UK pharmacist refuses to give morning after pill 'on religious grounds'

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Unfortunately GUPT has this habit of bashing muslims and posting fake stories

Were you formerly known as "Dood Wala"? In that case, I have a long memory of you (on a parody "not going through Islamabad" thread last year)

[anya-D 8]

This whole thread really makes me angry. I mean, who the hell does some jumped up little ####### behind a counter think he is to be able to tell customers he can't sell a drug or fill a script because it "contradicts his beliefs"?

They are, after all, HIS beliefs, not the customer's. In my eyes, his beliefs are irrelevant. The fact is his job is to dish out the drugs that people request; not preach that it is wrong. If he wants to do that...get another job doing something else. Preferably a street cleaner or something where he can ramble on to passers by as much as he wishes.

If it were up to me, I'd grab every bloody pill on his counter and ram it up his nostrils.

Because in some cases, the pharmacist is the one who owns the pharmacy and decides, like any other shopkeeper, what products to stock and sell.

Then is he owns the shop and believes it evil to sell morning after pill, why should he have it in stock anyway? to mock other people when they come and ask for it? " oh we have it but we wont give it to you"

[pedroh 21]

This whole thread really makes me angry. I mean, who the hell does some jumped up little ####### behind a counter think he is to be able to tell customers he can't sell a drug or fill a script because it "contradicts his beliefs"?

They are, after all, HIS beliefs, not the customer's. In my eyes, his beliefs are irrelevant. The fact is his job is to dish out the drugs that people request; not preach that it is wrong. If he wants to do that...get another job doing something else. Preferably a street cleaner or something where he can ramble on to passers by as much as he wishes.

If it were up to me, I'd grab every bloody pill on his counter and ram it up his nostrils.

Because in some cases, the pharmacist is the one who owns the pharmacy and decides, like any other shopkeeper, what products to stock and sell.

Then is he owns the shop and believes it evil to sell morning after pill, why should he have it in stock anyway? to mock other people when they come and ask for it? " oh we have it but we wont give it to you"

WTFPWNED

[Marc and Olga 0]

This whole thread really makes me angry. I mean, who the hell does some jumped up little ####### behind a counter think he is to be able to tell customers he can't sell a drug or fill a script because it "contradicts his beliefs"?

They are, after all, HIS beliefs, not the customer's. In my eyes, his beliefs are irrelevant. The fact is his job is to dish out the drugs that people request; not preach that it is wrong. If he wants to do that...get another job doing something else. Preferably a street cleaner or something where he can ramble on to passers by as much as he wishes.

If it were up to me, I'd grab every bloody pill on his counter and ram it up his nostrils.

Because in some cases, the pharmacist is the one who owns the pharmacy and decides, like any other shopkeeper, what products to stock and sell.

Then is he owns the shop and believes it evil to sell morning after pill, why should he have it in stock anyway? to mock other people when they come and ask for it? " oh we have it but we wont give it to you"

The story said the regular pharmacist was away.

A member of staff at the pharmacy said: "The regular pharmacist is on holiday for two weeks and we have been told not to comment. I cannot say if we would sell the morning after pill over the counter today."

original story

I also thought this paragraph was interesting:

The pharmacists and staff at the pharmacy refused to comment but Dr John Radford, Rotherham's Director of Public Health said: "Pharmacists do have the right to use their discretion in selling over the counter drugs. These drugs will be stocked by the pharmacy to be supplied when a prescription is written by a doctor."

emphasis added

Edited October 18, 2006 by Marc and Olga

[Veiled Princess 1]

It was not the muslim pharmacist. But rather a catholic in Illinois. He was fired from Walgreens and now is suing Walgreens. Get the story straight first. Besides, this is old news

The morning after pill does not need a prescription anymore

Did you miss the link to the story? It's in the first post.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/mailFrameset...in_page_id=1770

edited for a typo

Link does not work.

Because in some cases, the pharmacist is the one who owns the pharmacy and decides, like any other shopkeeper, what products to stock and sell.

Gupt,

don't you have a hill to visit?

Daniel

:energetic:

Not for over the counter medicines...which the morning after pill is.

Why not? He owns what's behind the counter too.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It was not the muslim pharmacist. But rather a catholic in Illinois. He was fired from Walgreens and now is suing Walgreens. Get the story straight first. Besides, this is old news

The morning after pill does not need a prescription anymore

Did you miss the link to the story? It's in the first post.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/mailFrameset...in_page_id=1770

edited for a typo

Link does not work.

We've been down this path before, VP. Malformed URLs and your complete inability to figure them out. You must be the most computer illiterate person on these forums.

Here, I'll make it easier for ya.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/mailFrameset...in_page_id=1770

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england...ire/6049750.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../14/npill14.xml

Edited October 18, 2006 by Gupt

[boboroad 0]

Worried mum Jo-Ann Thomas was left stunned when Muslim pharmacist refused her a morning after pill on religious grounds.

