Arizona's Next Target: Anchor Babies - No More Birth Certificates

[Obama 2012 1,714]

http://www.thefoxnation.com/arizona-immigration-bill/2010/05/24/ariz-targeting-anchor-babies

The author of Arizona's immigration law, state Sen. Russell Pearce, told constituents he wants to pass another measure to invalidate citizenship granted to the children of illegal aliens.

Pearce wrote that he plans to "push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen," in an email obtained by Phoenix CBS affiliate KPHO.

Pearce also forwarded an email from another correspondent expanding on the proposal — which he later told KPHO he didn't agree with. "If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother. Call it sexist, but that's the way nature made it. Men don't drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do," the email said.

Pearce did tell the CBS affiliate, however, that he didn't see anything wrong with using the term "anchor baby" to refer to natural-born U.S. citizens.

Last year, 92 Congressmen sponsored a bill that would change the 14th Amendment so that children of illegal aliens born in the United States would not be granted citizenship. The bill is still in committee.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That sounds like someone blowing air out of their arsehole, as it will surely fail unless there is a constitutional amendment.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

That sounds like someone blowing air out of their arsehole, as it will surely fail unless there is a constitutional amendment.

depends really.

The state can easily refuse to issue an Arizona Birth Certificate.

It doesn't mean the child isn't a US Citizen by default, but the state can refuse the document as it's not a Federal document...

Actually your birth certificate is usually based on the county in which you are born in.

It'd be interesting to see how it would play out.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It would make zero difference to the person's rights as a citizen - if you are born in the US you are guaranteed citizenship under the constitution. Arizona trying to ####### with that will not change it, and the legislators would rightly be put in their place by the courts.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

It would make zero difference to the person's rights as a citizen - if you are born in the US you are guaranteed citizenship under the constitution. Arizona trying to ####### with that will not change it, and the legislators would rightly be put in their place by the courts.

that's my point though. They'll be citizens by default because of the 14th amendment (erroneously anyway), but they just won't get issues an Arizona birth certificate... It sends a message is all it does. Doesn't change their actual classification though. - Why birth certificates aren't a federal deal anyway is beyond me at this point in our history.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There will be a class action lawsuit and Arizona will be ordered to issue birth certificates.

All they are doing is grandstanding at the expense of people who are legitimate citizens under constitutional law.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The author of Arizona's immigration law, state Sen. Russell Pearce, told constituents he wants to pass another measure to invalidate citizenship granted to the children of illegal aliens.

Pearce wrote that he plans to "push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen,"

He's making a mockery of the U.S. Constitution.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Is there even any requirement for people to declare their immigration status when they register a birth?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

So what? You think Arizona dicking around with birth certificates is going to change anything?

It isn't.

It will send a strong message that illegals aren't welcome there.

If even for a moment illegal mothers feel their baby won't get a piece of paper to prove its citizenship, it would cut down on the anchor babies, which would be a victory for the state.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It will send a strong message that illegals aren't welcome there.

If even for a moment illegal mothers feel their baby won't get a piece of paper to prove its citizenship, it would cut down on the anchor babies, which would be a victory for the state.

The only purpose it will serve is as reelection material for the grandstanding jerkoff politicians who came up with it.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

You're on the wrong side of history and of facts on the matter. Although you are entitled to believe it should be changed, as the U.S. Constitution currently stands, you are wrong.

it's you who are blind to the intent and cause of the 14th amendment. It's been bastardized ever since.

Funny how many times people want to use wording when it benefits them, yet want to use interpretation/intent when it doesn't.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

it's you who are blind to the intent and cause of the 14th amendment. It's been bastardized ever since.

Funny how many times people want to use wording when it benefits them, yet want to use interpretation/intent when it doesn't.

The law is straightforward on this and there have been cases such as United States v. Kim Wong Ark where the Supreme Court reaffirmed birthright of citizenship.

Canadians transferred to US hospitals

Since the majority of Canadians live in the relatively narrow strip of land close to the long border with the United States, Canadians in need of urgent care are occasionally transferred to nearby American medical facilities. In some circumstances, Canadian mothers facing a high-risk delivery have given birth in American hospitals. Such children are American citizens by birthright.^[31] Since, in this regard, Canadian law is similar to that of the US, children born in Canada of American parents are also Canadian citizens by birthright.^[32] In both situations that birthright citizenship is passed on to their children. In some cases birth in an American hospital (sometimes called "border babies") has resulted in people living much of their lives in Canada and unknowingly never holding Canadian Citizenship, a group sometimes called Lost Canadians ^[33]

^{[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States_of_America#cite_note-32][/url]}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States_of_America

[The_Dude 1,142]

I don't mind if they make it universal, that a child born here is not automatically imbued with citizenship. But to retroactively strip people of their citizenship is wrong.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't mind if they make it universal, that a child born here is not automatically imbued with citizenship. But to retroactively strip people of their citizenship is wrong.

I don't think we should mettle with the 14th Amendment as denial of citizenship was once used to target a certain group of citizens before.

[Otto 83]

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