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Hello, Im currently starting a K1 Visa but i have one question about the proof of ongoing relationship. My chatlogs skype alone is 186 pages and my yahoo log is about 100ish. Is that enough or its over kill? :) thanks. Also, what else should i print out for proof of ongoing relationship. Thanks.

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Porsche Boxster 2000

OIF 2008-2009

09/01/2008 - We met in a social site

04/8/2009 - We met

04/26/2009 - Left Philippines

12/8/2010 - Visited Philippines again

12/8/2010 - Got engaged!

03/10/2011 - Left Philippines

06/08/2011 - I 129f sent

06/12/2011 - I-129f received.

06/12/2011 - Routed to CSC

06/13/11 NOA1

06/17/11 NOA1 Touched

10/24/11 - Called USCIS Service Request

11/2/11 Retouch

11/2/11 APPROVED

11/5/11 Another NOA2 Notice?

11/8/11 Called NVC get my Case Number / Received.

11/14/11 Paid Interview Visa using BPI / No interview date due to slow website update!

11/16/11 Medical

12/1/11 Interview

12/1/11 - 221g - Need police clearance qatar. SIGH

12/4/11 Hired a P.R.O to do the police clearance in Qatar

12/29/ P.R.O Mailed the PCC to my fiance using DHL

1/3/12 Received PCC from QATAR, dog chewed it :(

1/4/12 Sent the taped PCC to USEM

1/6/12 USEM received 221g

2/14/12 - APPROVED happy valentines day!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: New Zealand
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yes...some people do send stacks of pages but I have just printed summaries of chat lists periodically and I have some emails printed that have special significance. We talk every day and chat as well. It amounts to thousands of communications but I have also printed where it shows chats as "60-200 of hundreds" as an example. Also if you have any cards that you have received(for birthday or just general etc) to you. If you wont be together again before your interview then you are somewhat limited to the above. If you will be together then you can have the photos together, hotel receipts showing both names, boarding passes etc. as you would for proof of having met within past 2 years.

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Mar 2011 - After 5mths denied for lost docs - Attempts to follow up failed. Mar 18 2012 - I-129F sent - No sign of NOA1 but they have banked the check...Jul 24 - Update - USCIS has located our file
Infopass Apt - they sorted through everything - our 2011 and 2012 file keep getting mixed up - getting us a Case# (still waiting) Dec- Infopass Appt- expecting to get a case # in about a week ..Still no Case number

Mar 2013 Infopass - advised file was in a box somewhere,and it would be quicker for us to refile. Life gets in the way... New petition submitted July 2014 .
I-129F Sent : Jul 28 2014
TSC received: Aug 04 2014
I-129F NOA1 : Aug 06 2014
I-129F NOA2 : Feb 25 2015 (NOA2 copy rcd: Mar 02)

Sent to NVC: Mar 09 / Left NVC Apr 1 / Arr Embassy Apr 7 / Pkt 3 Rcd Apr 15 / Medical Apr 17 / Pkt 3 sent May 1 / Interview May 12

Left NZ May 15

Married Aug 10

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Ethiopia
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Hello, Im currently starting a K1 Visa but i have one question about the proof of ongoing relationship. My chatlogs skype alone is 186 pages and my yahoo log is about 100ish. Is that enough or its over kill? :) thanks. Also, what else should i print out for proof of ongoing relationship. Thanks.

I think you dont have to print all. However you can open a separet folder for the emails from your fiance(e) and print the lists which shows the sender, subject and the date and time. You can use a print option from the file menu. But don't forget to print and include very important email which show a big decissions making discusson that you did with your fiance(e).


K-1 Time Line

Service Center:_California Service Center

Consulate: _Frankfurt, Germany

I-129F Sent: _2011-03-20

I-129F NOA1:_ 2011-03-30

I-129F NOA2:_2011-06-18

NVC Received: _2011-07-19

NVC Left:_2011-07-20

Consulate Received:_2011-07-25

Packet 3 Received: _2011-07-28

Packet 3 Sent: _2011-07-29

Packet 4 Received:_ 2011-08-09

Interview Date: _ 2011-08-24

Interview Result:_ Approved(After 3 weeks AP)