[

She should just find a different pharmacist.O

[sheraz 0]

Unfortunately GUPT has this habit of bashing muslims and posting fake stories

Were you formerly known as "Dood Wala"? In that case, I have a long memory of you (on a parody "not going through Islamabad" thread last year)

No I am not your DOOD WALA

But I know who you are IBO of quixstar.com

I attended that presentation. Have you made any money on that so far or is that a hoax

[Veiled Princess 1]

I really don't know what the big deal is just because this guy was muslim... many christians in the US have done the same thing

"We are not dispensing machines," Shafer said. "We are professionals who have as many rights as anybody else."

full story

Some pharmacists, however, disagree and refuse on moral grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives. And states from Rhode Island to Washington have proposed laws that would protect such decisions.

Mississippi enacted a sweeping statute that went into effect in July that allows health care providers, including pharmacists, to not participate in procedures that go against their conscience. South Dakota and Arkansas already had laws that protect a pharmacist's right to refuse to dispense medicines. Ten other states considered similar bills this year.

The American Pharmacists Association, with 50,000 members, has a policy that says druggists can refuse to fill prescriptions if they object on moral grounds, but they must make arrangements so a patient can still get the pills. Yet some pharmacists have refused to hand the prescription to another druggist to fill.

full story

"More and more pharmacists are becoming aware of their right to conscientiously refuse to pass objectionable medications across the counter. We are on the very front edge of a wave that's going to break not too far down the line."

full story

Druggists who personally oppose morning-after birth control pills could refuse to sell them under a rule endorsed Thursday by state pharmacy regulators.

full story

Let's not forget too, as mentioned in one article, pharmacists are legally responsible for what they sell... meaning, if a woman who doesn't know she's already pregnant, buys this over the counter medication and 8 months later has a badly deformed baby because of the damage this drug did to her baby, she's well within her rights to sue him... why shouldn't he also have the right to refuse to sell it?

There's an Eckards, CVS, Walgreen or Wal-mart on every corner in this country!

Anyway, many christians have refused to sell this drug... why is it headline news that one muslim has?

[sheraz 0]

It was not the muslim pharmacist. But rather a catholic in Illinois. He was fired from Walgreens and now is suing Walgreens. Get the story straight first. Besides, this is old news

The morning after pill does not need a prescription anymore

Did you miss the link to the story? It's in the first post.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/mailFrameset...in_page_id=1770

edited for a typo

Link does not work.

We've been down this path before, VP. Malformed URLs and your complete inability to figure them out. You must be the most computer illiterate person on these forums.

Here, I'll make it easier for ya.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/mailFrameset...in_page_id=1770

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england...ire/6049750.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../14/npill14.xml

If the London case is a different one, its not the first instance. An IL pharmacist did the same thing. He was an evangelical christian and the courts supported his stance. So the case closed and it was decided that the pharmacist had the discretion to give out the drugs he chose to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2005Mar27.html

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

If the London case is a different one, its not the first instance. An IL pharmacist did the same thing. He was an evangelical christian and the courts supported his stance. So the case closed and it was decided that the pharmacist had the discretion to give out the drugs he chose to.

Yes, the pharmacist has the discretion to do so. No one is arguing otherwise. However, I would submit to you that they shouldn't have the discretion. JMHO.

[Fandango 1,440]

If the London case is a different one, its not the first instance. An IL pharmacist did the same thing. He was an evangelical christian and the courts supported his stance. So the case closed and it was decided that the pharmacist had the discretion to give out the drugs he chose to.

Yes, the pharmacist has the discretion to do so. No one is arguing otherwise. However, I would submit to you that they shouldn't have the discretion. JMHO.

Your submission is noted

[sheraz 0]

If the London case is a different one, its not the first instance. An IL pharmacist did the same thing. He was an evangelical christian and the courts supported his stance. So the case closed and it was decided that the pharmacist had the discretion to give out the drugs he chose to.

Yes, the pharmacist has the discretion to do so. No one is arguing otherwise. However, I would submit to you that they shouldn't have the discretion. JMHO.

Your submission is noted

The pharmacist should not have that discretion. He should also be protected by law ggainst law suits.

[Marc and Olga 0]

If the London case is a different one, its not the first instance. An IL pharmacist did the same thing. He was an evangelical christian and the courts supported his stance. So the case closed and it was decided that the pharmacist had the discretion to give out the drugs he chose to.

Yes, the pharmacist has the discretion to do so. No one is arguing otherwise. However, I would submit to you that they shouldn't have the discretion. JMHO.

I would agree, they shouldn't but the same note, they shouldn't be responsible if some woman decided a month too late that she didn't want the child and took it then leaving the baby to grow albeit deformed.

OTC drugs should leave much of the responsibility on the consumer, after all don't they always tell us, READ the label?

Maybe that is just me though...

I wonder if she had of gone in with a prescription from her doctor for it, would he have then sold her the drug despite his religious beliefs?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Were you formerly known as "Dood Wala"? In that case, I have a long memory of you (on a parody "not going through Islamabad" thread last year)

No I am not your DOOD WALA....

somewhat disappointed--because you are as blind to reality as Spilled-milk-whiner (my nomenclature for Dood Wala after he posted lots of "cheating" accusations against me on the parody thread--there were no RULES for it, just increase the size; same way with you about Gupt's links).

So, :bonk: