Can Joint Sponsor send I-864 electronically?

[harry1 0]

According to NVC's joint sponsor documents checklist:

IF you filed US taxes, you MUST submit a copy of your most recent federal income tax return with all supporting schedules and/or W-2s or an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) transcript, even if the sponsor filed electronically.

All pages of the tax return must be stapled together in the correct order

If you did not have to file a tax return, attach a written explanation and a copy of the IRS publication showing that you were not obliged to file.

For general information on income tax obligations, or to request IRS-generated transcripts or copies of a tax return visit the IRS website.

I and my wife are going to file electronically. But above instruction seems to ask the joint sponsor to file the real paper. Anybody has similar experience to share?

Thank you very much in advance.

[pushbrk 12,139]

According to NVC's joint sponsor documents checklist:

IF you filed US taxes, you MUST submit a copy of your most recent federal income tax return with all supporting schedules and/or W-2s or an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) transcript, even if the sponsor filed electronically.

All pages of the tax return must be stapled together in the correct order

If you did not have to file a tax return, attach a written explanation and a copy of the IRS publication showing that you were not obliged to file.

For general information on income tax obligations, or to request IRS-generated transcripts or copies of a tax return visit the IRS website.

I and my wife are going to file electronically. But above instruction seems to ask the joint sponsor to file the real paper. Anybody has similar experience to share?

Thank you very much in advance.

If you're doing electronic processing at the NVC stage, everything can go in by email. Then, everything that went in by email will need to be carried, on paper, to the interview. Email to NVC and then mail or deliver to the foreign spouse to carry to the interview.

[harry1 0]

Thank you for your kind reply.

My question is for my joint sponsor, a friend of mine who does not live in my state.

If he does not have to file electronically, I would like him to file through regular mail, for his convenience.

But from the NVC instruction, I don't know what he, as a joint sponsor, HAVE to do, because it seems to ask joint sponsor to send in paper.

If this is the case, then it is different than its electronic processing instruction, which requires to send in ALL documents through email.

(IF you filed US taxes, you MUST submit a copy of your most recent federal income tax return with all supporting schedules and/or W-2s or an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) transcript, even if the sponsor filed electronically.

All pages of the tax return must be stapled together in the correct order

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If you're doing electronic processing at the NVC stage, everything can go in by email. Then, everything that went in by email will need to be carried, on paper, to the interview. Email to NVC and then mail or deliver to the foreign spouse to carry to the interview.

Edited May 23, 2011 by harry1

[dan_ling 6]

Your sponsor should mail his returns to you and you scan them in PDF format and send all together in an email. You need to look up joint sponsor to see if your friend is elligible!

[harry1 0]

Really? I am afraid that sending to me would invade his privacy. He is very qualified, in terms of income level. He is US citizen. Whatelse could make him not eligible?

Your sponsor should mail his returns to you and you scan them in PDF format and send all together in an email. You need to look up joint sponsor to see if your friend is elligible!

[pushbrk 12,139]

Really? I am afraid that sending to me would invade his privacy. He is very qualified, in terms of income level. He is US citizen. Whatelse could make him not eligible?

Sounds like he's eligible. For electronic processing, everything goes to NVC by email. Both your I-864 with its supporting documents and his with his supporting documents should go in the same email. Anytime you read "send a copy" and are using electronic processing, it means email it and carry the actual paper to the interview. For a CR1 or IR1 visa, there really is no way to do electronic processing AND keep the petitioner and beneficiary from seeing the joint sponsor's affidavit except to have the joint sponsor do the emailing and then send both affidavits and document in a sealed envelope to the beneficiary. Even then, there's no guarantee the beneficiary won't open the sealed envelope. If your joint sponsor doesn't want you to see his financial data, you'll need to skip the electronic filing at NVC and do it all on paper.