Visa Received:_2011-09-21

US Entry:_@ JFK 2011-11-16

Marriage: _2011-12-20

AOS, EAD, AP

Date Filed: _2012-02-07

NOA Date: _2012-02-13

Bio. Appt. Notice recieved_2012-02-17

Bio. Appt.:2012-03-12@ 8:00 AM in Columbus OH

Bio Done:2012-03-05 WALK IN- Columbus OH

State ID: 2012-03-05

DL Permit: 2012-03-08

AOS Transfer: 2012-03-14

AOS Touched @ USCIS: 2012-03-21

EAD/AP Approved & Card Producton: 2012-04-03

EAD/AP on Hand:2012-04-11

AOS_RFE: 2012-09-28

RFE Sent: 2012-11-09

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Brazil
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Also depends on the consulate. As you have no information regarding your beneficiary's country. It is hard to get a specific answer. Some countries are tougher than others. In some countries, the evidence was never looked at. In others, it wasn't enough. However, generally speaking, you have "MORE" than enough for chat and call logs. Do you have anything else such as passport stamps with multiple visits? Hotel receipts with both names on it? Pictures of you guys together over a period of time? Other things to consider also....

Good Luck


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Link for Rio de Janeiro Consulate's instructions for K1 Visas. They give you this link instead of a packet 3. Everything you need for interview in Rio is here. Boa Sorte

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I have pictures and receipts. Just wondering if my chat logs should be enough for the aditional on going relationship. Also i added that we have a bank account together in Philippines.


Porsche Boxster 2000

OIF 2008-2009

09/01/2008 - We met in a social site

04/8/2009 - We met

04/26/2009 - Left Philippines

12/8/2010 - Visited Philippines again

12/8/2010 - Got engaged!

03/10/2011 - Left Philippines

06/08/2011 - I 129f sent

06/12/2011 - I-129f received.

06/12/2011 - Routed to CSC

06/13/11 NOA1

06/17/11 NOA1 Touched

10/24/11 - Called USCIS Service Request

11/2/11 Retouch

11/2/11 APPROVED

11/5/11 Another NOA2 Notice?

11/8/11 Called NVC get my Case Number / Received.

11/14/11 Paid Interview Visa using BPI / No interview date due to slow website update!

11/16/11 Medical

12/1/11 Interview

12/1/11 - 221g - Need police clearance qatar. SIGH

12/4/11 Hired a P.R.O to do the police clearance in Qatar

12/29/ P.R.O Mailed the PCC to my fiance using DHL

1/3/12 Received PCC from QATAR, dog chewed it :(

1/4/12 Sent the taped PCC to USEM

1/6/12 USEM received 221g

2/14/12 - APPROVED happy valentines day!

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I have pictures and receipts. Just wondering if my chat logs should be enough for the aditional on going relationship. Also i added that we have a bank account together in Philippines.

A wise person told me that it was not necessary to have every piece of evidence, but rather samples of the evidence over time showing a timeline of ongoing relationship. However, we did take 24 pages of skype history over the course of a year and they never looked at it.

The same was true for pictures. 20 pictures over a weeks time isn't necessarily better than 4 pictures over the same time frame. But, if you have made multiple trips, then pictures from each of those trips shows secondary evidence of ongoing relation. Remember, photos can be altered.. Passport stamps from visits (make sure you copy ALL pages of your passport from front to back as they want to see if you are hiding anything), boarding passes from those trips, phone call logs over a period of time, emails over time, and the pics usually is sufficient to prove ongoing relation. Flight itineraries and ticket receipts are not considered primary evidence.

Don't know about the bank account. Never have read anyone going through K1 having a joint bank account at this stage.

OP, quick question. Where are you in the filing process? have you filed? NOA1? what date? etc.....

Edited by John & Mari

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."

K1 Guides and Info

K1 AOS Guide

Link for Rio de Janeiro Consulate's instructions for K1 Visas. They give you this link instead of a packet 3. Everything you need for interview in Rio is here. Boa Sorte

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Just preping the filing


Porsche Boxster 2000

OIF 2008-2009

09/01/2008 - We met in a social site

04/8/2009 - We met

04/26/2009 - Left Philippines

12/8/2010 - Visited Philippines again

12/8/2010 - Got engaged!

03/10/2011 - Left Philippines

06/08/2011 - I 129f sent

06/12/2011 - I-129f received.

06/12/2011 - Routed to CSC

06/13/11 NOA1

06/17/11 NOA1 Touched

10/24/11 - Called USCIS Service Request

11/2/11 Retouch

11/2/11 APPROVED

11/5/11 Another NOA2 Notice?

11/8/11 Called NVC get my Case Number / Received.

11/14/11 Paid Interview Visa using BPI / No interview date due to slow website update!

