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So we went to go get Nik's Social Security Card updated now that he has the green card and they wouldn't take our paper SS-5 which we had filled out. I quizzed the lady about it, and she said that starting in November 2009 they were no longer accepting "wet signatures" or paper applications - it's all on the computer and a sworn (and recorded - apparently) statement.

There are 6 offices which have been switched to "card centers" and deal with the easier stuff like applying for a new card etc.

Brooklyn, NY

Queens, NY

Minneapolis, MN

Sacramento, CA

Las Vegas, NV

Phoenix, AZ

It also seemed to be some sort of pilot program, so I would expect to see this sort of thing rolled out more widely as time goes on - so don't be surprised!!

Edited by Nik+Heather

K-1:

January 28, 2009: NOA1

June 4, 2009: Interview - APPROVED!!!

October 11, 2009: Wedding

AOS:

December 23, 2009: NOA1!

January 22, 2010: Bogus RFE corrected through congressional inquiry "EAD waiting on biometrics only" Read about it here.

March 15, 2010: AOS interview - RFE for I-693 vaccination supplement - CS signed part 6!

March 27, 2010: Green Card recieved

ROC:

March 1, 2012: Mailed ROC package

March 7, 2012: Tracking says "notice left"...after a phone call to post office.

More detailed time line in profile.

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Good for many here to know, Heather. Sure beats the trips and the "cattle-call" atmosphere, si man!


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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So we went to go get Nik's Social Security Card updated now that he has the green card and they wouldn't take our paper SS-5 which we had filled out. I quizzed the lady about it, and she said that starting in November 2009 they were no longer accepting "wet signatures" or paper applications - it's all on the computer and a sworn (and recorded - apparently) statement.

There are 6 offices which have been switched to "card centers" and deal with the easier stuff like applying for a new card etc.

Brooklyn, NY

Queens, NY

Minneapolis, MN

Sacramento, CA

Las Vegas, NV

Phoenix, AZ

It also seemed to be some sort of pilot program, so I would expect to see this sort of thing rolled out more widely as time goes on - so don't be surprised!!

No pilot program. SSA is using an new system called SSNAP that doesn't require a signed application.

RM 10205.175 Applicant’s Electronic Signature for an Application for an SSN Card Processed in SSNAP

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0110205175

As far as using the Form SS-5, they haven't used those for a long time when you apply in the office. Everything gets entered into the computer and a computer generated for is what you signed, even if you gave them an SS-5. I have told people on here more times than I can remember to not bother with the SS-5 when applying. One more reason that the SSN guide here is out of date.

RM 00202.001 Form SS-5 (Application for A Social Security Card) - Overview

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202001

Notice this came out 07/2005

C. Policy - Types of Applications

An SSN application can be the Form SS-5, the Internet version Form SS-5, or the systems-generated application which collects the same information from the applicant as is obtained on the paper Form SS-5. While any of these formats are acceptable, you must use the systems-generated application whenever the proper applicant remains in the office throughout the interview and input process

The Brooklyn Card Center has been open for over five years. The Minneapolis Card Center opened last year. The others opened somewhere in between.

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The Brooklyn Card Center has been open for over five years. The Minneapolis Card Center opened last year. The others opened somewhere in between.

OK, well, when we did Nik's first in October, she took his paper SS-5. For Phoenix, this no signature on anything started in November 2009. So, maybe not new for Brooklyn, but there was a recent change to at least part of the process in Phoenix.


K-1:

January 28, 2009: NOA1

June 4, 2009: Interview - APPROVED!!!

October 11, 2009: Wedding

AOS:

December 23, 2009: NOA1!

January 22, 2010: Bogus RFE corrected through congressional inquiry "EAD waiting on biometrics only" Read about it here.

March 15, 2010: AOS interview - RFE for I-693 vaccination supplement - CS signed part 6!

March 27, 2010: Green Card recieved

ROC:

March 1, 2012: Mailed ROC package

March 7, 2012: Tracking says "notice left"...after a phone call to post office.

More detailed time line in profile.

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