Aging out K-2

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Great News! Thanks to Darnell for the advice and something else we can all learn and pass on.

Best to you and your family!

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

WOW !!!!!!!!!!! This is great news. Now..make sure your wife AND son are part of this approval. If he was listed as a K2 on her application then you both have been approved. His name should be on the notice, usually down in the left hand corner, as I recall. UDACHI !!!!!

In our case the boys names never appeared on any documents related to the petition. Just make an appointment for both at the consulate and each of them apply for a visa.

Let us know if you have any questions regarding the visa application process in Ukraine. Check out the Russia/Ukraine/Belarus regional forum on the "forums" page

[Darnell 8,479]

On March 7, 2012, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E). Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.

OutFrickin' Standing.

In about a month - the Immigrant Visa Unit will have not only received the casefile, but will have OPENED the casefile, and start silly things, like SCHEDULING.

You can keep on top of the casefile MOVEMENT, from USCIS, to NVC, to the IV Unit at the Embassy,

by studying this topic:

Dodi - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/264972-shortcuts-when-checking-for-updates-from-the-nvc-and-dos/

Dodi's posted how to call, who to call,

and further down, I've posted WHEN to call, what you can get,

and all of the timeticks pertinent to tracking a K-1 visa from NOA-2 to interview day to receiving the visa packet.

Reprogram yer speed dial, as once the casefile is opened at the IV Unit, you'll be setting up for ANOTHER expedite request, using the same reason - Potential K-2 age out .

good luck, you... I pray you get the speed you need, for this next round...

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Hi all,

I received the hard copy of the NOA-2 yesterday, so now I wait a couple weeks then will contact the NVC to see what's up... coincidentally, I will be calling them from Kyiv as I will be visiting Elena on her turf for the first time (to celebrate her birthday).

Now it seems like all hell is breaking loose; she was pretty relaxed about all of this until I told her that USCIS has approved the application and now it is going to be moved to NVC, then to the embassy. She must begin to deal with trying to prepare for what she will do with her small business. She doesn't quite know how to proceed as there are some complicated tax regulations regarding closure of a business, etc. She doesn't know if she will close her doors and rent out the building, or keep it open and find a manager to handle the operation, or what. She will keep her home (real estate market crashed there, too). Needs to find someone to look after it. A million things.

I checked out the forums to see what she should be gathering for her and her son. She needs the police documents, of course. And she will try to locate vaccination documents.

She has plenty of passport photos.

When I visit her in a couple weeks I will take print outs of our Skype logs and email records, SMS records, etc.

Is there anything else I can take that would help her with what she will need at the embassy?

Thank you all.

Rich

Rich, Elena, and Roman

[Darnell 8,479]

she'll need the I-134 with all tax documents (yours) .

So download one of those, and study it, before you jump.

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Update, and question (help!!!)

I just called NVC regarding our case; I received the NOA-2 a couple weeks ago (notice date 3/7/12). I asked the operator for our case (KEV) number and it was given to me; then was told that the case has not been sent to the embassy as it is being held for "additional processing", and that I will be notified if any additional information is needed from me.

The operator was an impatient young man with a typical government "service" attitude. He was annoyed when I asked him to repeat the KEV case number. But at least I know I have the right number (or at least I think I do).

Now what? Should I email the embassy and give them the KEV number and a "heads up" that a potential age-out K2 visa application is in limbo, but will need attention fairly quickly after it is finally released? Or should I just wait it out awhile? I dunno...

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Rich, Elena, and Roman

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Update, and question (help!!!)

I just called NVC regarding our case; I received the NOA-2 a couple weeks ago (notice date 3/7/12). I asked the operator for our case (KEV) number and it was given to me; then was told that the case has not been sent to the embassy as it is being held for "additional processing", and that I will be notified if any additional information is needed from me.

The operator was an impatient young man with a typical government "service" attitude. He was annoyed when I asked him to repeat the KEV case number. But at least I know I have the right number (or at least I think I do).

Now what? Should I email the embassy and give them the KEV number and a "heads up" that a potential age-out K2 visa application is in limbo, but will need attention fairly quickly after it is finally released? Or should I just wait it out awhile? I dunno...

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Rich, Elena, and Roman

Kiev is pretty prom[t about making appointments and as I recall the time line was for August.AP at NVC can take 1-8 weeks or so. Rarely more. If you want to request an expedite you should request that of NVC at this point. Kiev can do nothing with it yet. You CAN get the medicals done now with the KEV number.

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Kiev is pretty prom[t about making appointments and as I recall the time line was for August.AP at NVC can take 1-8 weeks or so. Rarely more. If you want to request an expedite you should request that of NVC at this point. Kiev can do nothing with it yet. You CAN get the medicals done now with the KEV number.

Okay, great! I will request an expedite. Is it possible to do this by email? Given the rather abrupt nature of the customer service provided by the operator at NVC today, I can't imagine that this would be the person I would want to ask to expedite the process. He was extremely grumpy very unpleasant and not at all forthcoming with information unless I was very specific with my questions. Is there somebody else I should ask to speak with?

I am leaving for Kiev on March 28; I will be there and also in Zaporozhye for 10 days. I would like to at least try to tie up this loose end before I go.

I can't tell you how wonderful this forum has been for me. The support and good information has been amazing and I am very appreciative.

