3-part Question...

[bradyvicky 0]

1. The current online version expires 9/30/06, however older versions are good until 10/19/06. You think the current one will be good past 10/19/06???? Deciding whether I should fill it out in advance or wait till I reeive mine because mine should come right around the expiration date.

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

3. The instructions no longer say put "n/a" into areas that dont apply. Leave them blank? Whats your vote?

Thanks as usual....hope all is well in waiting-land out there!!!!!!!!

Brad & Vicky

[simple_male 1]

1. The current online version expires 9/30/06, however older versions are good until 10/19/06. You think the current one will be good past 10/19/06???? Deciding whether I should fill it out in advance or wait till I reeive mine because mine should come right around the expiration date.

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

3. The instructions no longer say put "n/a" into areas that dont apply. Leave them blank? Whats your vote?

Thanks as usual....hope all is well in waiting-land out there!!!!!!!!

Brad & Vicky

1. Someone who receives the I-864 from NVC can tell you what is the expiration date written on his/her I-864. In order to be safe, you can wait until you receive the I-864 packet from NVC.

2. You only required to submit your most recent year's tax return. But you may submit your last 3 years' returns, if you want. The I-864 is nto required to be notarized.

3. Never leave any space blank. Either write "NONE" or "N/A" depends on which one is appropriate to you.

[lquin 0]

1. The current online version expires 9/30/06, however older versions are good until 10/19/06. You think the current one will be good past 10/19/06???? Deciding whether I should fill it out in advance or wait till I reeive mine because mine should come right around the expiration date.

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

3. The instructions no longer say put "n/a" into areas that dont apply. Leave them blank? Whats your vote?

Thanks as usual....hope all is well in waiting-land out there!!!!!!!!

Brad & Vicky

1. Call and ask the NVC to put your mind at rest.

2. Yes you only need to send your last years tax return

3. Never leave any areas blank. use either n/a or none depending on the question.

Goodluck on the rest of your journey !

[bradyvicky 0]

1. The current online version expires 9/30/06, however older versions are good until 10/19/06. You think the current one will be good past 10/19/06???? Deciding whether I should fill it out in advance or wait till I reeive mine because mine should come right around the expiration date.

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

3. The instructions no longer say put "n/a" into areas that dont apply. Leave them blank? Whats your vote?

Thanks as usual....hope all is well in waiting-land out there!!!!!!!!

Brad & Vicky

1. Call and ask the NVC to put your mind at rest.

2. Yes you only need to send your last years tax return

3. Never leave any areas blank. use either n/a or none depending on the question.

Goodluck on the rest of your journey !

Thanks y'all.... needed a little confirmation there to rest easy!

[Yodrak 7]

Brad & Vicky,

1. Yes.

2. I think it would be prudent to document any claims you make.

3. Assume that all questions apply and give a meaningful answer. There is always a better answer than 'N/A', even when 'N/A' does apply (a wondering case officer may want to know 'Why does this not apply to you?' - anticipate such reaction and answer in advance).

Yodrak

1. The current online version expires 9/30/06, however older versions are good until 10/19/06. You think the current one will be good past 10/19/06???? Deciding whether I should fill it out in advance or wait till I reeive mine because mine should come right around the expiration date.

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

3. The instructions no longer say put "n/a" into areas that dont apply. Leave them blank? Whats your vote?

Thanks as usual....hope all is well in waiting-land out there!!!!!!!!

Brad & Vicky

[meauxna 15]

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

Are you sure there is no requirement for an employer letter and paystaubs, to show current employment?

There have been many RFEs sent for these items.

[miker32us 6]

I received my I-864 package from NVC this week, 10-1 and the I-864EZ I completed in that package also had an expiration date of 9/30/06 so it is obvious NVC is not that concerned.

1. The current online version expires 9/30/06, however older versions are good until 10/19/06. You think the current one will be good past 10/19/06???? Deciding whether I should fill it out in advance or wait till I reeive mine because mine should come right around the expiration date.

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

3. The instructions no longer say put "n/a" into areas that dont apply. Leave them blank? Whats your vote?

Thanks as usual....hope all is well in waiting-land out there!!!!!!!!

Brad & Vicky

[bradyvicky 0]

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

Are you sure there is no requirement for an employer letter and paystaubs, to show current employment?

There have been many RFEs sent for these items.

According to the I-864 instructions, on page 7, it states you MAY include evidence supporting the claim of income IF you believe submitting this evidence will establish your ability to maintain sufficient income. Then it says you are only required to submit this evidence if instructed by a Government Official.

