a_medical.pdf

It's at the exam that you tell your story to the doctor. Present the letter from your doctor telling how long he treated you with medication, what medication, and that he does not consider you a threat to yourself or others or likely to be in the future. That threat phrase is the key. If you satisfy the doctor at the medical exam, then the interviewer will not likely re-hash it. They let the medical people handle the medical parts.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nick - I only used dangerous at the time with reference to the info on the form. After it happened, I regretted it straight away and made myself sick. I don't believe myself to be dangerous, have never had any problems since, work full time in a busy office environment and am a relatively normal 22 year old woman.

I phoned the US Embassy today and he just said he wasn't qualified to make that decision, and to call the US Border Agency. The US Border Agency bloke said he wasn't qualified either and to discuss it with the officer. I said I know, it's not that I need advice for, it's about the DS-156 form. He still pretty much still said discuss it at the interview.

So - I'm assuming I click no then? :S


AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nick - I only used dangerous at the time with reference to the info on the form. After it happened, I regretted it straight away and made myself sick. I don't believe myself to be dangerous, have never had any problems since, work full time in a busy office environment and am a relatively normal 22 year old woman.

I phoned the US Embassy today and he just said he wasn't qualified to make that decision, and to call the US Border Agency. The US Border Agency bloke said he wasn't qualified either and to discuss it with the officer. I said I know, it's not that I need advice for, it's about the DS-156 form. He still pretty much still said discuss it at the interview.

So - I'm assuming I click no then? :S

The question is "have you ever..." to which it would lean more toward answering "yes" than "no." As Nich-Nick noted, the medical questionnaire will also ask specific questions (see questions #8 and #12), so it's best to be honest and consistent. As I noted upthread, there have been others who have self-harmed in the past, interviewed at London, and received a visa.


Part One: The K-1 Visa Journey:

USCIS Receipt of I-129F: January 24, 2012 | Petition Approval: June 15, 2012 (No RFEs)
Interview: October 24, 2012 - Review | Visa Delivered: October 31, 2012



Part Two: Entry and Adjusting Status:

POE: November 18, 2012 (at SFO) - Review
Wedding: December 1, 2012 | Social Security: New cards received on December 7, 2012.
AOS Package (I-485/I-765/I-131) NOA1: February 19, 2013 | Biometrics Appt.: March 18, 2013
AP/EAD Approved: April 29, 2013 | Card Received: May 6, 2013 | AOS Interview Appt.: May 16, 2013 - Approved Review Card Received: May 24, 2013

Part Three: Removal of Conditions:

Coming Soon...

"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat." – George Carlin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nick - I only used dangerous at the time with reference to the info on the form. After it happened, I regretted it straight away and made myself sick. I don't believe myself to be dangerous, have never had any problems since, work full time in a busy office environment and am a relatively normal 22 year old woman.

I phoned the US Embassy today and he just said he wasn't qualified to make that decision, and to call the US Border Agency. The US Border Agency bloke said he wasn't qualified either and to discuss it with the officer. I said I know, it's not that I need advice for, it's about the DS-156 form. He still pretty much still said discuss it at the interview.

So - I'm assuming I click no then? :S

My point was, answer it exactly as you feel is correct. If you think you were not dangerous, then you are answering the questions to the best and truest way you know. You may have a different interpretation that another person. Give your answer and dont take a poll.

You're wasting time making those phone calls. The embassy call is a call center in Scotland and is pretty much useless and is not a consulate official. Satisfy the doctor at Knightsbridge and you're in. Don't call the receptionist at Knightsbridge and expect an answer from her in advance. Bring a good report from your doctor to your medical exam and answer the questions the doctor asks. Wait for him to notice the scar. Don't gush out a huge long story before he asks. Just answer each question he poses truthfully and with calm confidence.

Edited by Nich-Nick

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you both. I guess in some ways, it does come down to a matter of opinion. I don't believe I was or am dangerous. I've never harmed anyone or anything. I honestly don't believe I'm dangerous or a threat to anyone at all. I'm a normal young woman who works full-time who just wants to get married and start a family. So I guess I will put no.

Thank you Nick, that has made me feel better. I was a bit thrown when the guy who answered sounded Irish. I'll bring as much stuff as I can and give it to him when and if he asks for it.


AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You're wasting time making those phone calls. The embassy call is a call center in Scotland and is pretty much useless and is not a consulate official.

I just wanted to reiterate this on a general scale - the phone line really is useless and people are often given bad advice (at quite an expense per minute) when calling it. On another point, again not specific to this case, answer what is directly asked. It's when people try to interpret they get caught out.

Get the letter from the GP (nearer the time, since you're skipping ahead a little right now), be prepared to explain to the Doctor at the medical, and cross your fingers.


