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Hey folks,

We are still struggling to get all of this DS-230 paperwork done and it's all about getting the Police certificates right.

So, wife travels far and near to get police certificates from NBI, CDO and her home town...all the places she's lived in the Philippines. They look good.

Then I stumble across the "new and improved" USEM website tonight, and they have further, specific, clarification of what they want on a police certificate. They want a certificate for my wife's maiden name and her married name. Now, my question is...for the 2 cities she's lived in...it lists her new married name. So, she has to go back and get additional certificates under her maiden name as well? If I read the embassy web site correctly, it sounds like she does.

Also, the NBI certificate she got includes her married and maiden names, but it's really complicated and uses Spanish notatation...like this:

Bismanos de Smith, Rowena y Clarita

Her maiden name (these names are totally fictitious, btw), would be Rowena Bismanos...married to me Joe Smith.

NBI seems to cover the maiden name requirement, but correct me if I'm wrong....like I said, I'm not sure about her other city police certificates. Any help would be appreciated.


ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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Hey folks,

We are still struggling to get all of this DS-230 paperwork done and it's all about getting the Police certificates right.

So, wife travels far and near to get police certificates from NBI, CDO and her home town...all the places she's lived in the Philippines. They look good.

Then I stumble across the "new and improved" USEM website tonight, and they have further, specific, clarification of what they want on a police certificate. They want a certificate for my wife's maiden name and her married name. Now, my question is...for the 2 cities she's lived in...it lists her new married name. So, she has to go back and get additional certificates under her maiden name as well? If I read the embassy web site correctly, it sounds like she does.

Also, the NBI certificate she got includes her married and maiden names, but it's really complicated and uses Spanish notatation...like this:

Bismanos de Smith, Rowena y Clarita

Her maiden name (these names are totally fictitious, btw), would be Rowena Bismanos...married to me Joe Smith.

NBI seems to cover the maiden name requirement, but correct me if I'm wrong....like I said, I'm not sure about her other city police certificates. Any help would be appreciated.

Oh, and there is one more question...my wifes NBI uses the magic phrase "No record on file"...meaning that they have no record of her at all in their system. If it says anything else, like "No criminal conviction" or "No derogatory record on file", she has to get a letter of explanation from them to explain why they have something on her.

But, for her CDO and hometown records, it shows "No derogatory record on file" on one and "No criminal conviction" on the other. Do they use the same system as the NBI? Does this mean they have something in their records on her or is their language different from the NBI?


ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I thought my fiancee only needed to get NBI clearance for the Philippines, and then Police Clearance papers for any other countries she lived in for more than 6 months. I didn't know you needed police clearance for each place she lived in the Philippines. Are you sure about this?

-James


James and Cynthia

08-22-2008 - Met my wonderful wife in the Philippines.
03-21-2010 - I proposed to her in the Philippines.
09-07-2010 - I-129F filed for K-1 Visa.
09-12-2010 - NOA1 confirmation email received.
11-02-2010 - I visitied the Philippines again.

02-07-2011 - NOA2 email recieved. Approved.
03-22-2011 - Case at USEM.

04-15-2011 - Interview Date. She passed.
05-01-2011 - POE

06-25-2011 - We were married.

-Life has been great ever since.

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I thought my fiancee only needed to get NBI clearance for the Philippines, and then Police Clearance papers for any other countries she lived in for more than 6 months. I didn't know you needed police clearance for each place she lived in the Philippines. Are you sure about this?

-James

Yep...here it is:

NVC DS-230 Requirements

Note these two parts in the table...you need to obtain a police clearance if:

1) have been living in your country of nationality at their current residence for more than 6 months

you are 16 years old or older

2) lived in a different part of your country of nationality for more than 6 months

you are 16 years old or older

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ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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I believe James and Cynthia are correct. It is my understanding that NBI record is on national level, not local.


