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Anyone who went through Lagos for a CR1 or IR1 visa, did you include an Evolution of Relationship letter in your evidence package? It was mentioned in one of the upper forums and I hadn't thought about it before (shouts out to the person who mentioned it!) so I'm wondering if I should or if it would even matter in Lagos. I also read from someone else that giving too much evidence would just give the CO something to find and question the beneficiary about. So, any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks!

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We were K-1 and Vietnam so this is for the sake of discussion.

I can't say for Lagos but we were Vietnam and in HCMC you definatley will get an RFE without the "Evolution of Relationship" letter.

How much detail is specific to each individual. Some advise to keep it direct and to the point, others will argue that because it is an evolution of your relationship that its beter to add some higher level of detail.

The most important thing either way is to make sure that the facts are there and that if asked about any of them that they can be correctly answered.

I put a pretty fair amout of detail in mine (I ended up with three full pages which covered 3.5 visits). (only 3.5 because the last one I was there for and I updated it right up until the time of the interview).

6/15/2009 Filed I-129F

12/15/2009 Interview (HCMC, VN)

1/16/2010 POE Detroit

3/31/2010 MARRIED !!!

11/20/2010 Filed I-485

12/23/2010 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

12/31/2010 I-485 Transfered to CSC

2/4/2011 Green Card received

1/7/2013 Mailed I-751 package

1/14/2013 I-751 NOA (VSC)

2/07/2013 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

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We were K-1 and Vietnam so this is for the sake of discussion.

I can't say for Lagos but we were Vietnam and in HCMC you definatley will get an RFE without the "Evolution of Relationship" letter.

How much detail is specific to each individual. Some advise to keep it direct and to the point, others will argue that because it is an evolution of your relationship that its beter to add some higher level of detail.

The most important thing either way is to make sure that the facts are there and that if asked about any of them that they can be correctly answered.

I put a pretty fair amout of detail in mine (I ended up with three full pages which covered 3.5 visits). (only 3.5 because the last one I was there for and I updated it right up until the time of the interview).

Thank you Bernie C for the info. I believe we'll write one. It just seems to me that if we both write the letters and both read each others, where's the believability (is that a word) in that? I guess it comes up in the interview if the beneficiary can't answer the questions huh?

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Thank you Bernie C for the info. I believe we'll write one. It just seems to me that if we both write the letters and both read each others, where's the believability (is that a word) in that? I guess it comes up in the interview if the beneficiary can't answer the questions huh?

The Evolution of Relationship Letter should be written by the USC Petitioner. After I wrote mine I sent it to my fiancee so she could review and proof read it (she even pointed out a date error I had made and a few other detials that I goofed up). You both should know the content of the Letter and be in total agreement on the dates, times, places, etc...

I also had mine notarized before submitting it to the Consulate.

Many CO's will ask trick questions and/or ask the same question in differnt ways to see if they get a different response. I was fortunate to be in HCMC for a few weeks before the interview and we did interview rehersals. I was there with her through the whole process until we received the visa (a month and a half in total before we said goodbyes and came home to the US).

I'm not trying to worry or alarm you - just be prepared - and know the facts and details of what is submitted.

6/15/2009 Filed I-129F

12/15/2009 Interview (HCMC, VN)

1/16/2010 POE Detroit

3/31/2010 MARRIED !!!

11/20/2010 Filed I-485

12/23/2010 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

12/31/2010 I-485 Transfered to CSC

2/4/2011 Green Card received

1/7/2013 Mailed I-751 package

1/14/2013 I-751 NOA (VSC)

2/07/2013 Biometrics (Buffalo, NY)

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Anyone who went through Lagos for a CR1 or IR1 visa, did you include an Evolution of Relationship letter in your evidence package? It was mentioned in one of the upper forums and I hadn't thought about it before (shouts out to the person who mentioned it!) so I'm wondering if I should or if it would even matter in Lagos. I also read from someone else that giving too much evidence would just give the CO something to find and question the beneficiary about. So, any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks!

Hey Cheyemo,

I would be going thru lagos too and went through the link sent by the NVC to check on things needed to be brought along to the interview. That of e-mails was not mentioned for relationship based on marriage. Rather they talked on photos B4 and aAFTER the marriage. So as for me, I wld be going with photos, moneygram receipts, phone call logs( even that was not stated for marriage-based petitions). We have stopped doing much of emails over the years, so it really doesnt seem to really apply. oh well, i might just print out some from those yesteryears we were dating.

A friend of mine was interviewed 2 months ago, and was only asked for her photos. she gave them those from when they were in school and the consular, then stated that they seem to have known each other a long time, to which she just said yes, and that was the end of her ordeal.

I pray we will have good stories to tell too at the end of all this.

F2A from my husband, for me and our children.

2005-05-21: Got married to my man.

Priority Date: Dec 26, 2006

2006-12-23: I-130 Sent

2007-01-05: I-130 NOA1

2009-05-21: I-130 Approved

2009-06-04: NVC Case No. generated

2010-01-15: DS-3032 / I-864 Bill generated

2010-01-17: Choice of Agent sent via e-mail

2010-01-22: Paid I-864 Bill

2010-01-25: I-864 Bill shows PAID

2010-01-28: Received email saying: Choice of agent accepted/IV bill generated.

2010-01-28: Paid IV bill.

2010-02-25: Sent out completed I-864 and DS- 230.

2010-04-08: Case Complete.

2010-05-03: Interview scheduled for June 2nd 2010 as per NVC live operator.

