Military Record

[LotofPatience 65]

When my wife was in the U.S, she had worked in the U.S Military for few weeks.

I read as part of NVC original/certified copies, military records are also needed.

Is this the military record from all other countries? Should we submit U.S military record to NVC?

Loto

[road417king 7]

When my wife was in the U.S, she had worked in the U.S Military for few weeks.

I read as part of NVC original/certified copies, military records are also needed.

Is this the military record from all other countries? Should we submit U.S military record to NVC?

Loto

Hey Loto,

In what capacity did your wife work in the US military, did she enlist and go to bootcamp? Did she go to officer candidate school? Was she ROTC while in college? Knowing the capacity would let us answer the question better.

Example: If she was a civilian contractor or employee working on a military base, then no, there are no military records that would need to be submitted, however if she got a DD Form 214 (herein referred to as a "214") for any service she did as an active member of the US Military, then a copy of the 214 is what's required (officers and enlist folk alike get one when getting discharged from the US Military).

Hope this helps!

Mike

Edited July 23, 2010 by road417king

[LotofPatience 65]

Hey Loto,

In what capacity did your wife work in the US military, did she enlist and go to bootcamp? Did she go to officer candidate school? Was she ROTC while in college? Knowing the capacity would let us answer the question better.

Example: If she was a civilian contractor or employee working on a military base, then no, there are no military records that would need to be submitted, however if she got a DD Form 214 (herein referred to as a "214") for any service she did as an active member of the US Military, then a copy of the 214 is what's required (officers and enlist folk alike get one when getting discharged from the US Military).

Hope this helps!

Mike

Thanks Mike for the response! She was basically in her training (physical and job related) with the U.S Army and didn't complete her training, so got discharged . She was selected in the Reserve for a civilian position in the U.S Army. Do we need to submit any record of this to NVC or the Consular post?

Regards

Loto

[road417king 7]

She was basically in her training (physical and job related) with the U.S Army and didn't complete her training, so got discharged.

So if I understand this correctly, she was in the US Army doing basic training (aka boot camp) and quite possibly MOS (Miltary Occupational Specialty) training, which is considered active duty. So if she was on active duty for training and she got "discharged" or "released" then there were papers (including a DD Form 214), and that form (the 214) is what they will want.

My suggestion is send a copy of page 4 (that's the long one) with your application and make sure she brings the originals (She would have gotten page 1 [a short page] and page 4 [a long page] at separation) to her interviews.

It would look like something like this but have all of her data in all the blocks:

DD Form 214 page 1 (Short form)

DD Form 214 page 4 (Long form)

Keep in mind that if she was not on active duty for training, instead she was working in a civilian capacity, she would not have recieved a DD Form 214. Only she can answer that question and provide the paperwork.

If she did get the paperwork and has since lost it, you can request copies from here: http://www.archives.gov/veterans.

They will send a certified copy of page 2, which looks just like page 4, from the military records depot. Chances are, if she did serve in the US Military, she would already have had an SSN, so she would use that as a basis for the records search. And yes, she must request them as she's still alive.

Hope this helps!

Mike

[LotofPatience 65]

So if I understand this correctly, she was in the US Army doing basic training (aka boot camp) and quite possibly MOS (Miltary Occupational Specialty) training, which is considered active duty. So if she was on active duty for training and she got "discharged" or "released" then there were papers (including a DD Form 214), and that form (the 214) is what they will want.

My suggestion is send a copy of page 4 (that's the long one) with your application and make sure she brings the originals (She would have gotten page 1 [a short page] and page 4 [a long page] at separation) to her interviews.

It would look like something like this but have all of her data in all the blocks:

DD Form 214 page 1 (Short form)

DD Form 214 page 4 (Long form)

Keep in mind that if she was not on active duty for training, instead she was working in a civilian capacity, she would not have recieved a DD Form 214. Only she can answer that question and provide the paperwork.

If she did get the paperwork and has since lost it, you can request copies from here: http://www.archives.gov/veterans.

They will send a certified copy of page 2, which looks just like page 4, from the military records depot. Chances are, if she did serve in the US Military, she would already have had an SSN, so she would use that as a basis for the records search. And yes, she must request them as she's still alive.

Hope this helps!

Mike

Wow, that's a detailed reply. She will contact the Army and try to get those documents. Thank you so much Mike for these details!

Loto

[road417king 7]

Wow, that's a detailed reply. She will contact the Army and try to get those documents. Thank you so much Mike for these details!

Loto

My recommendation is that once she gets the certified copy of the DD Form 214, that she take that form down to the local city hall and get them to add a scan of it to their records so that she won't have to go through all the hoops of requesting a copy from the military records depot in the future.

Just make sure that the local city hall doesn't allow public access to those records because the form will have her SSN on it and she doesn't want to have that become "public records".

Mike

[LotofPatience 65]

My recommendation is that once she gets the certified copy of the DD Form 214, that she take that form down to the local city hall and get them to add a scan of it to their records so that she won't have to go through all the hoops of requesting a copy from the military records depot in the future.

Just make sure that the local city hall doesn't allow public access to those records because the form will have her SSN on it and she doesn't want to have that become "public records".

Mike

Mike, she has filled one from the site you mentioned and faxed her signature to them. It is little lengthy process and can take upto 90 days to receive the DD 214. However, their average processing time is 4 weeks or so. I am really not in urgent since I-130 process started recently. Nevertheless, it is better to have all the documents in hand and we don't want to make any delays from our side in the last minute.

As per your recommendation, we'll register it in the local town hall later.

Regards

Loto

[LotofPatience 65]

My recommendation is that once she gets the certified copy of the DD Form 214, that she take that form down to the local city hall and get them to add a scan of it to their records so that she won't have to go through all the hoops of requesting a copy from the military records depot in the future.

Just make sure that the local city hall doesn't allow public access to those records because the form will have her SSN on it and she doesn't want to have that become "public records".

Mike

Mike, We had an automatic mail response from the miliary office. It is pasted below and the request# is maked. Thought it would be useful to others who are in a similar situation.

Loto

Please do not respond to the following message. This message has been auto-generated by NPRC.

__________________________________________________________________________________

Thank you for submitting a request to the National Personnel Records Center.

We have received your signature authorization for request number N-NNNNNNNNNN.

The average response time on the majority of these types of requests is three to four weeks, however, on occasion a greater response time may be experienced. We service approximately 20,000 requests each week and are working earnestly and successfully at reducing our response time. Our goal is to reduce our response time on these types of requests to ten days or less.

Thank you.

End of auto-generated message

[LotofPatience 65]

Thanks Mike for your input for my wife's military record!

I got 2 attested copies of DD Form 214 today. Though they said 3 to 4 weeks, it arrived in 1 week.

I hope US Military Record is also required for NVC as part of military records. Is that correct?

Loto