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These people butchered seven human beings in response to a book being burned. If that isn't uncivilized and barbaric then I don't know what is.

Our extremists burn books..... their extremists behead people.

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The murderers are 100% responsible for the murders. The pastor is 100% responsible for deliberately provoking a climate of outrage. He could not have known that people would die as a result of that outrage, but he did know that his actions were provocative; that is the only reason that he did it. I personally would not go around cocking snoots at fanatics to make a point unless that point could not be made in any other way and not making it would cause more harm, would you?

Our extremists burn books..... their extremists behead people.

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'Our' extremists do a lot more than burn books, they murder Doctors in churches. They murder policemen and shoppers, they murder politicians, they murder women and children.

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It's called "accountability for ones actions".

Indeed - and I ask only that you hold a white, Christian American to the same level of accountability with which you so rabidly condemn those nasty Muslim savages.

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The murderers are 100% responsible for the murders. The pastor is 100% responsible for deliberately provoking a climate of outrage. He could not have known that people would die as a result of that outrage, but he did know that his actions were provocative; that is the only reason that he did it. I personally would not go around cocking snoots at fanatics to make a point unless that point could not be made in any other way and not making it would cause more harm, would you?

'Our' extremists do a lot more than burn books, they murder Doctors in churches. They murder policemen and shoppers, they murder politicians, they murder women and children.

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He most certainly knew the outcome would be violent.

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The murderers are 100% responsible for the murders. The pastor is 100% responsible for deliberately provoking a climate of outrage. He could not have known that people would die as a result of that outrage, but he did know that his actions were provocative; that is the only reason that he did it. I personally would not go around cocking snoots at fanatics to make a point unless that point could not be made in any other way and not making it would cause more harm, would you?

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But I will add: "could not have known that people would die" - maybe. But we would be doing a disservice to the good pastor to suggest that he could not have known that people could die, having seen last September the consequences of the mere threat of his recent actions.

We need to be very specific here: to project any undue degree of ignorance onto Terry Jones - to brand him an "idiot" or a "fool" - is to excuse him of intent. And it is in his intent - in his far from foolish appreciation of the volatile political climate and the likely reverberations of so provocative an act - that we find moral parity with the Afghan aggressors.

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Indeed - and I ask only that you hold a white, Christian American to the same level of accountability with which you so rabidly condemn those nasty Muslim savages.

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There are six things which Jehovah hates; in fact, seven which are an abomination to Him: Arrogant eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood (homicide); a heart that devises evil conspiracies, feet that run rapidly to evil, a false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers (Prov. 6:16–19).

Christians and Muslims who understand the tenants of their respective faiths should condemn all the actors in this horrific tragedy.

Unfortunately the folks in Florida were too busy burning books to read their own.

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Time for third world Muslims to worry less about what some hick pastor in the US does, and worry more about how their own governments have been screwing them. Seems to me, there is no way some goat herder in the middle of nowhere would care jack about this unless they are being distracted away from more local concerns.

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Time for third world Muslims to worry less about what some hick pastor in the US does, and worry more about how their own governments have been screwing them. Seems to me, there is no way some goat herder in the middle of nowhere would care jack about this unless they are being distracted away from more local concerns.

Welcome to MTV USA 2011. In the MTV world they don't put the blame on the animals that brutally beat to death seven human beings, they blame some shmuck pastor in Florida for burning a religious book. It's the same crowd that sue's McDonalds for hot coffee. Accountability isn't an issue with the MTV USA crowd, being politically correct is these days is.

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Welcome to MTV USA 2011. In the MTV world they don't put the blame on the animals that brutally beat to death seven human beings, they blame some shmuck pastor in Florida for burning a religious book. It's the same crowd that sue's McDonalds for hot coffee. Accountability isn't an issue with the MTV USA crowd, being politically correct is these days is.

Who is it that is not blaming the murderers for the murders? They are absolutely to blame, they did it, they should not have reacted to the burning of this book in that way but they did and they should be held accountable.

However to simply ignore the Pastor's part in this issue is ridiculous. His actions were the catalyst for the murders, or are you suggesting that in fact these murders would have taken place if the Pastor had not indulged in his book burning activities? That does not make the Pastor guilty of murder but it does make him guilty of inciting hatred which seems a far cry from what I understand the role of the Pastor is or should be.

Personally, I don't place undue value on symbols of any kind, but plenty of people do, right here in the USA. If one threatened to publicly burn a US flag and invited the media to the event what do you suppose the public reaction would be? Would everyone ignore it as just a silly little flag burning, no big deal? Or would ignoring the public burning of a US flag be too pc, too librul?

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Flag burnings in the U.S. are often. No one goes into a rampage over it.

That's because of a few reasons...the main ones being that the US is in the year 2011, and peeps here wouldn't let the Muslims here get away with anything like that.

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Maybe patriotic Americans have that thick skin gene.

They're just smarter. It takes some level of intelligence to realize that the borderline-anorexic dude in black who burned the U.S. flag is still the same inconsequential loser he was before he burned the flag.

 

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