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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Hello all,

We're both excited and anxious as our K1 case for HCMC is proceeding along (we've received the packet 3 letter), but a question has recently come up regarding the ordering of her name. If it is written in Vietnamese as "<Family> Thi Thu Hang", should it be shown shown on the letter as "<Family>, Hang Thu Thi" or "<Family>, Hang Thi Thu"? We want make sure it is right now to avoid any issues later.

Thanks,

Eric

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Vietnam
Timeline

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Family name Thi

Middle Thu

First Hang...

it all depends on how it was submitted on the forms as well as how they entered it into the system.. Her documents will show the correct order if it is wrong and can be addressed before the visa is issued... When you respond to pkt 3 be sure that the names are in the correct slots on the DS230...

I'm wondering why you've thi as the family name, because THI is Designation for Females only

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
Timeline

Thanks for the replies & sorry if there was some confusion. The family name is Ngo, so we expected "Ngo Thi Thu Hang" to become "Ngo, Hang Thu Thi", but perhaps it depends on how we completed the original form? We had listed "Thu Thi" for the middle name on Part B of the I-129F (and the letter from the NVC showed it as "Hang Thu Thi Ngo").

Eric

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For example: My daughter's name is Nguyen Ngoc My Hang (writing in Vietnamese)

Nguyen : Last name

Ngoc My: Middle Name

Hang : First name

Then it be showed on the letter as: Nguyen, Hang Ngoc My

So yours will be the same as mine. It should be showed as: "Family", Hang Thi Thu


USCIS

01/25/2010 I-130 Sent

02/03/2010 I-130 NOA1 hard copy received in mail

03/19/2010 NOA2 Approved

03/22/2010 NOA2 received (email)

03/26/2010 NOA2 hard copy received in mail

Your I-130 was approved in 44 days from your NOA1 date.

NVC

03/26/2010 : Case Number Assigned

03/26/2010 : E-Mails Given to NVC Operator

03/30/2010 : Received DS-3032 and AOS Bill

03/31/2010 : DS-3032 Sent by E-Mail

03/31/2010 : Paid AOS Bill Online

04/01/2010 : Received IV Bill

04/01/2010 : Paid IV Bill

04/03/2010 : DS-3032 Accepted (email received)

04/05/2010 : IV Bill and AOS Bill showed Paid (Still waiting for PCC)

04/15/2010 : AOS and Documents Sent

04/15/2010 : Return Completed DS-230 and Documents

04/21/2010 : AVR received

04/29/2010 : Log-In Failed

04/29/2010 : Case Completed at NVC

04/30/2010 : Interview Date Assigned

JUNE 16, 2010 @8:00 A.M.

Your interview took 133 days from your I-130 NOA1 date.

EMBASSY

06/10/2010 : Medical Exam

06/16/2010 : Interview Date

07/02/2010 : Visa Received

07/07/2010 : POE at Chicago

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You shouldn't change the order of the middle name. Just see it as one word "Thi Thu"...We just switch between family name and first name.

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USCIS

01/25/2010 I-130 Sent

02/03/2010 I-130 NOA1 hard copy received in mail

03/19/2010 NOA2 Approved

03/22/2010 NOA2 received (email)

03/26/2010 NOA2 hard copy received in mail

Your I-130 was approved in 44 days from your NOA1 date.

NVC

03/26/2010 : Case Number Assigned

03/26/2010 : E-Mails Given to NVC Operator

03/30/2010 : Received DS-3032 and AOS Bill

03/31/2010 : DS-3032 Sent by E-Mail

03/31/2010 : Paid AOS Bill Online

04/01/2010 : Received IV Bill

04/01/2010 : Paid IV Bill

04/03/2010 : DS-3032 Accepted (email received)

04/05/2010 : IV Bill and AOS Bill showed Paid (Still waiting for PCC)

04/15/2010 : AOS and Documents Sent

04/15/2010 : Return Completed DS-230 and Documents

04/21/2010 : AVR received

04/29/2010 : Log-In Failed

04/29/2010 : Case Completed at NVC

04/30/2010 : Interview Date Assigned

JUNE 16, 2010 @8:00 A.M.

Your interview took 133 days from your I-130 NOA1 date.

EMBASSY

06/10/2010 : Medical Exam

06/16/2010 : Interview Date

07/02/2010 : Visa Received

07/07/2010 : POE at Chicago

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
Timeline

You shouldn't change the order of the middle name. Just see it as one word "Thi Thu"...We just switch between family name and first name.

