POE issues

[Tiekey 1]

Hello,

Currently going through the I-130 process, and planning to start filing out DS-230. I have a couple of questions. If anyonecan help, I'd be greatful.

1) The DS-230 asks which children will be accompaning the immigrant, and which will follow later; at this stage it depends. If the visa is issued in time that we can go during July/August, which is the plan, then we'll all go together. If it won't be till Sept/Oct, then I will go with my wife, and the kids will follow later ( due to school terms etc, not so practical to come then) - my wife and kids are all US Citizens, so they won't be immigrating. So what do I write on the DS-230 in such a case? SPecifically, if I say they're coming with me, and we arrive at the POE without them (or vice versa) is this going to cause any problems?

2) Can someone describe how the POE process works - is it just a case of handling over the sealed envelope, and getting the I-551 stamp in passport, or is there more to it?

3) What is in the sealed envelope?

4) Has anyone used Shannon or Dublin as a POE - I believe they have a US Border there? Would this complicate things (as the packet has to be sent to the US) or could it make it easier (I'd must prefer to relax on the flight know I'll arrive in Domestic not International, and Immigration is out the way)

5) What would happen if someone passed through immigration at Dublin/Shannon, and then didn't board the flight; would the Green Card still go through? I'm not planning on doing this, by the way, but wondering nevertheless.

Thanks

Andy

[yousufwalton 0]

im pretty sure there is no US border in europe or the surrounding islands of Brittan.

Now they do have a "pre-clearance" thing

From wikipedia

Ireland

U.S. Customs and Border Protection at Shannon Shannon Airport: "Welcome to the United States. US-VISIT procedures are in effect. All international visitors are required to provide two digital fingerscans and a digital photograph." The U.S. and Ireland entered into a preinspection arrangement in 1986.^[9] Shannon Airport initially offered only immigration checks, with customs and agriculture inspections done on arrival in the U.S.—a procedure more properly known as preinspection. In August 2009, Shannon opened an addition to its preclearance facility that provided customs and agriculture inspections as well. The facilities at Dublin Airport, like those at Shannon, initially offered only immigration checks on select flights. In January 2011, a section of the recently opened Terminal 2 dedicated to preclearance opened with full CBP facilities. Both airports now allow U.S.-bound commercial flights that use the preclearance facilities to arrive at domestic terminals instead of international terminals, which in turn allows arriving passengers to leave airports upon landing without further inspection. Since March 2010, the Shannon preclearance facility is also available for use by private aircraft; the Dublin facility is only available for commercial flights. Note: In Dublin, the preclearance immigration facility is only available for U.S.-bound flights departing before 16:00. Passengers on later flights undergo U.S. immigration and customs checks upon arrival in the U.S.

Now not to sure if this includes Full immigration services you should call the airport and whatnot and check it out.

[Saylin 1,605]

Hello,

Currently going through the I-130 process, and planning to start filing out DS-230. I have a couple of questions. If anyonecan help, I'd be greatful.

1) The DS-230 asks which children will be accompaning the immigrant, and which will follow later; at this stage it depends. If the visa is issued in time that we can go during July/August, which is the plan, then we'll all go together. If it won't be till Sept/Oct, then I will go with my wife, and the kids will follow later ( due to school terms etc, not so practical to come then) - my wife and kids are all US Citizens, so they won't be immigrating. So what do I write on the DS-230 in such a case? SPecifically, if I say they're coming with me, and we arrive at the POE without them (or vice versa) is this going to cause any problems?

2) Can someone describe how the POE process works - is it just a case of handling over the sealed envelope, and getting the I-551 stamp in passport, or is there more to it?

3) What is in the sealed envelope?

4) Has anyone used Shannon or Dublin as a POE - I believe they have a US Border there? Would this complicate things (as the packet has to be sent to the US) or could it make it easier (I'd must prefer to relax on the flight know I'll arrive in Domestic not International, and Immigration is out the way)

5) What would happen if someone passed through immigration at Dublin/Shannon, and then didn't board the flight; would the Green Card still go through? I'm not planning on doing this, by the way, but wondering nevertheless.

Thanks

Andy

1. The question you're referring to on the DS-230 is asking about people IMMIGRATING, not just accompanying. So, if you're the only beneficiary (person to receive a visa), then you'd put 'none' on those two questions.

2. That's pretty much it. You hand over the sealed envelope, they'll go over the files, they'll confirm that the address to send the green card to is still correct, they'll take your fingerprints (and maybe a picture), then give you your stamp in your passport if everything is in order. You can read my POE review (click on my timeline then scroll all the way down). The process might be a bit different doing it in an airport (mine was at a land border), but the essentials are still the same.

3. It's everything you've ever submitted to USCIS/NVC/embassy. So, the I-130, I-864, DS-230, etc. Whatever you do, do NOT open this sealed envelope. The border officers will not accept it if it's been opened.

4. I'm not from Europe, so I've obviously not used those preclearance locations. But, it won't make a difference if you do your POE at a preclearance location or actually within the US. It'd probably make you a lot more comfortable if you cleared it before hand (so in Ireland) so you don't have to stress about it for the entire flight.

[Tiekey 1]

1. The question you're referring to on the DS-230 is asking about people IMMIGRATING, not just accompanying. So, if you're the only beneficiary (person to receive a visa), then you'd put 'none' on those two questions.

Thanks, but question 29 says "List names, Dates and place of birth, and Addresses of ALL children" (emphasis theirs), and question 31(a) asks for "Persons named in 14 and 29 who are accompanying you now" and 31(b) asks for "Persons named in 14 and 29 who are following later".

Are you saying I should leave these questions blank, because my children are USCs? The emphasis on "ALL" seems to imply even US citizen children?

[Saylin 1,605]

Thanks, but question 29 says "List names, Dates and place of birth, and Addresses of ALL children" (emphasis theirs), and question 31(a) asks for "Persons named in 14 and 29 who are accompanying you now" and 31(b) asks for "Persons named in 14 and 29 who are following later".

Are you saying I should leave these questions blank, because my children are USCs? The emphasis on "ALL" seems to imply even US citizen children?

For 29, you'd still list the children, but I meant for 31 you'd put 'none'. Again, accompany in this form refers to IMMIGRATING. Since your wife and children are USCs, they're of course not immigrating with you.

[Tiekey 1]

For 29, you'd still list the children, but I meant for 31 you'd put 'none'. Again, accompany in this form refers to IMMIGRATING. Since your wife and children are USCs, they're of course not immigrating with you.

Thanks for your advice.