Why Gingrich Could Win

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

The reason why Obama has nothing to fear a year from now is because the Reptilians have really been unable to find even one acceptable candidate among over 310,000,000 people. It just boggles the mind.

I am ready to take bets that none of the Reptilian candidates has a chance to beat Obama. As bad as the corporatist Obama is in my personal view, the Reptilians are so much worse and outright evil. All of them.

Imagine the Reptilians had been able to find one decent person, highly educated, with high moral standards, a humanitarian, not corrupt, with no dead bodies in the closet, no scandals to surface, no weird religious affiliation, no Tea Party nonsense, and no Libertarian crazyness like letting people burn to death in a burning house if they didn't pay for the fire department service plan! Then again, such person would not be a Republican, so that's a mute point indeed.

[mawilson 2,133]

The reason why Obama has nothing to fear a year from now is because the Reptilians have really been unable to find even one acceptable candidate among over 310,000,000 people. It just boggles the mind.

Keep telling yourself that, buddy. Obama's a goner.

[Captain Oates 910]

The reason why Obama has nothing to fear a year from now is because the Reptilians have really been unable to find even one acceptable candidate among over 310,000,000 people. It just boggles the mind.

I am ready to take bets that none of the Reptilian candidates has a chance to beat Obama. As bad as the corporatist Obama is in my personal view, the Reptilians are so much worse and outright evil. All of them.

Imagine the Reptilians had been able to find one decent person, highly educated, with high moral standards, a humanitarian, not corrupt, with no dead bodies in the closet, no scandals to surface, no weird religious affiliation, no Tea Party nonsense, and no Libertarian crazyness like letting people burn to death in a burning house if they didn't pay for the fire department service plan! Then again, such person would not be a Republican, so that's a mute point indeed.

Or perhaps I should become a repto and run..

oops (quote:Perry)-there would have to be an agreement on a constitutional change first because to run, you have to be a US first breather like manuel enrico in that shack across the river........

Last week's elections mean that the nonsense has had to stop and Obama could win by a landslide this time

Edited November 11, 2011 by Ashud Cocoa

[mawilson 2,133]

Last week's elections mean that the nonsense has had to stop and Obama could win by a landslide this time

Obama is viewed by many as a proponent of European style socialism. While job security,

short work weeks, long vacations and a strong welfare system may seem like a great idea,

Americans are not blind and can see what's happening in Europe - how countries like Greece

and Italy are collapsing under the weight of entitlement spending. All their supposedly

"free" things ("free" healthcare, "free" education, "free" housing) are not really free.

That's our future under President Obama.

Now in Obama vs Romney, who do you think has a better chance of winning the election -

a successful businessman who has a record of creating jobs or a socialist who destroys jobs?

[Captain Oates 910]

Obama is viewed by many as a proponent of European style socialism. While job security,

short work weeks, long vacations and a strong welfare system may seem like a great idea,

Americans are not blind and can see what's happening in Europe - how countries like Greece

and Italy are collapsing under the weight of entitlement spending. All their supposedly

"free" things ("free" healthcare, "free" education, "free" housing) are not really free.

That's our future under President Obama.

Now in Obama vs Romney, who do you think has a better chance of winning the election -

a successful businessman who has a record of creating jobs or a socialist who destroys jobs?

You are being selective in that the major countries are strong and the populations love their caring social programs and would never give them up for the 'let em die' ethos in the US

For instance the Conservative prime minister in the UK says he totally supports the socialized medicine of the National Health System and it is safe in his hands

The German and French systems are wonderful and better than the UK

AS this fog clears, the European countries like Germany /France/Holland/ and the Scandinavians will leave the USA further and further behind in education and health and life expectancy

The right wing are rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of the European economies collapsing - I am buying all the German stocks they are wiling to sell me. Siemens/ Bayer/Basf/Sap wonderful companies with highly skilled and healthy workers produced by enlightened social policies and not the mean policies of the US right who are wrecking their own country for profit and producing an ignorant and semi-literate population with a 'dog eat dog' attitude which is alright for coyotes but not for humans.

The French have four times as many doctors per head of population as the UK and its free.

I am retired but if I had to work and bring up a family and have their health looked after and trained to a very high standard - I would chose to live in Germany. .. and if my daughter was raped by an American republican nasty on holiday, she could get an abortion

If you need an example of the government poking its nose in and wrecking people's lives - look at the abortion laws in the confederacy - that is government involvement up inside the citizens body

Edited November 11, 2011 by Ashud Cocoa

[scandal 951]

Obama is viewed by many as a proponent of European style socialism.

Some may view him that way, but that doesn't make it so.

Obama is viewed by many as a proponent of European style socialism. While job security,

short work weeks, long vacations and a strong welfare system may seem like a great idea,

Americans are not blind and can see what's happening in Europe - how countries like Greece

and Italy are collapsing under the weight of entitlement spending. All their supposedly

"free" things ("free" healthcare, "free" education, "free" housing) are not really free.

That's our future under President Obama.

There are no mainstream American politicians in either party who support a 35 hour work week with guaranteed job security and an all inclusive cradle to grave safety net. America is just not that kind of country and it's only tea party rhetoric which claims that Democrats want to be that kind of country.

Now in Obama vs Romney, who do you think has a better chance of winning the election -

a successful businessman who has a record of creating jobs or a socialist who destroys jobs?

