US Embassy in Manila DNA

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

We have a somewhat unique situation and are sure that the Embassy will want DNA results.

We are hoping that we might be able to provide the DNA results prior to or at the interview. If someone can point us in the right direction we'd be most grateful.

Since I don't like cryptic topic lacking any relevant details I'll share the cliff notes of our situation.

3 years before Gabby was born Anna had a pregnancy that ended with a stillbirth at 8 months.

Just this week we found out that was not the case. It turns out the father's family paid-off the delivery staff to fake the stillbirth!

The father's Mom & Aunt have reached out tot Anna and asked if she would be interested in claiming her first son as they feel the father & his wife are mistreating the poor little guy.

Of course neither of us hesitated and are now beginning to gather the paperwork needed to correct his birth certificate, get him to her Mom & file to bring him to the US.

Naturally the Embassy & probably USCIS are going to be extra critical of this because in the filing for Anna & Gabby we had indicate that Gabby was her only child (as we believed that at the time).

We plan to present both the original (false) birth certificate and the corrected one to USCIS with the original petition and are hoping the Mom & Aunt of the father will provide affidavits of what happened to support our claim.

Since the Philippines is considered a High Fraud Country (and I've heard of people faking documents attempting to bring cousins, nieces/nephews or even siblings to the US) we're trying to be as ready as possible and want to introduce DNA results as soon in the process as possible.

Any info would be appreciated.

[Markieboy 104]

Wow, I'm sorry to hear your situation. What a shock to both you and Anna.

Here's more information regarding DNA testing from USEM, if you haven't read this already.

We'll keep both of you in our thoughts and prayers during this difficult situation.

Edited March 18, 2011 by Markieboy

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Wow is all I can say as we've researched this issue...

The DNA company has advised us to not send DNA results before the USEM requests it.

Anna has spent a lot of time on the phone with the father's Mom. Apparently the father told his family that Anna abandoned the baby! They as a family got together and fixed things so that they wouldn't have too much trouble raising him without Anna. Now the Mom (of the father) has discovered that the child is being mistreated so the family has thrown the father to the curb and her sisters are now caring for the child. She reached out to Anna in hopes that Anna has matured and wants her child.

The father's family has offered to provide affidavits to corroborate our story if we are asked for it along the way.

For the first time in his life the boy got to speak to his Mommy on the phone today. He is excited to come to America and live with his Mom & little brother!

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[BJZags 17]

Bob, I'm sure there is a totally separate procedure you'll have to go through in the Filipino Court system to "prove" parentage and refute the current birth certificate. I'd image the family courts in the Philippines will take at face-value the mother/father that are written on the birth certificate, and changing this would likely take some doing. Could you give us a thumb-nail version of that process?

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Bob, I'm sure there is a totally separate procedure you'll have to go through in the Filipino Court system to "prove" parentage and refute the current birth certificate. I'd image the family courts in the Philippines will take at face-value the mother/father that are written on the birth certificate, and changing this would likely take some doing. Could you give us a thumb-nail version of that process?

Actually we just need to get the birth certificate corrected. In one place it lists my wife as having the last name of the father (which implies they were married) but everywhere else it lists her proper maiden name and the father even signed on the back to claim parentage of a child born out of wedlock.

We are fortunate that they didn't monkey around with the birth certificate too much.

[adiiann 163]

Wow.... that's a kind of story I just watched in Philippine Telenovela. But I guess its a long way to go. Probably some battles to fight. But then, I wish good luck guys! I hope you will have things fix without so much problems. The kid shouldn't suffer from older people consequences.

[Patrick808 0]

I'm not sure if I can word my thoughts correctly, but I'm trying to be helpful.

Have you thought about doing the DNA test for yourself, before filing any petitions with the USCIS.

If you believe that your father in law is capable of a still birth scheme, are you positive he's not masterminding immigration fraud now, instead?

In the best case, you would only need one set of tests with you being able to preview the results before sending it to the USCIS, (when requested.)

Aloha.

We have a somewhat unique situation and are sure that the Embassy will want DNA results.

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Any info would be appreciated.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Have you thought about doing the DNA test for yourself, before filing any petitions with the USCIS.

If you believe that your father in law is capable of a still birth scheme, are you positive he's not masterminding immigration fraud now, instead?

In the best case, you would only need one set of tests with you being able to preview the results before sending it to the USCIS, (when requested.)

Aloha.

Just to clarify, when I say father I'm talking about the little boy's biological father. His family would gain nothing by us bringing the boy to the US. They are aware of the possibility of the Embassy requesting DNA.

Our original plan was to go ahead with the DNA testing but when we contacted the company used by the Embassy they suggested we wait for the interview as the Embassy won't accept results that we bring regardless of where we get the test done.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Just to update everyone:

Yesterday we mailed the I-130 Petition for Gabby's big brother, Carlo!

Here's to hoping that we have a normal USCIS Petition process on this case.

[rheanick 42]

Just to update everyone:

Yesterday we mailed the I-130 Petition for Gabby's big brother, Carlo!

Here's to hoping that we have a normal USCIS Petition process on this case.

This is a stupid question, mainly not really knowing the system...

This is what i know, the DNA is asked to confirm that the USC is the father of the philippines-born baby.

With your case, the kid is acknowledge as Anna's child in the petition. So, where would a DNA testing be needed when Anna already acknowledge that she is the mother of the child under petition. Being repetitive here. And Anna is not a USC.

There is an important missing link in the process... maybe because im not aware of it.

[Haarp425 26]

I would go ahead and have the child tested for DNA match for peace of mind. What would happen if you have prepared for those documents and waited for so long and when DNA test is actually required and there is no match?

The child and mother should have the same Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). A male child gets both Y-DNA marker (father) and mtDNA marker (mother) while a female child gets only the mtDNA marker(mother).

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

I would go ahead and have the child tested for DNA match for peace of mind. What would happen if you have prepared for those documents and waited for so long and when DNA test is actually required and there is no match?

I have peace of mind in regards to him being her child. Reasons why:

• I trust my wife.
• The birth certificate jives with the time frame of the child she thought was still born.
• Carlo & Gabby look like twins.
• The biological father's family stands to gain nothing and in fact risk losing Carlo after the process is done.

If the USEM would accept a DNA test from the same lab just ordered before they request it then we'd do it just to be ready for their request but they won't so the money would be wasted.

[annaprice 17]

because when we were doing mine and gabby's paperworks i did not indicate that i have carlo, which that time I didn't know that he is alive. So we are kinda worried that embassy would want a proof that I am the real mom, not carlo's aunt or cousin. Sorry i know It's confusing.

This is a stupid question, mainly not really knowing the system...

This is what i know, the DNA is asked to confirm that the USC is the father of the philippines-born baby.

With your case, the kid is acknowledge as Anna's child in the petition. So, where would a DNA testing be needed when Anna already acknowledge that she is the mother of the child under petition. Being repetitive here. And Anna is not a USC.

There is an important missing link in the process... maybe because im not aware of it.

[Ricashen1234 0]

Hello.. hope anyone here can answer to my questions. DO you know how long the CRBA will set an appointment for my Son's DNA samples? I had my samples collected already here in Canada. I saw on my dna profile it shows there the dna kit was sent to manila us embassy oct 31. It is been 2 weeks now, they hasn't contact us for my son's test yet.

THANKS.