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legality of several marriages

By kirk and Jenny in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

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bowhunter   0

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It seems like the best route is to have two ceremonies. Thanks for your help, all.

Once she clears the interview process in Manila, Evelyn will come here on her k-1 and we'll have a civil ceremony here in the states to make everything legal. But we will return to the Philippines later for a formal Catholic Church ceremony. We've discussed this with the Church officials in Phils, and my understanding (I'm not Catholic, she is) is that the ceremony is for the 'Church Blessings' only. It would not be a legal marriage ceremony because we are married already. I believe the Philippine govt would recognize our US marriage. All of this, of course, is how I understand it, and your best bet is to speak directly to the local Philippine and/or Church authorities.

October 1, 2005 . . . . Evelyn and I met online

March 8, 2006 . . . . Traveled to Phils for first face-2-face . . . Oh, my god! . . . Wow!!!

March 21, 2006 . . . . I-129F Packet Sent

March 30, 2006 . . . . NOA1 Received

May 25, 2006 . . . . Traveled to Phils for Evelyn's June 1st Bday

June 1, 2006 . . . . Application transferred from Lincoln, NE to California

July 5, 2006 . . . . IMBRA-RFE Request Received

July 6, 2006 . . . . IMBRA-RFE Information Sent

July 13, 2006 . . . . IMBRA-RFE Information Received Ack from USCIS

September 11, 2006 . . . . Email from USCIS - CASE APPROVED !!!!!!

September 15, 2006 . . . . Third trip to Phils . . . dragged kicking and screaming to my flight home

September 16, 2006 . . . . NOA2 Received !!!

October 16 . . . . NVC received packet

October 17 . . . NVC forwards packet to Manila

October 23 . . . Manila receives Visa packet

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Ken_Maria   0

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My fiancee's family cannot come over here for the wedding. We plan to get married here. Later, we were hoping to go back to the Philippines and get married there also, because my family can go to the Philippines. Does anyone know the legality of this?

Kirk and Jenny, I have several friends that have done exactly what several of you are proposing. The legal marriage in the states is recognized in the PI so no need for the marriage license fiasco in the PI. If it is just the Catholic Church ceremoney to be recognized by the PI Church u r wanting, u both have to be Catholic or the non Catholic will have to attend some classes at the church.

Most all my friends just had the ceremoney in the PI for the benefit of their spouses family. My frineds just did this in Dec and they have been married for 2 years already in the states. Good luck and congrats, Payato

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22 Jul 06 - Received NOA-1

18 Sep 06 - Received NOA2 in mail

11 Oct 06 - Case MNL783xxx received by Manila Embassy... guess NVC lied

26 Dec 06 - Received Packet 4

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19 Jan - CFO completed after SLE shots... have to go back for the stamp after visa approval

15 Feb 07 - Interview Approved

24 Feb 07 - Arrive at Honolulu POE

2 Apr 07 - Married, civil ceremony, mailed AOS

17 Apr 07 - Checks cashed for AOS & AP

22 Apr 07 - Filed Expedite for AP

8 May 07 - Biometrics Appt

8 May 07 - Filed complaint with local USCIS for no action on Expedite request

9 May 07 - AP Expedite approved via email

14 May 07 - received AP I-512L documents in the mail

25 Jun 07 - AOS Interview scheduled but cancelled due to deployment and family emergency

29 Nov 07 - Visited local USCIS to reschedule AOS interview

15 Jan 08 - Local USCIS finally forwards reschedule request after formal complaint

8 Feb 08 - Received new Interview date

28 Mar 08 - AOS Interview ..investigation reopened due to incorrect birthdate that was identified 05/07

16 Apr 08 - CRIS Notice of GC approval and welcome notice via email

25 Apr 08 - GC received finally!

15 Jan 10 - Mailed Lifting of Conditions Package

19 Jan 10 - Package received at VT USCIS

22 Jan 10 - Checked cashed by USCIS

26 Jan 10 - Received NOA dated 20 Jan 10

29 Jan 10 - Received NOA for Biometrics

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zyggy Experienced

zyggy   9

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You can have as many wedding ceremonies as you want...

You can only have 1 legal marriage...

So you can only get the license once... and have one marrige certificate. but can do the wedding ceremony as many time as you wish..

Are we using marriage and wedding/ceremony synonomously? A marriage is a legal and binding contract so to speak. Anna Nicole Smith exchanged non-binding vows with her lawyer today. A ceremony but not a legal binding marriage because no certificate/contract was signed.

No I am not.. there is a distinct difference between a wedding and a marriage...

A marriage is a legal contract...

A wedding is a ceremony...

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They do ask both the petitioner or the beneficiary whether they're free to marry when we file, right? And so we have to send divorce/annulment decrees - or even proof that one's single - to that effect. That, to me, is another hint that it's not okay to marry twice, no matter where.

You are correct that is is NOT ok to LEGALLY marry twice and you must be LEGALLY single to enter the USA on a K1. Many countries (such as Mexico, Thailand, etc) have a seperate religious and legal/civil wedding. It is only this legal wedding that impacts the K1/K3 visa. I intend to have a religious wedding in Thailand (with her family) then return here with her and have a legal wedding with mine. Religious weddings in Thailand have no legal basis until registered with civil authorities. Perhaps the Phillipines is the same. That would make if really easy for you to do both like I will.

Best of luck to you,

Randy

6/14/06 - I-129f packet ready to send

6/15/06 - Decided to delay sending and use new form when available

6/28/06 - Finally mailed to Nebraska Service Center

7/20/06 - NOA1

9/20/06 - Touched for the very first time

9/21/06 - Email NOA2 wooohhooo faster than we had hoped for

9/25/06 - Snail Mail NOA2

9/25/06 - Received at NVC, verified with phone call

9/27/06 - Sent to embassy in Bangkok! Hoping my love will be here for the holidays!!!

9/30/06 - Arrived at embassy and waiting for packet 3

10/24/06 - Finally recieved packet 3

11/22/06 - Packet 3 sent to BKK embassy

11/24/06 - Embassy received packet 3

01/08/07 - Received packet 4 from BKK embassy

01/29/07 - Embassy Interview

01/30/07 - VISA in hand!!

02/05/07 - Returning to states with POE @ SFO

04/05/07 - Filed AOS

04/13/07 - NOA for I-485

06/15/07 - Biometrics

03/25/08 - Interview Date

04/04/08 - GC Received

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