Age Conflict?????

[GaryKO 49]

Its about time for hip boots here. You are how old? And have been having experience with the embassy for the past 25 years? Really? Just what is your experience with the K-1 visa being denied because of age?

As many have said already in response to your post.... age gap is not an issue.

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It is not the age gap that is the issue, it is the age of the woman that is the issue. If the woman is 18 to 21 things get a little more difficult if the man is 20+ years older. It is harder to prove a bona fide relationship and if you cannot then a K1 visa will be denied.

I am 63 years old Hank, first time I was in the Phills was 1968. After 12 years in the US Navy I worked for a company that did business in the Phills and would go over and stay for 3 months at a time each year for about 10 years. I have many friends there, both Filipino and American. I have induced 8 men here in the US to their Filipino wives and helped with advise and paperwork getting visas for them over the years. I met a Filipina in 1985, fell in love, and she came over on a K1 visa 2 years later, we were married for 16 years. I just married a beautiful Filipina in 2011 and she is with me now. Before you ask she is 22 years old.

I do know of any visas that was denied because of age, I do know of several that were denied because they did not prove a bona fide relationship and the woman was very young and the man was 20+ years older.

My advise to the OP to his question "Do you guys think that their age gap would a red flag of their case?" was Yes it will be. It does not mean the visa will be denied because of age, but they need to supply lots of evidence that the relationship is legitimate because of age. Just the standard of meeting in person in the last 2 years, some pictures together, and some emails may not be enough at the interview. They need to prepare for that with strong documentary evidence, and it would be advisable for him to attend the interview to answer questions.

[Hank_ 9,174]

The standard of meeting within 2 years is for the 129F petition with USCIS, they for sure don't give issue with age gap. As for the bona-fided relationship... everyone for the embassy interview has to jump that hurdle and again I say age gap isn't an issue, providing evidence of a legimate relationship is... and that isn't that difficult at all for those that are in a real relationship.

You have nothing on me for age ...

[GaryKO 49]

The standard of meeting within 2 years is for the 129F petition with USCIS, they for sure don't give issue with age gap. As for the bona-fided relationship... everyone for the embassy interview has to jump that hurdle and again I say age gap isn't an issue, providing evidence of a legimate relationship is... and that isn't that difficult at all for those that are in a real relationship.

You have nothing on me for age ...

The age difference will not be an issue at the USCIS. The USCIS only screens petitions so they meet the bare minimum requirements. The stage that the age difference will become an issue is at the embassy visa interview. The age difference by itself it normally not a problem as long as the petitioner and beneficiary can prove that their relationship is bona fide and not entered into for the purpose of gaining an immigration benefit. To say that the petitioner that is 43 years old and the beneficiary that is 19 years old will not raise red flags and cause the interviewing officer to look more closely at the applicant’s relationship is misinformation. It is very important to document the relationship by keeping track of all contacts. While she is in the Phills and he in the US to be able to show at the interview a continuous communication while in the visa process. Most times when your engaged to marry you buy a engagement ring, and maybe have a engagement party, proof of this is important to show intent to marry.

That is the reason you hear of women having all kind of trouble at the CFO, the age difference and the young age of the beneficiary being the main reasons they get drilled with questions, and asked for other documents. Same thing will happen at the visa interview, some get 3 questions some get asked many questions about the petitioner.

I agree age gap is not a problem in the visa process, we all had to prove a bona-fide relationship just some had to prove it stronger than others. I send a lot of evidence with the visa application when filed, I had much more during the visa process waiting time at the interview that the CO never looked at. My wife was asked 3 questions, but she knew the answer to just about any question the CO could have asked about me. We have a 41 year age gap, she did get drilled at the CFO, but the embassy interview was a piece of cake, because they had all they needed to know in the visa packet.

We were prepared and ready for the interview, and that is what I advised the OP to pass on, start to document the relationship now and get every bit of evidence you can that is proof the relationship is real, right up to the day of the interview.