Thank you!

Rich, Elena, and Roman

[Darnell 8,479]

please remember - the first human that answers the phone is a contractor with SERCO company, not any government employee.

There are expedite processes to do, you betcha - but

it starts with a phone call into NVC.

You'll need to get a competent human, who will then forward you to a supervisor, to start the intake process for the expedite request.

Use a TelePhone.

If you get a jack-@ss on the first call, hang up and call back.

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Leaving tomorrow a.m. for Kiev; this is my first time to visit her on her home turf; I will be there for 2 weeks. Just enough time to get acclimated to the time difference, then I come back to California.

I will attempt to call the NVC to request expedition when I am in Ukraine. I will also go and check out the new embassy, just to have a look. I won't be able to attend the interview, but I do want to get a lay of the land.

Thanks, Darnell, for your very helpful guidance. I especially appreciate the suggestion to hang up and call back if I get an a-hole when I call NVC. Really, all of your advice is very calming. It sure makes all of this easier to take.

Rich, Elena, and Roman

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Well, I guess I am now officially in limboland. I called NVC and asked the operator (Erin) if I could speak with a supervisor, and was told that "unfortunately, they are all busy". I asked if there was some way I could communicate with a supervisor to request that my petition be expedited, and Erin said that she recommended e-mailing my request. I asked again if I could speak with a supervisor, and she said she would put in a request for a supervisor to call me on my cell phone, which they had (correctly) on record. I will be really surprised if I hear back.

For the heck of it I asked if she might give me an idea of how long AP takes...yes, I knew the answer. There is no way of knowing.

I did send off an email. It kind of felt like attaching my request to a helium balloon and releasing it outside. Hey, it might get results.

On a positive note, I fly from LA to Kiev tomorrow morning. I am just going to relax and enjoy for 10 days, then start worrying again when I get back home.

Thanks again for everything, everybody!

Rich, Elena, and Roman

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Epilogue...

The NVC called me! When I called earlier today to speak with a supervisor at NVC, I was told that none were available; the operator forwarded my request that a supervisor call me back regarding my request to expedite the petition.

The good news is that the supervisor called! I was really surprised at that, and took it as a sign that there really is a human element to the other side of this process.

The not so good news is that she could tell me nothing, only that the petition is in "additional processing" and that there is no timeline. There is only waiting.

She was polite, she even asked if there was anything else she could do for me. All I could think of were a couple of sarcastic comments which I kept to myself. Probably best to not crack wise with the State Dept.

So now I am off to Ukraine, and I have done all I can do for now.

Thanks again everybody; it sure is great to have the help and support of the VJ community.

Rich, Elena and Roman

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Epilogue...

The NVC called me! When I called earlier today to speak with a supervisor at NVC, I was told that none were available; the operator forwarded my request that a supervisor call me back regarding my request to expedite the petition.

The good news is that the supervisor called! I was really surprised at that, and took it as a sign that there really is a human element to the other side of this process.

The not so good news is that she could tell me nothing, only that the petition is in "additional processing" and that there is no timeline. There is only waiting.

She was polite, she even asked if there was anything else she could do for me. All I could think of were a couple of sarcastic comments which I kept to myself. Probably best to not crack wise with the State Dept.

So now I am off to Ukraine, and I have done all I can do for now.

Thanks again everybody; it sure is great to have the help and support of the VJ community.

Rich, Elena and Roman

The good news is that you got through the I-129f quickly. Even with AP at NVC you should be well ahead of your deadline of August for the age out. Try to relax, I think it will all be fine.

[Rich and Lenochka 0]

Update and another question...

Just returned from Ukraine; I was there with my Lenochka for almost 2 weeks and between the re-acclimatization and the experience my head is spinning. It was a phenomenal experience.

Upon return there was very good news in the mailbox; the NVC (in a letter dated April 2) informed me that they had forwarded my approved I-129f to Kiev and it should arrive there in about a week.

I returned home on April 9 (exactly one week later) and yesterday, April 11, Elena called the embassy and was told there is nothing in their system yet.

She remarked that the young man with whom she spoke was very forthright and friendly and helpful, and he offered that with Euro cup coming up she will want to stay on top of this, because there will

be a big increase in interviews and other activity at the consulate as spring progresses, and getting a quick interview date will become increasingly difficult as time goes by. He told her that if our application had shown up in the computer today her interview could have been scheduled as soon as May 3 (about 3 weeks from now), but the lag time can be expected to grow longer as we get closer to summer.

Elena's son (Roma) will finish his studies at USC and will be in Ukraine between May 26 and June 15 before returning to California for summer school. He potentially "ages out" on August 12.

In a perfectly customized world she would interview in Kiev between now and June 15, by herself or with her 20 year old son in tow. He needs to interview with (or after) Elena and fly back to L.A. by June 15.

I know we are only at about the 10 day mark since the date the NVC says it processed and sent the application to Kiev.

Are we jumping the gun a little here by expecting the application to be in Kiev and awaiting our call for an interview date?

Should I wait awhile before calling the embassy myself?

Thank you in advance for your advice....

Rich, Elena, and Roman

[Darnell 8,479]

Since there's been some casefile movement,

you really need to re-study all in post #18 here in yer topic.

Todayish.

Edited April 14, 2012 by Darnell