[pushbrk 12,139]

You could get creative and ask your joint sponsor to take his stack of financial papers to someplace like Kinko's, Office Depot or maybe a UPS store. He can ask the to scan them to a single PDF file for him and then email that PDF to nvcelectronic@state.gov FOR him. He then could mail the stack directly to the Consulate in Guangzhou to be added to the paper file.

[Darnell 8,478]

Can Joint Sponsor send I-864 electronically?

no, alas.

Document collection at NVC is between 2 people and the NVC -

The foreign spouse, the USCitizen Spouse, and that's it.

The email addresses are COLLECTED at NVC for NVC Electronic Processing with the OPT IN email, so when a 3rd party sends in an email, the email address THEY use is not tagged at NVC for part of the NVC EP intake, it's never auto-tagged to be added to the caseile. HE cannot send in anything via postal mail, it flips the casefile back to 'paper processing' mode (please read the NVC Guidelines about it, soonish?)

Really? I am afraid that sending to me would invade his privacy. He is very qualified, in terms of income level.

So have him sign a non-discloure statement with you, lifespan of 5 years. Get two sets notarized, you keep one, he keeps the other.

Edited May 23, 2011 by Darnell

[harry1 0]

If the joint sponsor can send through email, I think he should be able to make a pfd file.

It's just not clear from reading NVC instruction that if he is required to send in paper.

I will ask NVC when I call to give them email addresses, but the person at the other end of the line may not know better than people at VJ, I am afraid:)

You could get creative and ask your joint sponsor to take his stack of financial papers to someplace like Kinko's, Office Depot or maybe a UPS store. He can ask the to scan them to a single PDF file for him and then email that PDF to nvcelectronic@state.gov FOR him. He then could mail the stack directly to the Consulate in Guangzhou to be added to the paper file.

[Darnell 8,478]

He then could mail the stack directly to the Consulate in Guangzhou to be added to the paper file.

GUZ IV will throw it away, I-864s are shown on document collection day, face to face, given by beneficiary to a clerk.

[Darnell 8,478]

It's just not clear from reading NVC instruction that if he is required to send in paper.

The instructions online at state.gov cover paper processing/intake. Only.

There is SCANT info on NVC EP at http://travel.state.gov/visa/visa_5162.html (note it no longer covers Guangzhou)

but - here's a thought !

inquire if yer co-sponser has computer skills. If he does, ask yer wife to make HIM the designated agent of choice on the DS-3032 form.

[harry1 0]

It seems my question is a difficult one, because there is no consensus yet:(

Can Joint Sponsor send I-864 electronically?

no, alas.

Document collection at NVC is between 2 people and the NVC -

The foreign spouse, the USCitizen Spouse, and that's it.

The email addresses are COLLECTED at NVC for NVC Electronic Processing with the OPT IN email, so when a 3rd party sends in an email, the email address THEY use is not tagged at NVC for part of the NVC EP intake, it's never auto-tagged to be added to the caseile. HE cannot send in anything via postal mail, it flips the casefile back to 'paper processing' mode (please read the NVC Guidelines about it, soonish?)

So have him sign a non-discloure statement with you, lifespan of 5 years. Get two sets notarized, you keep one, he keeps the other.

[Darnell 8,478]

you need a consensus, or you need the answer from the SME on China?

choose, quickly

[harry1 0]

Him as choice of agent? Creative one, but I am afraid that it would put more work load on my friend, which is not what I want to see.

I will check that link again, thanks.

The instructions online at state.gov cover paper processing/intake. Only.

There is SCANT info on NVC EP at http://travel.state.gov/visa/visa_5162.html (note it no longer covers Guangzhou)

but - here's a thought !

inquire if yer co-sponser has computer skills. If he does, ask yer wife to make HIM the designated agent of choice on the DS-3032 form.

[Darnell 8,478]

suggest you call into the high school in the next hour or so, inquire at the front office about the IT instructor, find a teenager to help you, pay wages to get it done, before school officially 'lets out' for the summer and the IT Instructor ain't reachable.

Edited May 23, 2011 by Darnell