April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Yep...here it is:

NVC DS-230 Requirements

Note these two parts in the table...you need to obtain a police clearance if:

Are you sure that applies to the US embassy in the Philippines? I am sure I read that if she lived in another country for more than six months, she needed a police clearance. I've heard this more than once. But the link you gave says 12 months in another country. I have seen other cases where that website is wrong.

-James


James and Cynthia

08-22-2008 - Met my wonderful wife in the Philippines.
03-21-2010 - I proposed to her in the Philippines.
09-07-2010 - I-129F filed for K-1 Visa.
09-12-2010 - NOA1 confirmation email received.
11-02-2010 - I visitied the Philippines again.

02-07-2011 - NOA2 email recieved. Approved.
03-22-2011 - Case at USEM.

04-15-2011 - Interview Date. She passed.
05-01-2011 - POE

06-25-2011 - We were married.

-Life has been great ever since.

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I think getting record from each place applies to areas where records are kept locally or regionally, like the United States. There is not a national database on crimes. NBI has a national database.


April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Are you sure that applies to the US embassy in the Philippines? I am sure I read that if she lived in another country for more than six months, she needed a police clearance. I've heard this more than once. But the link you gave says 12 months in another country. I have seen other cases where that website is wrong.

-James

Yeah, I'm sure. That link I gave you applies to the applicant for the visa...your wife. This is in addition to the NBI clearance. Basically, anywhere your wife has lived...including in her own country, over 6 months, she needs a police clearance from the local police. I've read numerous threads about that here on VJ as well. The "country of nationality" phrase at the NVC site is pretty clear.

I think getting record from each place applies to areas where records are kept locally or regionally, like the United States. There is not a national database on crimes. NBI has a national database.

Again, read that table..."country of nationality" is not ambiguous...and read the threads here at VJ on the topic...it is required.


ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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Yeah, I'm sure. That link I gave you applies to the applicant for the visa...your wife. This is in addition to the NBI clearance. Basically, anywhere your wife has lived...including in her own country, over 6 months, she needs a police clearance from the local police. I've read numerous threads about that here on VJ as well. The "country of nationality" phrase at the NVC site is pretty clear.

Again, read that table..."country of nationality" is not ambiguous...and read the threads here at VJ on the topic...it is required.

Can you give a link to a personal experience from someone in the Philippines that needed this? If so, I would like to read it. Thanks.

-James


James and Cynthia

08-22-2008 - Met my wonderful wife in the Philippines.
03-21-2010 - I proposed to her in the Philippines.
09-07-2010 - I-129F filed for K-1 Visa.
09-12-2010 - NOA1 confirmation email received.
11-02-2010 - I visitied the Philippines again.

02-07-2011 - NOA2 email recieved. Approved.
03-22-2011 - Case at USEM.

04-15-2011 - Interview Date. She passed.
05-01-2011 - POE

06-25-2011 - We were married.

-Life has been great ever since.

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I think getting record from each place applies to areas where records are kept locally or regionally, like the United States. There is not a national database on crimes. NBI has a national database.

BTW, they keep local records in the Philippines as well...not just the US...that's why the State Department wants them. They know this. Not every crime is handled by the NBI in the Philippines. My wife obtained the certificates...that shows that they they are available and specifically available for the purpose of obtaining a visa. It says so right on the certificates she obtained.


ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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Can you give a link to a personal experience from someone in the Philippines that needed this? If so, I would like to read it. Thanks.

-James

Sure, how bout this:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/163126-philippines-nbi-police-certificate/

But if you read the table, it's very clear that you must provide local police certificates for anywhere your wife lived over 6 months.


ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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Honestly, I hope I'm wrong and both of your are right...I've read that several places for several countries. But I can't get around that State Department (NVC), table. It is as clear as day. Maybe they don't actually ask about it if you don't send it in or bring it to the interview, but based on the official site, it sure appears that they require the local police certificates for anywhere the spouse has lived in the spouse's country of nationality over 6 months


ROC

06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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Yep...here it is:

NVC DS-230 Requirements

Note these two parts in the table...you need to obtain a police clearance if:

But NBI covers the whole Philippines.