Right now and the past few years the embassy interview is been pretty easy, that has not always been the case, and that could change overnight. So one should prepare for the interview and be ready if they want approved.

[rlogan 2,036]

I was 30 years older than her, and she was 19 when we applied. She did not have any kind of parental consent. The embassy didn't ask about our age difference.

It was plain as day to the embassy interviewer our relationship was a dirty old man with his young hottie Filipina, and it doesn't get more genuine than that.

[actob99 156]

The age difference will not be an issue at the USCIS. The USCIS only screens petitions so they meet the bare minimum requirements. The stage that the age difference will become an issue is at the embassy visa interview. The age difference by itself it normally not a problem as long as the petitioner and beneficiary can prove that their relationship is bona fide and not entered into for the

purpose of gaining an immigration benefit. To say that the petitioner that is 43 years old and the beneficiary that is 19 years old will not raise red flags and cause the interviewing officer to look more closely at the applicant’s relationship is misinformation. It is very important to document the relationship by keeping track of all contacts. While she is in the Phills and he in the US to be able to show at the

interview a continuous communication while in the visa process. Most times when your engaged to marry you buy a engagement ring, and maybe have a engagement party, proof of this is important to show intent to marry.

That is the reason you hear of women having all kind of trouble at the CFO, the age difference and the young age of the beneficiary being the main reasons they get drilled with questions, and asked for other documents. Same thing will happen at the visa interview, some get 3 questions some get asked many questions about the petitioner.

I agree age gap is not a problem in the visa process, we all had to prove a bona-fide relationship just some had to prove it stronger than others. I send a lot of evidence with the visa application when filed, I had much more during the visa process waiting time at the interview that the CO

never looked at. My wife was asked 3 questions, but she knew the answer to just about any question the CO could have asked about me. We have a 41 year age gap, she did get drilled at the CFO, but the embassy interview was a piece of cake, because they had all they needed to know in the visa packet.

We were prepared and ready for the interview, and that is what I advised the OP to pass on, start to document the relationship now and get every bit of evidence you can that is proof the relationship is real, right up to the day of the interview.

Right now and the past few years the embassy interview is been pretty easy, that has not always been the case, and that could change overnight. So one should prepare for the

interview and be ready if they want approved.

Everything you have said supports that you have to prove that you have a real relationship. Doesn't matter age or not. Be prepared and you have nothing to worry about. I am pretty sure more scrutiny would come with a 6 month relationship, meeting once and both 21 than a 44 year old and 19, meeting several times( maybe even living together) and have been together for a couple of years..

[Hank_ 9,174]

I was 30 years older than her, and she was 19 when we applied. She did not have any kind of parental consent. The embassy didn't ask about our age difference.

It was plain as day to the embassy interviewer our relationship was a dirty old man with his young hottie Filipina, and it doesn't get more genuine than that.

The age difference will not be an issue at the USCIS. The USCIS only screens petitions so they meet the bare minimum requirements. The stage that the age difference will become an issue is at the embassy visa interview. The age difference by itself it normally not a problem as long as the petitioner and beneficiary can prove that their relationship is bona fide and not entered into for the purpose of gaining an immigration benefit. To say that the petitioner that is 43 years old and the beneficiary that is 19 years old will not raise red flags and cause the interviewing officer to look more closely at the applicant's relationship is misinformation. It is very important to document the relationship by keeping track of all contacts. While she is in the Phills and he in the US to be able to show at the interview a continuous communication while in the visa process. Most times when your engaged to marry you buy a engagement ring, and maybe have a engagement party, proof of this is important to show intent to marry.

That is the reason you hear of women having all kind of trouble at the CFO, the age difference and the young age of the beneficiary being the main reasons they get drilled with questions, and asked for other documents. Same thing will happen at the visa interview, some get 3 questions some get asked many questions about the petitioner.