There's that smell again...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just wanted to reiterate this on a general scale - the phone line really is useless and people are often given bad advice (at quite an expense per minute) when calling it. On another point, again not specific to this case, answer what is directly asked. It's when people try to interpret they get caught out.

Get the letter from the GP (nearer the time, since you're skipping ahead a little right now), be prepared to explain to the Doctor at the medical, and cross your fingers.

Thanks Berty. Could you elaborate on what you said when you said it's when people try to interpret that they get caught out? I am pretty certain I am going to answer no, but be open and honest on the medical examination form and in the medical exam, getting all the stuff I need together to back myself up if he asks for it.

And yes, the phone line is useless. The guy I spoke to really didn't have a clue. He referred me to the US Border Agency and the American dude at the Border Agency was baffled as to why they'd given me their number and said it wasn't his place to say either. All I can do is ask though. I wanted to see what they said. But I think I'm'll put no down as I really don't believe myself to/have been dangerous.


AOS posted - 02/18/2014

NOA1 - 03/04/2014
Biometrics - 03/28/2014
EAD in post - 5/5/2014

EAD in hand - 5/10/2014
Interview waiver letter received - 6/9/2014

Card production notice - 1/10/2015

ROC mailed - 10/11/2016

ROC received at CSC - 10/18/2016

Interview Notice Received - 3/30/2017

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you both. I guess in some ways, it does come down to a matter of opinion. I don't believe I was or am dangerous. I've never harmed anyone or anything. I honestly don't believe I'm dangerous or a threat to anyone at all. I'm a normal young woman who works full-time who just wants to get married and start a family. So I guess I will put no.

Thank you Nick, that has made me feel better. I was a bit thrown when the guy who answered sounded Irish. I'll bring as much stuff as I can and give it to him when and if he asks for it.

Here's a thread from 3 years ago you will be interested in http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/239711-self-harm-depression/

Your will find some parallels and differences in your own situation, many opinions, much debate, and a happy ending. A major difference is that Angel was still on medication (I think. I didn't re-read the whole thread, but remember it from back then.)

In the end, it's your form and you sign off on:

41. I certify that I have read and understood all the questions set forth in this application and
the answers I have furnished on this form are true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief
. I understand that any false or misleading statement may result in the permanent refusal of a visa or denial of entry into the United States. I understand that possession of a visa does not automatically entitle the bearer to enter the United States of America upon arrival at a port of entry if he or she is found inadmissible.

Edited by Nich-Nick

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Berty. Could you elaborate on what you said when you said it's when people try to interpret that they get caught out? I am pretty certain I am going to answer no, but be open and honest on the medical examination form and in the medical exam, getting all the stuff I need together to back myself up if he asks for it.

It's a little off topic, but all I meant is immigration is a hugely stressful time for most people from start to finish, of course (!), and it overly complicates matters when these people read more into something than is needed and/or over-embellish. Too much detail can be as bad as too little. Regardless of the stage you're at make sure you're precise, clear and to the point in your answers, and don't wander. I've known several people send a colossal amount of paperwork and receive RFEs for the very things they included, I presume because they were buried somewhere under meaningless ####### and missed.

In regards to medicals, it's always better to be open and honest than bend the truth and look like you have something to hide. If you believe the answer to the question is truly 'No' (and none of us are qualified to make that call) then tick that option and back it up firmly with a GP letter (which costs money to do most of the time, incidentally. Don't trip up there). You may still need to be referred afterwards but if you're 100% confident with your state of mind I really wouldn't stress too much. I have Asperger's, incidentally, and so had to act on the question just before yours ('7. Do you have a major impairment in learning, intelligence, self-care, memory or communication?'). I talked to my GP and he wrote out a letter stating I was a danger to nobody, and generally singing my praises. When it came to the medical I stated I was an Aspie (as it were) and handed over the letter. She seemed pleased and we moved on - no more was said and I passed.

And yes, the phone line is useless. The guy I spoke to really didn't have a clue. He referred me to the US Border Agency and the American dude at the Border Agency was baffled as to why they'd given me their number and said it wasn't his place to say either. All I can do is ask though. I wanted to see what they said. But I think I'm'll put no down as I really don't believe myself to/have been dangerous.

Way back in the midsts of time I had to call the extortion line regarding my case, and was told by (I assume) Frank Spencer they suddenly had absolutely none of my documents, which was a little disconcerting to say the least. A day later I'd sorted out my interview date. Go figure. The only thing the line was ever good for was to give out the weekly e-mail code that you had to include in the Subject title should you need to contact the consulate online. I wonder if that still happens.


There's that smell again...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
- Back to Top -


Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×