"The key to everything is patience. You get the chicken by hatching the egg, not by smashing it."

06/20/2009 - Met online ( I am from Philippines and he's from Wisconsin)

04/26/2010 - Met in Philippines (for 2 weeks)

05/08/2010 - Officially engaged!! ( He sent the engagement ring 09/24/2010 and he proposed to me on bended knee in Philippines with the second part of engagement ring) *melting*

06/18/2010 - I-129F package Sent

06/21/2010 - NOA1

06/24/2010 - Touched

09/23/2010 - Touched (when I contacted the Congressman's office)

11/15/2010 - Touched (hopefully the approval)

11/17/2010 - NOA2 (Received hard copy 11/22/2010)

12/01/2010 - Received a letter from DOS dated 11/29/2010 stating that the petition will be forwared to USE AD within a week and that I will received the packets very soon from embassy.

01/18/2011 - Interview. APPROVED!!! No words can express how happy i am.

01/25/2011 - VISA in hand! YAY!!!

02/20/2011 - POE Chicago (O'hare)

05/14/2011 - Our Wedding day

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I did not need to submit any police clearance and i lived in makati and quezon city.


Met August 8, 2007 through a common friend
Officially a couple October 2, 2007
Married November 2008
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USCIS
02/09/2010 - Receipt date on NOA1
02/16/2010 - Notice date (NOA1)
02/24/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail
04/20/2010 - Notice date (NOA2) APPROVED PETITION!
04/27/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail

NVC
04/28/2010 - AOS Bill generated
05/06/2010 - Received AOS Bill and DS-3032 in mail (New York)
05/20/2010 - Sent DS-3032 via email
05/21/2010 - Received DS-3032 form in mail (Philippines)
05/21/2010 - Paid AOS fee online
05/25/2010 - AOS fee shows PAID
05/25/2010 - NVC acknowledges DS-3032 email
05/26/2010 - IV fee generated
05/31/2010 - Paid IV fee
06/02/2010 - IV fee shows PAID
08/17/2010 - Sent AOS and DS-230 papers via 3-day air
08/25/2010 - NVC received the documents as per NVC IVR
09/18/2010 - Received checklist for I-864 forms
10/22/2010 - Sent RFE response
11/04/2010 - NVC received checklist response letter
11/14/2010 - SIF!!!! Yaaayyy!!
11/22/2010 - CC as per AVR
11/30/2010 - Received appointment letter
12/07/2010 - Medicals Day 1
12/08/2010 - Medicals Day 2 - PASSED!!!
01/04/2011 - Interview...APPROVED!!!
01/07/2011 - Received VISA
01/19/2011 - CFO Seminar
01/24/2011 - POE JFK =)

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Anyway, getting a police clearance from 2 other cities she lived for over 6 months is just incase the CO will ask her during interview. That's fine! :thumbs: You can attach this together with NBI clearance.

Edited by SimplyMacy

"The key to everything is patience. You get the chicken by hatching the egg, not by smashing it."

06/20/2009 - Met online ( I am from Philippines and he's from Wisconsin)

04/26/2010 - Met in Philippines (for 2 weeks)

05/08/2010 - Officially engaged!! ( He sent the engagement ring 09/24/2010 and he proposed to me on bended knee in Philippines with the second part of engagement ring) *melting*

06/18/2010 - I-129F package Sent

06/21/2010 - NOA1

06/24/2010 - Touched

09/23/2010 - Touched (when I contacted the Congressman's office)

11/15/2010 - Touched (hopefully the approval)

11/17/2010 - NOA2 (Received hard copy 11/22/2010)

12/01/2010 - Received a letter from DOS dated 11/29/2010 stating that the petition will be forwared to USE AD within a week and that I will received the packets very soon from embassy.

01/18/2011 - Interview. APPROVED!!! No words can express how happy i am.

01/25/2011 - VISA in hand! YAY!!!

02/20/2011 - POE Chicago (O'hare)

05/14/2011 - Our Wedding day

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