I agree age gap is not a problem in the visa process, we all had to prove a bona-fide relationship just some had to prove it stronger than others. I send a lot of evidence with the visa application when filed, I had much more during the visa process waiting time at the interview that the CO never looked at. My wife was asked 3 questions, but she knew the answer to just about any question the CO could have asked about me. We have a 41 year age gap, she did get drilled at the CFO, but the embassy interview was a piece of cake, because they had all they needed to know in the visa packet.

We were prepared and ready for the interview, and that is what I advised the OP to pass on, start to document the relationship now and get every bit of evidence you can that is proof the relationship is real, right up to the day of the interview.

Right now and the past few years the embassy interview is been pretty easy, that has not always been the case, and that could change overnight. So one should prepare for the interview and be ready if they want approved.

Yup, you are "living proof" that the age gap issue is only in the minds of....... CFO !

[GaryKO 49]

Yup, you are "living proof" that the age gap issue is only in the minds of....... CFO !

Post not about will the age gap cause a visa denial, it's about will the age gap cause a red flag, or course it will so start now and prepare your records to prove the legitimacy of the relationship.

[adiiann 163]

There's NO problem with the age gap.

But there are other things the guy should consider when marrying such a young girl.

IMO, she's way too young to get married. I hope she gets to experience growing up and discovering herself and her potentials as an individual before she commits into the seriousness of marriage. Live life as an independent woman first, unless she has very limited opportunities and may find the guy as the "big fish" and her "ticket" to America.

Just my two cents.

Kinda agree on this one....

Some relationships that were posted here started to ruin or has been ruined when their young wife grew up and learned things here in America. When they were not the same woman that usually just nod to everything.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Post not about will the age gap cause a visa denial, it's about will the age gap cause a red flag, or course it will so start now and prepare your records to prove the legitimacy of the relationship.

Will an age gap cause a red flag?

[rlogan 2,036]

Post not about will the age gap cause a visa denial, it's about will the age gap cause a red flag, or course it will so start now and prepare your records to prove the legitimacy of the relationship.

You have not posted a single example of anyone who was questioned over an age difference. Nor has anyone here who had a big age difference backed you up on your assertion. Those of us who had larger age differences than the OP have contradicted you. This is a topic of innumerable threads on visajourney and it is always the same: people with big age differences demonstrating it doesn't matter vs people with no evidence trying to scare others because that is a petty power trip for them.

That tells us about YOU, not about the fiction you are peddling. It is not constructive to instill fear in people for a bogus reason. You are trying to get them defensive about something they have no reason being defensive about, and that makes people nervous in an interview if they fall for your misinformation. An interviewer picks up on the nervousness that people display, and they're going to think it is something else.

You can play this petty little game with anything, and one of the other classics is all the people who insist the economic difference proves your fiance doesn't really love you - she's just a ####### for money. The racial difference. Educational difference. My fiance and I had every one of those including age and the only people who mentioned it were creepy malicious internet trolls.

Had she gone into that interview listening to people like you she would have been a wreck. Instead she was perfectly composed because she knew the only thing that mattered was whether you had a genuine relationship, and that age, economic difference, race, education, religion, etc. have no bearing upon it.

[Hank_ 9,174]

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[GaryKO 49]

You have not posted a single example of anyone who was questioned over an age difference. Nor has anyone here who had a big age difference backed you up on your assertion. Those of us who had larger age differences than the OP have contradicted you. This is a topic of innumerable threads on visajourney and it is always the same: people with big age differences demonstrating it doesn't matter vs people with no evidence trying to scare others because that is a petty power trip for them.

That tells us about YOU, not about the fiction you are peddling. It is not constructive to instill fear in people for a bogus reason. You are trying to get them defensive about something they have no reason being defensive about, and that makes people nervous in an interview if they fall for your misinformation. An interviewer picks up on the nervousness that people display, and they're going to think it is something else.