11/16/11 Medical

12/1/11 Interview

12/1/11 - 221g - Need police clearance qatar. SIGH

12/4/11 Hired a P.R.O to do the police clearance in Qatar

12/29/ P.R.O Mailed the PCC to my fiance using DHL

1/3/12 Received PCC from QATAR, dog chewed it :(

1/4/12 Sent the taped PCC to USEM

1/6/12 USEM received 221g

2/14/12 - APPROVED happy valentines day!

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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In terms of evidence of having met and an ongoing relationship, I believe it is more effective to present boarding passes, passport stamps, receipts for hotels with both names on it -- and photos with both of you together, to some degree.

We went through Manila, too, and I only presented my boarding passes, passport stamps, and six photos printed on a single 8x11 sheet of paper -- and the CO didn't even bother to look at that. I guess mileage varies, but hundreds of anything seems unnecessary.

It's early in the game to show a comingling of finances -- that's usually reserved for the Adjustment of Status back here in the States -- but I'd say it wouldn't hurt to show the shared account.

Just keep in mind that the hinge of the K-1 is 1) to prove you have visited her at least once in the last two years, and then 2) provide supporting evidence of a bona fide and ongoing relationship.

If all of your paperwork is straight and there are no glaring holes in your Affidavit of Support and back history, Manila is actually quite easy.

The day we had our interview we saw a large number of folks not get approved -- and it was nearly always due to a lack (or complete absence) of preparation. As in folks asking us as they went in to their interview what an Affidavit of Support is, or whether they'd be getting their green card as they left...they invariably came out either confused or with tears welling up in their eyes.

Have all the documentation you need, sort it nicely in a file, dress like you didn't roll out of bed five days ago, and put on a good poker face. Meaning, do what you can to turn the table in your favor, and then knock it out.

Our CO was so nice and unquestioning that we were shocked when he said we were approved. He had to say it twice to us before it sank in.

Good luck! Lot's of informed folks here, and the guides and threads will steer you well every step of the way.


17-Jan-10 - Filed K-1

26-Apr-10 - Approved

06-May-10 - Entered POE

24-May-10 - Married

22-Jul-10 - Filed AOS

24-Sep-10 - Biometrics Appointment

18-Nov-10 - Approved

29-Nov-10 - Received Green Card

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OK, so now the picture becomes clearer. It is not necessary at this time to provide ongoing relationship. That is at the interview stage. However, some people do send in this information with the I-129F application. Either way..... not needed though....

At this point, all that is necessary is that you prove that you have met in person within 2 years of filing application. If you have been married before, you will send in copies of original divorce decrees, letters of intent to marry, G-325's etc.......

This is a 2 step process. STEP#1 I-129F.... accepted at USCIS=NOA1.... once approved=NOA2...sent to NVC you get a new case# then forwarded to consulate where the beneficiary is now allowed to (STEP#2) file the forms necessary for K1. This is when the "bonafide relation" evidence is needed.

Please see the links on my signature and go through the flowchart of K1 from K1 guides and info.... It will help you greatly. You are stressing over over information that is not really needed right now. You have a couple of months to get that part together. My advice would be to focus on what is needed for the I-129F application first.

Good Luck

Edited by John & Mari

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."

K1 Guides and Info

K1 AOS Guide

Link for Rio de Janeiro Consulate's instructions for K1 Visas. They give you this link instead of a packet 3. Everything you need for interview in Rio is here. Boa Sorte

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whats the address i should send this packet to?


Porsche Boxster 2000

OIF 2008-2009

09/01/2008 - We met in a social site

04/8/2009 - We met

04/26/2009 - Left Philippines

12/8/2010 - Visited Philippines again

12/8/2010 - Got engaged!

03/10/2011 - Left Philippines

06/08/2011 - I 129f sent

06/12/2011 - I-129f received.

06/12/2011 - Routed to CSC

06/13/11 NOA1

06/17/11 NOA1 Touched

10/24/11 - Called USCIS Service Request

11/2/11 Retouch

11/2/11 APPROVED

11/5/11 Another NOA2 Notice?

11/8/11 Called NVC get my Case Number / Received.

11/14/11 Paid Interview Visa using BPI / No interview date due to slow website update!

11/16/11 Medical

12/1/11 Interview

12/1/11 - 221g - Need police clearance qatar. SIGH

12/4/11 Hired a P.R.O to do the police clearance in Qatar

12/29/ P.R.O Mailed the PCC to my fiance using DHL

1/3/12 Received PCC from QATAR, dog chewed it :(

1/4/12 Sent the taped PCC to USEM

1/6/12 USEM received 221g

2/14/12 - APPROVED happy valentines day!

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