No US visa? Don't worry, use the seastead

[MalaysianGirl 26]

http://www.zdnet.com.au/no-us-visa-dont-worry-use-the-seastead-339327126.htm

No US visa? Don't worry, use the seastead

By Declan McCullagh, CNET News.com on December 1st, 2011 (6 hours ago)

Famed Silicon Valley investor and entrepreneur Peter Thiel is helping to launch a floating technology incubator 12 miles off the coast of Northern California.

Blueseed, which is planning an offshore "seastead" for foreign entrepreneurs who have difficulty obtaining visas to live or work in the US, said that Thiel has agreed to lead the company's initial financing round.

"We're all totally psyched," Blueseed CEO and co-founder Max Marty told ZDNet Australia's sister site CNET. It's "hard to imagine this was just an idea some months ago".

This isn't the first time that Thiel, a self-described libertarian who also founded a hedge fund and created the philanthropic Thiel Foundation, has been active in supporting seasteading. He's donated more than half a million dollars to the Seasteading Institute, which has a mission of colonising the world's oceans.

In an interview with CNET in September, Thiel likened starting a seastead to founding a company:

"What attracted me to seasteading is, it's linked to the technology question. We have this question about: where in the world can one do new things? There's a technological version of that, and there's also a 'Where can we build new communities and new societies?'...

"The reason the seasteading question has been so interesting is that a lot of people do think that we can do much better as a society. And if you run the thought experiment, could we be doing things better in our society, people may disagree on the particulars, but an awful lot of people think things can be done dramatically better...

"In a large existing company there are set ways things have happened. Sometimes there's a sclerotic bureaucracy that's taken things over. You can change things at the margins, but you often cannot change the fundamental fabric. The reason people start new companies is because there's a need to have a certain amount of freedom to explore doing new things. That's why you'd start a new business. There's a question: if you can start a new business, why can you not start a new country?"

Blueseed isn't quite that ambitious. The founders plans to register their seastead — which could be a cruise ship or an ocean-worthy barge — in a country with a reputable legal system, such as the Bahamas or the Marshall Islands. That nation's laws would apply, and they also plan to voluntarily follow US public policy on topics like illegal drugs.

Their eventual goal is to attract up to 1000 entrepreneurs who want to live a short ferry's ride away from Silicon Valley, with its unsurpassed network of tech investors, law firms, suppliers and social opportunities. They hope to raise US$500,000 in the next half year and then try to secure between US$10 million and US$30 million to charter or purchase a suitable vessel.

It's an ambitious project with an untested business model that also amounts to a clever legal hack: programmers relocating to Blueseed's maritime hub could bypass US immigration entirely by taking chartered ferries from Mexico or Canada, or enter the US on a business or temporary visa. Blueseed hopes to run regular ferries from Half Moon Bay, about half an hour's drive from Silicon Valley.

Via CNET

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Thiel is a nutcase. Always has been. Uncle Sam will wait until the vessel goes on anchor and tell those seasteaders who attempt to circumevent U.S. immigration law that they are not welcome on U.S. shores.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Thiel is a nutcase. Always has been. Uncle Sam will wait until the vessel goes on anchor and tell those seasteaders who attempt to circumevent U.S. immigration law that they are not welcome on U.S. shores.

I hope you're right.

[MalaysianGirl 26]

Thiel is a nutcase. Always has been. Uncle Sam will wait until the vessel goes on anchor and tell those seasteaders who attempt to circumevent U.S. immigration law that they are not welcome on U.S. shores.

Perhaps... It's just a bit crazy how far some people would go to circumvent US immigration law!