I understand it to mean that if your previous year tax returns dont really meet the grade desire, and if your previous job(s) this year up until recently also arent good enough, then your CURRENT evidence to show that you are on track is needed. However in my case, my Taxes are all good and my current pay rate supports continued improvement. I will send some paystubs just to be safe, but having to go much further I think is doubtful.

I'll bet that those who have received RFE's on this have something else in the income history that caused some doubt as to their consistency of the level of income.

PS....thanks to the others who also have responded with facts/opinions!!!!

[meauxna 15]

2. Required Income Evidence - seems to be that only stated income is necessary, no proof of income unless they state they need it. Anyone ran into this being problem and had to send evidence later? Required Taxes Evidence - only one years copies now needed unless more is requested later? Seem right to you?

Are you sure there is no requirement for an employer letter and paystaubs, to show current employment?

There have been many RFEs sent for these items.

According to the I-864 instructions, on page 7, it states you MAY include evidence supporting the claim of income IF you believe submitting this evidence will establish your ability to maintain sufficient income. Then it says you are only required to submit this evidence if instructed by a Government Official.

I understand it to mean that if your previous year tax returns dont really meet the grade desire, and if your previous job(s) this year up until recently also arent good enough, then your CURRENT evidence to show that you are on track is needed. However in my case, my Taxes are all good and my current pay rate supports continued improvement. I will send some paystubs just to be safe, but having to go much further I think is doubtful.

I'll bet that those who have received RFE's on this have something else in the income history that caused some doubt as to their consistency of the level of income.

PS....thanks to the others who also have responded with facts/opinions!!!!

If you read the instructions on the uscis.gov forms page, they read:

Special Instructions:

All sponsors must submit the following documentation with their I-864:

Proof of current employment or self employment

A photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of a photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of your complete Federal income tax return for your most recent tax year, or an explanation if it is not submitted. Your W-2s and/or 1099 forms may also be required, see the I-864 instructions for details.

You may also, at your option, submit a photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of your complete Federal income tax returns for your second and third most recent tax years if you believe these additional tax returns may help you establish the ability to maintain your household income at the governing threshold set forth in Form I-864P, Poverty Guidelines.

The posters in the thread about the I-864 RFEs do not have unusual situations, they simply read the instructions differently than I do. They read it like you do.

You did ask if others have had this RFE and I answer that they have. Best wishes.

[Yodrak 7]

bradyvicky,

I think that that wording is unfortunate. In my opinion you should expect that submitting the mentioned evidence will establish your ability to maintain sufficient income, you should not expect that your unsupporte word will be sufficient.

There is anecdotal evidence accumulating that Government Officials will intruct people to submit evidence of current income.

Yodrak

According to the I-864 instructions, on page 7, it states you MAY include evidence supporting the claim of income IF you believe submitting this evidence will establish your ability to maintain sufficient income. Then it says you are only required to submit this evidence if instructed by a Government Official.

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[bradyvicky 0]

If you read the instructions on the uscis.gov forms page, they read:

Special Instructions:

All sponsors must submit the following documentation with their I-864:

Proof of current employment or self employment

A photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of a photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of your complete Federal income tax return for your most recent tax year, or an explanation if it is not submitted. Your W-2s and/or 1099 forms may also be required, see the I-864 instructions for details.

You may also, at your option, submit a photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of your complete Federal income tax returns for your second and third most recent tax years if you believe these additional tax returns may help you establish the ability to maintain your household income at the governing threshold set forth in Form I-864P, Poverty Guidelines.

The posters in the thread about the I-864 RFEs do not have unusual situations, they simply read the instructions differently than I do. They read it like you do.

You did ask if others have had this RFE and I answer that they have. Best wishes.

uuhhhh, ok?

I didnt say anything about the posters in this thread, just RFE's in general.

I already agreed with the fact the most recent years tax-forms are required.

Thanks anyway!

bradyvicky,

I think that that wording is unfortunate. In my opinion you should expect that submitting the mentioned evidence will establish your ability to maintain sufficient income, you should not expect that your unsupporte word will be sufficient.

There is anecdotal evidence accumulating that Government Officials will intruct people to submit evidence of current income.

Yodrak

I agree with you on that. I believe the new wording opens it up to people submitting very little, thus resulting in a quicker RFE, as opposed to the old opinion of over-submitting the first time! I just thought it was unbelievably different this time around, when last time IHAD to submit a heck of a lot more!

Edited October 6, 2006 by bradyvicky