2010-06-02: 221g refusal pending return of requested document.

2010-06-03: Obtained the requested document. E-mailed consulate requesting a new interview date.

2011-01-26: Visas Approved! To be picked up Feb 2nd.

2011-02-01: Got an e-mail stating Visas aint ready for pick-up yet!! Oh God PLSSSSSSS.

2011-02-09: Got a reply to my incenssant e-mails scolding me for writing, and asking me to refrain from writing more letters, and stating officially that am on AP!!!

2011-03-15: Picked up Visas. Oh My God!

2011-03-21: POE, Atlanta Georgia. Find it hard to believe this is truly happening. Thank you God.

NOW IN THE US.

2011-03-28: Received our Social Security Cards in the Mail.

2011-04-08: Received Green Cards.

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Hey Cheyemo,

I would be going thru lagos too and went through the link sent by the NVC to check on things needed to be brought along to the interview. That of e-mails was not mentioned for relationship based on marriage. Rather they talked on photos B4 and aAFTER the marriage. So as for me, I wld be going with photos, moneygram receipts, phone call logs( even that was not stated for marriage-based petitions). We have stopped doing much of emails over the years, so it really doesnt seem to really apply. oh well, i might just print out some from those yesteryears we were dating.

A friend of mine was interviewed 2 months ago, and was only asked for her photos. she gave them those from when they were in school and the consular, then stated that they seem to have known each other a long time, to which she just said yes, and that was the end of her ordeal.

I pray we will have good stories to tell too at the end of all this.

Hey sorry, just realised u were not talking about emails but a kind of letter that tells the story of ur relationship???

Uhm... i personally would not want to do that lest it boomerangs. U know short and sinmple is what i'ld advise.

Goodluck to us all!

F2A from my husband, for me and our children.

2005-05-21: Got married to my man.

Priority Date: Dec 26, 2006

2006-12-23: I-130 Sent

2007-01-05: I-130 NOA1

2009-05-21: I-130 Approved

2009-06-04: NVC Case No. generated

2010-01-15: DS-3032 / I-864 Bill generated

2010-01-17: Choice of Agent sent via e-mail

2010-01-22: Paid I-864 Bill

2010-01-25: I-864 Bill shows PAID

2010-01-28: Received email saying: Choice of agent accepted/IV bill generated.

2010-01-28: Paid IV bill.

2010-02-25: Sent out completed I-864 and DS- 230.

2010-04-08: Case Complete.

2010-05-03: Interview scheduled for June 2nd 2010 as per NVC live operator.

2010-06-02: 221g refusal pending return of requested document.

2010-06-03: Obtained the requested document. E-mailed consulate requesting a new interview date.

2011-01-26: Visas Approved! To be picked up Feb 2nd.

2011-02-01: Got an e-mail stating Visas aint ready for pick-up yet!! Oh God PLSSSSSSS.

2011-02-09: Got a reply to my incenssant e-mails scolding me for writing, and asking me to refrain from writing more letters, and stating officially that am on AP!!!

2011-03-15: Picked up Visas. Oh My God!

2011-03-21: POE, Atlanta Georgia. Find it hard to believe this is truly happening. Thank you God.

NOW IN THE US.

2011-03-28: Received our Social Security Cards in the Mail.

2011-04-08: Received Green Cards.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Hey sorry, just realised u were not talking about emails but a kind of letter that tells the story of ur relationship???

Uhm... i personally would not want to do that lest it boomerangs. U know short and sinmple is what i'ld advise.

Goodluck to us all!

Admire, thank you for your advice. I was thinking short and simple too but wanted to know others experiences. I see your interview was yesterday. Any news?

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04/23/2014 - N-400 Package Sent

04/25/2014 - N-400 Package Delivered

04/30/2014 - Received electronic notification

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Admire, thank you for your advice. I was thinking short and simple too but wanted to know others experiences. I see your interview was yesterday. Any news?

hmm...here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/259286-do-i-have-to-it-all-again-my-interview-was-tough/

F2A from my husband, for me and our children.

2005-05-21: Got married to my man.

Priority Date: Dec 26, 2006

2006-12-23: I-130 Sent

2007-01-05: I-130 NOA1

2009-05-21: I-130 Approved

2009-06-04: NVC Case No. generated

2010-01-15: DS-3032 / I-864 Bill generated

2010-01-17: Choice of Agent sent via e-mail

2010-01-22: Paid I-864 Bill

2010-01-25: I-864 Bill shows PAID

2010-01-28: Received email saying: Choice of agent accepted/IV bill generated.

2010-01-28: Paid IV bill.

2010-02-25: Sent out completed I-864 and DS- 230.

2010-04-08: Case Complete.

2010-05-03: Interview scheduled for June 2nd 2010 as per NVC live operator.

2010-06-02: 221g refusal pending return of requested document.

2010-06-03: Obtained the requested document. E-mailed consulate requesting a new interview date.

2011-01-26: Visas Approved! To be picked up Feb 2nd.

2011-02-01: Got an e-mail stating Visas aint ready for pick-up yet!! Oh God PLSSSSSSS.

2011-02-09: Got a reply to my incenssant e-mails scolding me for writing, and asking me to refrain from writing more letters, and stating officially that am on AP!!!

2011-03-15: Picked up Visas. Oh My God!

2011-03-21: POE, Atlanta Georgia. Find it hard to believe this is truly happening. Thank you God.

NOW IN THE US.

2011-03-28: Received our Social Security Cards in the Mail.

2011-04-08: Received Green Cards.

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