Agreed! :thumbs:


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For example: My daughter's name is Nguyen Ngoc My Hang (writing in Vietnamese)

Nguyen : Last name

Ngoc My: Middle Name

Hang : First name

Then it be showed on the letter as: Nguyen, Hang Ngoc My

So yours will be the same as mine. It should be showed as: "Family", Hang Thi Thu

YOU forgot The THI for your daugther.


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Like I said above. My daughter's name is Nguyen Ngoc My Hang. ("Thi" was used for old fashion). Nowadays, I think nobody's using "Thi". The parents now named their children using 4 words or 3 words without "Thi" (Maybe a few of them are still using "Thi") :blush:


USCIS

01/25/2010 I-130 Sent

02/03/2010 I-130 NOA1 hard copy received in mail

03/19/2010 NOA2 Approved

03/22/2010 NOA2 received (email)

03/26/2010 NOA2 hard copy received in mail

Your I-130 was approved in 44 days from your NOA1 date.

NVC

03/26/2010 : Case Number Assigned

03/26/2010 : E-Mails Given to NVC Operator

03/30/2010 : Received DS-3032 and AOS Bill

03/31/2010 : DS-3032 Sent by E-Mail

03/31/2010 : Paid AOS Bill Online

04/01/2010 : Received IV Bill

04/01/2010 : Paid IV Bill

04/03/2010 : DS-3032 Accepted (email received)

04/05/2010 : IV Bill and AOS Bill showed Paid (Still waiting for PCC)

04/15/2010 : AOS and Documents Sent

04/15/2010 : Return Completed DS-230 and Documents

04/21/2010 : AVR received

04/29/2010 : Log-In Failed

04/29/2010 : Case Completed at NVC

04/30/2010 : Interview Date Assigned

JUNE 16, 2010 @8:00 A.M.

Your interview took 133 days from your I-130 NOA1 date.

EMBASSY

06/10/2010 : Medical Exam

06/16/2010 : Interview Date

07/02/2010 : Visa Received

07/07/2010 : POE at Chicago

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Like I said above. My daughter's name is Nguyen Ngoc My Hang. ("Thi" was used for old fashion). Nowadays, I think nobody's using "Thi". The parents now named their children using 4 words or 3 words without "Thi" (Maybe a few of them are still using "Thi") :blush:

Old fashion?

Did you not read my earlier post why there is a THI in the first place.

When was the last time you went to Vietnam? Everyone that I knew who were female had Thi in there name.


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Thi stand for women, you can omit the THI.


CR1 timeline:

11/2008: submit I130

11/15/2008: case sent to CSC

06/02/2009: uscis approval

08/05/2009: interview-get blue slip request timeline

08/25/2009: submit timeline - get denial blue slip

Không có gì quý hơn độc lập tự do."

Tôi biết nó, thằng nói câu nói đó

Tôi biết nó, đồng bào miền Bắc này biết nó

Việc nó làm, tội nó phạm ra sao

Nó đầu tiên đem râu nó bện vào

Hình xác lão Mao lông lá

Bàn tay Nga đầy băng tuyết giá

Cũng nhoài qua lục địa Trung Hoa

Không phải xoa đầu mà túm tóc nó từ xa

Nó đứng không yên, tất bật, điên đầu

Lúc rụi vào Tàu, lúc rúc vào Nga

Nó gọi Tàu Nga là cha anh nó Và tình nguyện làm con chó nhỏ

Xông xáo giữ nhà gác ngõ cho cha anh

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Thi stand for women, you can omit the THI.

If THI is on her passport, ID card and BC - I would not omit it.

To the OP - many do not use THI! (and I have been to VN recently - 3 months last year)!

My wife uses it and its on all her ID but many of her friends do not have the THI in their name nor on their ID. Just because your female does not mandate that THI be part of your legally registered name.

Last - Nguyen

Middle - Thi Thanh

First - Doan


6/15/2009 Filed I-129F

12/15/2009 Interview (HCMC, VN)

1/16/2010 POE Detroit

3/31/2010 MARRIED !!!

11/20/2010 Filed I-485

12/23/2010 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

12/31/2010 I-485 Transfered to CSC

2/4/2011 Green Card received

1/7/2013 Mailed I-751 package

1/14/2013 I-751 NOA (VSC)

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Old fashion?

Did you not read my earlier post why there is a THI in the first place.

When was the last time you went to Vietnam? Everyone that I knew who were female had Thi in there name.

