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Education is what you get from reading the small print. Experience is what you get from not reading it.



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U.S. District Court Judge Dolly Gee recently ordered the U.S. government to give two mentally incapacitated illegal immigrants legal representation to fight their deportations. The decision was triggered by the case of Jose Franco-Gonzalez, 30, who spent nearly five years in immigration custody after pleading guilty to assault with a deadly weapon because authorities determined he was too mentally incompetent to represent himself in his own deportation hearings. Traditionally public counsel is not supplied in U.S. deportation cases

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/05/judge-orders-supply-mentally-deficient-illegal-immigrants-lawyers-fight/#ixzz1AIakIQJn

Court ordered pro-bono? No big deal. Or, would you rather he remain in custody indefinitely at taxpayer expense?

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Court ordered pro-bono? No big deal. Or, would you rather he remain in custody indefinitely at taxpayer expense?

If he is that incompetent, why was his plea of guilty accepted for the "assault with a deadly weapon charge'? Did he suddenly lose his capacity to make rational decisions when he was faced with deportation?

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If he is that incompetent, why was his plea of guilty accepted for the "assault with a deadly weapon charge'? Did he suddenly lose his capacity to make rational decisions when he was faced with deportation?

Do you know if he had counsel before he entered his guilty plea in the assault case? I bet he did.

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Do you know if he had counsel before he entered his guilty plea in the assault case? I bet he did.

You are most likely correct! He might of had a lawyer, which was most likely a public defender. I know the tax-payers have to foot that bill. So maybe , the time he was in custody was his sentence for the assault charge and he was to be immediately deported after his sentence was served? I think he has had plenty of help already advising him how to avoid the last part of his sentence ( deportation).

U.S. District Court Judge Dolly Gee recently ordered the U.S. government to give two mentally incapacitated illegal immigrants legal representation to fight their deportations. The decision was triggered by the case of Jose Franco-Gonzalez, 30, who spent nearly five years in immigration custody after pleading guilty to assault with a deadly weapon because authorities determined he was too mentally incompetent to represent himself in his own deportation hearings. Traditionally public counsel is not supplied in U.S. deportation cases

The government moved to deport him, but an immigration judge ordered the proceedings be closed based on Franco's diagnosed moderate mental retardation and inability to represent himself.

Even so, Franco remained in immigration custody for four and a half years without having a hearing on his detention until December 2009, the complaint says. He was released in March 2010, three days after the ACLU filed a lawsuit on behalf of him and five other plaintiffs with similar cases.

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If he is that incompetent, why was his plea of guilty accepted for the "assault with a deadly weapon charge'? Did he suddenly lose his capacity to make rational decisions when he was faced with deportation?

I always wondered the same thing about stuff like that in general. I sat in on court hearings all day one time. It was almost all for drugs type charges but before the pleas were done, the judge asked each person what level of school they completed (most weren't beyond 7th grade), if they could read and write, and if they understood their pleas completely. Plus a bunch of other questions to make sure they were competent enough to understand what they were agreeing to. He also required them to get a GED as part of their sentence. I found the whole process interesting and sad at the same time.

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