Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Alex+R

Spy Agencies Say Iraq War Worsens Terror Threat

166 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.

The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by United States intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began, and represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government. Titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,’’ it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, has metastasized and spread across the globe.

An opening section of the report, “Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement,” cites the Iraq war as a reason for the diffusion of jihad ideology.

The report “says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse,” said one American intelligence official.

(continues)

Source: NYTimes.com

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.

ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................


* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................

Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................

Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

maybe someday you'll understand that some things remain classified in order to protect sources and methods ;)


* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................

Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

maybe someday you'll understand that some things remain classified in order to protect sources and methods ;)

And some things are "leaked" and printed because they are in the public interest. Especially when they would otherwise be concealed to protect the government from dealing with a failing policy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................
Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

maybe someday you'll understand that some things remain classified in order to protect sources and methods ;)

And maybe one day you'll recognize that sometimes the obvious is kept classified because of politics. ;)

Edited by ET-US2004

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................
Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

maybe someday you'll understand that some things remain classified in order to protect sources and methods ;)

And maybe one day you'll recognize that sometimes the obvious is kept classified because of politics. ;)

ah yes, when it's kept classified, it's politics. when it's leaked, it's politics. amazing :rolleyes:


* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by United States intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began, and represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government. Titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,’’ it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, has metastasized and spread across the globe.

They must not have gotten the Veep's memo - over a year ago, they were in their last throes. Remember? :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And some things are "leaked" and printed because they are in the public interest. Especially when they would otherwise be concealed to protect the government from dealing with a failing policy.

So who is the NYT to decide this?? In numerous countries the NYT reporters and editors would probably be thrown into jail..

Edited by Infidel

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................
Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

maybe someday you'll understand that some things remain classified in order to protect sources and methods ;)

And maybe one day you'll recognize that sometimes the obvious is kept classified because of politics. ;)

ah yes, when it's kept classified, it's politics. when it's leaked, it's politics. amazing :rolleyes:

It's ALL politics ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................

Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

Well he does have a point. I'm sure you are all for boiling in oil Cheney and anyone else in the Bush administration for the Plame leak, so why is the NY Times leaking classified info no big deal to you.

To me that report is a fine grasp of the obvious. Tell me something I don't already know.

Edited by mdyoung

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................
Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

maybe someday you'll understand that some things remain classified in order to protect sources and methods ;)
And maybe one day you'll recognize that sometimes the obvious is kept classified because of politics. ;)
ah yes, when it's kept classified, it's politics. when it's leaked, it's politics. amazing :rolleyes:

The administartion keeps insisting that due to it's policies and actions, we're better off today from a safety and security point of view than we would be had we not invaded Iraq. Here's the government agencies that deal with assessing threat levels and risks saying the exact opposite. Don't you think the administration, seeing that they know this since April and keep claiming the opposite publicly, has political reasons to keep this one under wraps? They've been knowingly lying to the people yet again for the past few months. Not that I'd expect anything else from these thugs but there's the evidence and I believe in a free society, this is information of public interest.

Edited by ET-US2004

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.
ah yes, the nyt is busy printing classified again.................

Ah yes, charles is more concerned with the messenger than with the message yet again. The Iraq war is counter-productive in terms of making the US safer from terrorist threats. That's the message. Why that is still classified beats the ####### out of me: I've been saying this since March 2003.

Did you go to school with Rove by any chance? :whistle:

:yes::thumbs: You just have to keep screaming it above the rhetoric.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I'm sure you are all for boiling in oil Cheney and anyone else in the Bush administration for the Plame leak, so why is the NY Times leaking classified info no big deal to you.
You essentially answered this yourself:
To me that report is a fine grasp of the obvious.

It just makes it official. It also makes official that the administration has, again, been busy lying to the public about the actual results of their Iraq policy as it relates to the safety of this nation. ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hang on...people keep screaming how Iraq and terrorism were not connected, yet the occupation of Iraq has a direct effect on it?

Hrmmm....way to straddle that fence, boys...make sure you're all wearing your cups.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
- Back to Top -


Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×