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Why bait me into this pettiness?

Baited, Danno? Come on. You said, "What's the difference between Scottish/British?" and didn't bother to articulate just what you meant by that except that by not explaining your statement, you assumed that your audience would know what you were talking about. You left your audience no other choice but to assume that you can't see any difference between the two peoples.

Feel free now to articulate just what you meant if my assumption is incorrect. I'm dying to know.

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Baited, Danno? Come on. You said, "What's the difference between Scottish/British?" and didn't bother to articulate just what you meant by that except that by not explaining your statement, you assumed that your audience would know what you were talking about.

Fancypants, Danno perhaps does not assume his audience is retarded?

To many of us, British-Scottish.... whats the difference?

to them there is a big difference ...

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Wow, wiki. You're good.

Anyone that knows about the split between the Czech Republic and Slovakia wouldn't be so ignorant as to write a hack piece like the one in the OP.

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While I don't feel qualified to comment on the comparisons the author makes with the former Yugoslavia/Czechoslovakia, I thought the article nicely balanced and fairly written with regards to the English/Scottish divide.

I'd be interested to know what would happen to the monarchy in the event of a split, given that it was a Scottish king who united the two kingdoms.

Really, though, I can't help but feel that the issues ARE very different. For a start, as the article itself points out, the Scots and English have not persecuted each other within living memory. Secondly, and this is purely anecdotal, but every English person with whom I've ever discussed ancestry has at least one recent Scottish ancestor, and I know of so many English families who've moved to work/live in Scotland and vice versa that I always think the two countries are considerably more co-mingled than these type of articles like to make out. I'm not saying a split is impossible - I see it as quite probable, actually - but I'd certainly be very interested to see how things played out.

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While I don't feel qualified to comment on the comparisons the author makes with the former Yugoslavia/Czechoslovakia, I thought the article nicely balanced and fairly written with regards to the English/Scottish divide.

I'd be interested to know what would happen to the monarchy in the event of a split, given that it was a Scottish king who united the two kingdoms.

Really, though, I can't help but feel that the issues ARE very different. For a start, as the article itself points out, the Scots and English have not persecuted each other within living memory. Secondly, and this is purely anecdotal, but every English person with whom I've ever discussed ancestry has at least one recent Scottish ancestor, and I know of so many English families who've moved to work/live in Scotland and vice versa that I always think the two countries are considerably more co-mingled than these type of articles like to make out. I'm not saying a split is impossible - I see it as quite probable, actually - but I'd certainly be very interested to see how things played out.

The author never mentioned Czechoslovakia which was a peaceful and amicable split between the two countries, he/she only mentioned Yugoslavia.

The differences between Orthodox Serbs, Catholic Croats, and Bosnian Muslims were terrific not to mention the past history of genocide between those three parties and as recent as WW2. Hack piece doesn't even begin to explain that article.

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The author never mentioned Czechoslovakia which was a peaceful and amicable split between the two countries, he/she only mentioned Yugoslavia which right there showed just how much of a hack piece that article in the OP is.

The differences between Orthodox Serbs, Catholic Croats, and Bosnian Muslims were terrific not to mention the past history of genocide between those three parties and as recent as WW2. Hack piece doesn't even begin to explain that article.

Well, it does, but admittedly it only off-handedly mentions them in one paragraph:

If Scotland leaves the UK, argue pro-independence Scots, it and the rest of the UK would both be equal successor states, as the union England and Scotland joined in 1707 would have been voluntarily dissolved by both parties. The relevant precedent is Czechoslovakia, where both the Czech Republic and Slovakia were deemed to be successor states after the 1993 "velvet divorce".

But yes, it seems incomparable to Yugoslavia to me... that's why I couldn't even begin to comment!

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Well, it does, but admittedly it only off-handedly mentions them in one paragraph:

But yes, it seems incomparable to Yugoslavia to me... that's why I couldn't even begin to comment!

I don't see there being any problems if they do split.

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I'd be interested to know what would happen to the monarchy in the event of a split, given that it was a Scottish king who united the two kingdoms.

If you are talking about James VI (Scotland) aka James I (England) it didn't happen despite several attempts. They shared a monarch but were not the union as we know it until the 1706/7 Acts under Queen Anne.

If they remain part of the Commonwealth nothing will happen.

I don't see there being any problems if they do split.

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If you are talking about James VI (Scotland) aka James I (England) it didn't happen despite several attempts. They shared a monarch but were not the union as we know it until the 1706/7 Acts under Queen Anne.

If they remain part of the Commonwealth nothing will happen.

North Sea oil and gas says otherwise :yes:

It will go to court, and if it's in Scottish waters I don't see BP getting their hands on it. Scotland's waters will be just that...Scotland's waters.

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