Americans Support Racial Profiling

[Ban Hammer 14,196]

That is why a minority group member bothering a white person is not the same as the opposite; the insult is not loaded with potential for oppression.

ok you go live in say.....harlem when you move to ny city

[Traviesa 0]

And I'll add a PS to that-as a white person living in a predominantly black area, you have NO IDEA what I have experienced. Being called names or looked out funny would have been 100% better than the street gang terror I grew up with.

[Alex+R 0]

enjoy a higher standard of living than other groups, etc.

pardon me for working for the past 26 years then with only a 1.5 month break total between jobs

Whoa there. What are you implying, Charles?

And I'll add a PS to that-as a white person living in a predominantly black area, you have NO IDEA what I have experienced. Being called names or looked out funny would have been 100% better than the street gang terror I grew up with.

First of all, your list of counties that are predominantly black: what was the point?

I'm sure your experience was rough, and I have no interest in minimizing that. I'm sincerely sorry if your formative years were not good. It could have been a MORE PAINFUL experience than others have. But it's not THE SAME. That's all I was saying.

edit: typo

Edited September 1, 2006 by Alex+R

[Traviesa 0]

The point: you claim that these places where a minority is the majority do not exist, or exist in such small numbers to where they don't count. I'm showing you that they do, and each of the counties listed encompass multiple cities. So your white man is always the majority claim is not flying with me.

[Alex+R 0]

That is why a minority group member bothering a white person is not the same as the opposite; the insult is not loaded with potential for oppression.

ok you go live in say.....harlem when you move to ny city

I lived on the border of it when I was a kid. Does that count?

[Ban Hammer 14,196]

enjoy a higher standard of living than other groups, etc.

pardon me for working for the past 26 years then with only a 1.5 month break total between jobs

Whoa there. What are you implying, Charles?

i'd like to think my standard of living is related to me working, not because i'm "a white guy"

[Alex+R 0]

The point: you claim that these places where a minority is the majority do not exist, or exist in such small numbers to where they don't count. I'm showing you that they do, and each of the counties listed encompass multiple cities. So your white man is always the majority claim is not flying with me.

I'm confused. I never claimed that. I think you misread.

[Traviesa 0]

enjoy a higher standard of living than other groups, etc.

pardon me for working for the past 26 years then with only a 1.5 month break total between jobs

Whoa there. What are you implying, Charles?

i'd like to think my standard of living is related to me working, not because i'm "a white guy"

I would hope so too-considering at my last job, my coworker with the same job title was a black man who made more than me for doing the exact same job.

[Alex+R 0]

enjoy a higher standard of living than other groups, etc.

pardon me for working for the past 26 years then with only a 1.5 month break total between jobs

Whoa there. What are you implying, Charles?

i'd like to think my standard of living is related to me working, not because i'm "a white guy"

Sure, it's not "because you're a white guy" entirely. But ignoring that aspect of your success completely assumes that all groups start out on an even playing field. If you believe THAT then there's no argument I can make that you'll agree with.

[Ban Hammer 14,196]

The point: you claim that these places where a minority is the majority do not exist, or exist in such small numbers to where they don't count. I'm showing you that they do, and each of the counties listed encompass multiple cities. So your white man is always the majority claim is not flying with me.

I'm confused. I never claimed that. I think you misread.

Just because there are fewer white people in an area does not mean they have experienced what it's like to be, say, black in a predominantly white area.

that clear things up?

[Alex+R 0]

The point: you claim that these places where a minority is the majority do not exist, or exist in such small numbers to where they don't count. I'm showing you that they do, and each of the counties listed encompass multiple cities. So your white man is always the majority claim is not flying with me.

I'm confused. I never claimed that. I think you misread.

Just because there are fewer white people in an area does not mean they have experienced what it's like to be, say, black in a predominantly white area.

that clear things up?

Um, no.

[Ban Hammer 14,196]

Sure, it's not "because you're a white guy" entirely.

but there your post leaves some room for that having an effect.

But ignoring that aspect of your success completely assumes that all groups start out on an even playing field.

let's see. mandatory schooling for everyone don't count?

If you believe THAT then there's no argument I can make that you'll agree with.

probably true, as "all men are created equal" you do remember that, don't you?

[Alex+R 0]

probably true, as "all men are created equal" you do remember that, don't you?

Sure, all people are created equal. All home environments aren't, however.

My parents have advanced degrees. I grew up in a home that valued education, reading, vocabulary, and what do you know, I got a stellar SAT score.

Which they say is more an indicator of your economic background than your intelligence...

[Ban Hammer 14,196]

probably true, as "all men are created equal" you do remember that, don't you?

Sure, all people are created equal. All home environments aren't, however.

My parents have advanced degrees. I grew up in a home that valued education, reading, vocabulary, and what do you know, I got a stellar SAT score.

Which they say is more an indicator of your economic background than your intelligence...

so if you really felt empathy for someone who is disadvantaged you should have traded places with one of these random people at an early age. or is it that now that you got yours, you can bang on the drums about such and feel better?

[garya505 2]

probably true, as "all men are created equal" you do remember that, don't you?

Sure, all people are created equal. All home environments aren't, however.

My parents have advanced degrees. I grew up in a home that valued education, reading, vocabulary, and what do you know, I got a stellar SAT score.

Which they say is more an indicator of your economic background than your intelligence...

Hmmm, probably both.