You can play this petty little game with anything, and one of the other classics is all the people who insist the economic difference proves your fiance doesn't really love you - she's just a ####### for money. The racial difference. Educational difference. My fiance and I had every one of those including age and the only people who mentioned it were creepy malicious internet trolls.

Had she gone into that interview listening to people like you she would have been a wreck. Instead she was perfectly composed because she knew the only thing that mattered was whether you had a genuine relationship, and that age, economic difference, race, education, religion , etc. have no bearing upon it.

I guess you must have a problem understanding what you read. Some of you are hung up on age difference. I've said over and over that the visa is not going to be denied because of the age gap. Age difference was not the topic of the OP, the question and topic was if the petitioner is 44 and the beneficiary is 19 will that cause a red flag?

I don't know how I can be more clear, you will not be denied a visa because of age!

But the OP needs to know that they need to start right now, before they file a visa, and prepare a strong case to prove a bona fide relationship at the interview, and be able to answer any questions about the petitioner.

I am sure if you search this forum and others you will find visa denial based on failure to establish a bona fide relationship. It happens because they not prepared for what may come at the interview. The advise I give the OP and the correct advise is to prepare a strong solid case, any advise other than that would be ignorant.

[ca_babe 129]

I guess you must have a problem understanding what you read. Some of you are hung up on age difference. I've said over and over that the visa is not going to be denied because of the age gap. Age difference was not the topic of the OP, the question and topic was if the petitioner is 44 and the beneficiary is 19 will that cause a red flag?

I don't know how I can be more clear, you will not be denied a visa because of age!

But the OP needs to know that they need to start right now, before they file a visa, and prepare a strong case to prove a bona fide relationship at the interview, and be able to answer any questions about the petitioner.

I am sure if you search this forum and others you will find visa denial based on failure to establish a bona fide relationship. It happens because they not prepared for what may come at the interview. The advise I give the OP and the correct advise is to prepare a strong solid case, any advise other than that would be ignorant.

I think what most people are saying that regardless of the age difference or whether it's a K-1/CR-1, everyone has to provide proof of bonafide relationship.

[Hank_ 9,174]

I guess you must have a problem understanding what you read. Some of you are hung up on age difference. I've said over and over that the visa is not going to be denied because of the age gap. Age difference was not the topic of the OP, the question and topic was if the petitioner is 44 and the beneficiary is 19 will that cause a red flag?

I don't know how I can be more clear, you will not be denied a visa because of age!

But the OP needs to know that they need to start right now, before they file a visa, and prepare a strong case to prove a bona fide relationship at the interview, and be able to answer any questions about the petitioner.

I am sure if you search this forum and others you will find visa denial based on failure to establish a bona fide relationship. It happens because they not prepared for what may come at the interview. The advise I give the OP and the correct advise is to prepare a strong solid case, any advise other than that would be ignorant.

No one is hung up on the age gap, and most don't think its cause for "red flags" either... except you. And from there you feel it will cause extra scrutiinizing by the CO ... which is what we are are call you on as.... BS. Everyone else is saying gather the normal evidence of their relationship being real and ongoing, the CO will not but them under a microscope just because of the age gap.

Yes most definitely a 44 year old man filing a fiancee visa for a 19 year woman would be a big red flag. The red flag does not mean a visa denial, just that the consular officer probably will scrutinize the legitimacy of the relationship a lot more.

[rlogan 2,036]

The stage that the age difference will become an issue is at the embassy visa interview.

You have REPEATEDLY stated there is an age difference issue, a big red flag. etc. We are not imagining that. We are QUOTING you. So don't tell us we are mistaking what you are saying.

It is not a red flag. It is not something that brings on additional scrutiny. It is not an issue at the Embassy, period. We are not imagining you saying these totally off-base things.

But thanks for the lesson in how someone who is caught saying things so completely wrong then has the gall to say others can't read.