I'm sorry, I saw you quoted my post, so I thought you asked me about my daughter's name (Why I forgot "thi" for my daughter's name) :). I misunderstood, or did you quote it wrong? :)

The people in Vietnam, they started naming their children using 3 or 4 words without using "Thi" a few years ago (because "Thi" sound so "Se'n" maybe?). It's hard to find "the kids" using "Thi" as their middle names recently. (I don't mention the people that you know, because they weren't born last few years ago) :). You can ask your relative who live in Vietnam what they're gonna name their children if they have kid? I'm sure they're gonna name their children without "Thi" :D


USCIS

01/25/2010 I-130 Sent

02/03/2010 I-130 NOA1 hard copy received in mail

03/19/2010 NOA2 Approved

03/22/2010 NOA2 received (email)

03/26/2010 NOA2 hard copy received in mail

Your I-130 was approved in 44 days from your NOA1 date.

NVC

03/26/2010 : Case Number Assigned

03/26/2010 : E-Mails Given to NVC Operator

03/30/2010 : Received DS-3032 and AOS Bill

03/31/2010 : DS-3032 Sent by E-Mail

03/31/2010 : Paid AOS Bill Online

04/01/2010 : Received IV Bill

04/01/2010 : Paid IV Bill

04/03/2010 : DS-3032 Accepted (email received)

04/05/2010 : IV Bill and AOS Bill showed Paid (Still waiting for PCC)

04/15/2010 : AOS and Documents Sent

04/15/2010 : Return Completed DS-230 and Documents

04/21/2010 : AVR received

04/29/2010 : Log-In Failed

04/29/2010 : Case Completed at NVC

04/30/2010 : Interview Date Assigned

JUNE 16, 2010 @8:00 A.M.

Your interview took 133 days from your I-130 NOA1 date.

EMBASSY

06/10/2010 : Medical Exam

06/16/2010 : Interview Date

07/02/2010 : Visa Received

07/07/2010 : POE at Chicago

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Thanks for the replies & sorry if there was some confusion. The family name is Ngo, so we expected "Ngo Thi Thu Hang" to become "Ngo, Hang Thu Thi", but perhaps it depends on how we completed the original form? We had listed "Thu Thi" for the middle name on Part B of the I-129F (and the letter from the NVC showed it as "Hang Thu Thi Ngo").

Eric

My wife has 4 words for her name. First First, Middle, and Last name. It get very confusing when she get her Driver license, SSN, my employee insurance, and etc.

It's better to put an underline, or a dash between her middle name. Like Thi_Thu or Thi-Thu. This will better to identify First, Middle_Middle, and Last name.


I-130 Journey

USCIS

06-15-2008 : Marriage

08-16-2008 : I-130 Sent

08-18-2008 : I-130 Received

08-22-2008 : I-130 NOA1

02-02-2009 : I-130 NOA2 Approved 164 days from NOA1

NVC

02-04-2009 : Visited my wife for 2 weeks. 02-22-2009 come back to US

02-11-2009 : Received package from NVC

02-23-2009 : AOS Paid $70 (Online)

02-23-2009 : DS-3032 sent (by email)

02-25-2009 : Payment Received from my bank (AOS)

03-04-2009 : NVC has received the Choice of Agent DS-3032 (Online)

03-04-2009 : IV Application Processing Fees $400 (Online)

03-05-2009 : Payment Received from my bank (IV APS)

03-07-2009 : DS-230, and I-864 Sent (by USPS)

03-12-2009 : USPS confirm arrived at NVC for DS-230, & I-864

03-13-2009 : NVC received DS-230, & I-864 (Case in progress)

03-20-2009 : NVC case completed in 1 week NVC completed 03-20-2009.

04-02-2009 : NVC Left to HCM city

04-22-2009 : Medical Passed

05-12-2009 : Received a package IV from HCM Consulate by email

05-18-2009 : My wife got Pink.. yeah..

05-26-2009 : Visa received

06-18-2009 : US Entry!!! Yeah, my wife finally here.

06-29-2009 : Received SSN from snail mail

07-20-2009 : Green card received by mail

09-15-2009 : Writting test from DVM.

11-03-2009 : Driving Test.

01-20-2010 : Working.

04-20-2011 : Submit I751

04-26-2011 : Received I-797 NOA with Receipt Number

05-11-2011 : Received ASC Appointment Notice

06-03-2011 : Biometrics Apts @ 11:00 AM

10-11-2011 : Submit more evidence.

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