Wasn't Romney the guy who gave Massachusetts a compulsory healthcare plan which became the model for Obama's? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[mawilson 2,133]

Some may view him that way, but that doesn't make it so.

I agree, but perception is all that matters in elections.

[Captain Oates 910]

The socialized medicine countries don't have a compulsory health care scheme - its all free and there is no membership or contribution record

Romney's and Obama's schemes are private schemes and the opposite of socialized medicine,

That proves that Romney IS a conservative

and so is Obama

[mawilson 2,133]

That proves that Romney IS a conservative

and so is Obama

Sure, they are both Republican-Democrat regimers and big spenders.

Still, Romney is more likely to keep my taxes low and bring deficits back down to historical norms (3-5% of GDP instead of 10%).

[Captain Oates 910]

Sure, they are both Republican-Democrat regimers and big spenders.

Still, Romney is more likely to keep my taxes low and bring deficits back down to historical norms (3-5% of GDP instead of 10%).

Yes but you will be surrounded by slack jawed illiterates coming out of the 60-to-a-class schools and you wont have fireman and you will be holed up with your shotgun keeping the banditos out of your house on your own and the pollution and spilled oil and fracking will wreck your lungs and germs will spread unhindered by a government health czar and radiation will leak from plants unchecked by an EPA and planes will burn up when the FAA is dissolved and doesn't check em - and when you are old you will be put in the street to live in a hedge bottom in the city park with everyone else who voted for the dismantlement of civilization just so they could have lower taxes and so they could buy the latest iphone

The republicans know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Civilization and good government is an invaluable asset. African countries don't have it and we do - and we are talking about throwing it away ? To buy more guns/iphones/kardashian books with the smaller tax ?

We must be mad

[웃 910]

Keep telling yourself that, buddy. Obama's a goner.

Bottom line is the economy in 2008 and 2009 was the worst in 40 to 80 years. Basically a once in a century disaster of epic proportions.

Whether Saddam Habomb was president from 2000-2008 or anyone else - we would still be on the same boat - so I'm not totally blaming Bush.

However, Bush ran deficits every single year of his presidency when the 4 year momentum of surpluses was handed on a silver platter to him. He was scheduled for about $6 trillion in surpluses through 2010 if he stayed the course. I'll be extra lenient with the predictions and say it had a margin of error of $4 trillion (so he should have left us with at least $2 trillion MORE in tax revenue, minimum. To use for unforeseen economic crisis, war, or natural disaster relief (and all three happened at record levels).

He decided to follow Supply Side Jesus and get the budget on a fast track from surplus to deficit. And he was very good in doing that. And it turned out to be very bad financial planning for this country.

FY 2009, like every fiscal year, runs from OCT 1 2008 to SEP 30 2009. It was passed by Bush at a record $1.2 trillion (at the time). Anyone (including a random Saddam Habomb as president) would have passed a similar number.

You can see all the official documents at this link and here is Bush signing off on it:

Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit in 09 - and he inherited the worst economy in 40 to 80 years. In fact, he inherited the largest deficit in US history in 2009.

He's done a halfway decent job despite a do nothing Congress that would LOVE to see the economy crumble to depression levels so that they can blame Obama and get a landslide victory in 2012 (as they did in 2010).

I say facts side with blaming Bush on momentous deficit spending leading up to the mess...And fiction will side on blaming Obama.

[mawilson 2,133]

I say facts side with blaming Bush on momentous deficit spending leading up to the mess...And fiction will side on blaming Obama.

Americans will side with fiction in 2012 and dump Obama.

[mawilson 2,133]

Yes but you will be surrounded by slack jawed illiterates coming out of the 60-to-a-class schools and you wont have fireman and you will be holed up with your shotgun keeping the banditos out of your house on your own and the pollution and spilled oil and fracking will wreck your lungs and germs will spread unhindered by a government health czar and radiation will leak from plants unchecked by an EPA and planes will burn up when the FAA is dissolved and doesn't check em - and when you are old you will be put in the street to live in a hedge bottom in the city park with everyone else who voted for the dismantlement of civilization just so they could have lower taxes and so they could buy the latest iphone

The republicans know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

I don't think Romney is that crazy - the EPA and FAA are safe for now.

[Captain Oates 910]

Thing is that the companies are all doing great while the population isn't.

It isn't just that the companies are relocating offshore and for sure they are, (Transocean, a Swiss company, 4 employees in Switzerland, 10,000 in Houston), or that they are selling abroad, which they are, but other factors are very favorable for them - even UK supermarkets are doing great and they sell in the UK and pay tax in the UK

The factors are:

A you can get away with firing your employees or treating them like slaves and paying peanuts

and

B The cost of borrowing is a MAJOR cost for companies and right now its for nothing

So they run smaller but much more profitable businesses.

These 'job creators' are doing very well and could help out with revenue but oh no we cant do that

I spend 4 hours per day working on my stocks and options and they are doing great. Me and the companies I invest in pay little tax. Meanwhile the conservatives claim that a tiny increase in their tax to bring them up closer to what the workers pay, would drive them out of business

I mean a top executive at APPLE would give his job up and go back to bed if he had to pay 2% more tax ?

Who would believe that ? Plenty of people it seems..

[mawilson 2,133]

2% more tax would not be a huge deal for me or anyone else.

Obama keeps talking about "shared sacrifice", but he doesn't want Joe Middle Class to pay 2% more in taxes, even though the middle class is where the big bucks are, not the $200k+ crowd.