Happy International Women's Day Ladies!!!

[visaveteran 0]

You're coming to a community who appreciates women and is composed of members who at the very least find Russia/FSU to be interesting.

You can't seriously believe your hate speech about women and Russia/FSU is going to be welcomed here.

Everyone's primary goal in coming to this forum is to help others with their visa process. It's secondary to enjoy some common interests that we have in our lives. Maybe it helps some people pass the time.

And if you actually did provide any help with visa's then I'd probably let you slide. But you don't. In fact, your primary and only goal in coming here is to spread your hate rhetoric about the two subjects we have an interest in.

So simply labeling someone as "Aw, you're just another Mox" is a pathetic cop-out. As previously mentioned, everyone here has something in common with him, except you. We (excluding you in this "we") love our wives/husbands/fiance's; they're not some "reward for the fall of communism". We (again, not you) like to learn about where they are from to better understand who they are now.

I can't see how/why you think you deserve to be welcomed with opened arms on this forum. I'm not the first to pull your card and I won't be the last; so long as you come here to continue your personal crusade.

This is not a community...it's an anonymous public forum. Get real.

I've been on it for years in one way or another. So I'm not coming to anything. I've been here long before you.

Yes, some others on here have something in common with Mox. And how is that a good thing?

There is no definition to this forum...it's open to anyone which is why eekee posts as a non visa seeking member, or none RUB members post their comments freely. If there is a purpose, it's to help get people visas...not worship women. The rest is just filler...often of a silly nature. You fill it with your crappola and I fill it with mine. Tomorrow no one will care.

This will be my last reply to any of your posts. In my world vets are brothers, not pit bull enemies. In my world, vets support vets, not attack them with cowardly anonymous personal attacks of a vile nature...and to suggest I should have been killed by fellow soldiers in combat is way out of bounds. How low you will go is something I am in wonder of.

[visaveteran 0]

This.

It's obvious that if vv really does have a Russian wife (and the more I read, the more I doubt it, because I can't imagine any self-respecting woman would put up with that kind of rhetoric and treatment day in and day out), he considers her a war trophy for "beating" the Soviet Union. A Russian (or anyone else for that matter) might hate their government, hate their city, hate their bureaucracy, hate the poverty they live in, hate their family, hate their jobs, and overall hate their quality of life, and might even hate it all enough to marry some droll schmuck to get away from it all. But I have never known a Russian to hate their country and culture, especially not to the point where they'd happily suppress it all as vv suggests his does. If vv's wife really exists, and if he isn't just a troll but actually pushes her face in his self disillusions of grandeur every day like he does here, I think he's in for some big surprises in the future. I hope at least.

You weave a great fantasy. And like all fantasies, there is no truth or realness to them. I see you Moxifying this discussion. Taking it lower and lower into innuendo, insults and generally flooding the discussion with unfounded negative suggestions based only on your warped view of things. And you've again found a kindred playmate to join you in your silly game. Birds of a feather...

[Cixelsyd 1]

This is not a community...it's an anonymous public forum. Get real.

There's too many flaws in this statement to point them all out. If you don't see it, then I just can't help you there.

I've been on it for years in one way or another. So I'm not coming to anything. I've been here long before you.

Your join date is less than a year before mine.

Unless you mean you've been coming here as a troll under different names?

Yes, some others on here have something in common with Mox. And how is that a good thing?

So you basically just proved my point that you are against women and Russia/FSU. Because that would be having something in common with Mox and hence a bad thing by your logic.

There is no definition to this forum...it's open to anyone which is why eekee posts as a non visa seeking member, or none RUB members post their comments freely. If there is a purpose, it's to help get people visas...not worship women.

So you basically just beat yourself with your own words. "This forum doesn't have a purpose". "The purpose of this forum is to help get people visa's".

I haven't seen an argument this one sided since a blind guy got in a debate with a deaf guy.

The rest is just filler...often of a silly nature.

Actually, I agree with you on this. Hey, how bout that.

I'm not so interested in talking about a lot of things people talk about here. But unlike you, I don't feel the need to try and drag their conversation down, just because it doesn't fall in line with what I want.

This will be my last reply to any of your posts. In my world vets are brothers, not pit bull enemies. In my world, vets support vets, not attack them with cowardly anonymous personal attacks of a vile nature.

So next time be more careful before you start throwing around phrases like: "I fought for America, how about you?".

Always know your opponent. Or at least have some idea.

I think that covers all we need for now.

[visaveteran 0]

For what it's worth, I'll never go so far as to question personal "battlefield" histories. I agree with a lot of what Cix posted, but I can't support that particular line of conversation.

Having said that, I wish it had been your last reply about 2 pages ago. It's one thing to have the "right" to piss all over a thread that was meant to honor our spouses and fiancees. It's quite another to exercise the tact of self-restraint in playing the spoiler card. All we (yeah, "we") wanted to do was say a few nice things about our wives and fiancee's on IWD. You don't support IWD. We all got that from your first post. The tactful thing--the honorable thing--to do would have been to just walk away and let the rest of us partake.

Mox, I'm glad you have distanced yourself from the comments that, I judge, far exceeded boundaries of decency and mature commentary.

I will withdraw from this thread...we all need to know when to move on. Much of my continuing to post on here was replying to those who choose to engage me, rather than ignore me. Call it provocation.

I will close by observing that few men have actually posted in regards to IWD. I'd call it disappointing if I supported the holiday.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

There is still a Russian Communist Party. In fact, they just made the news...they will be carrying posters of Stalin's picture in this year's Victory Parade. That was forbidden until Putin praised Stalin in a major speech recently.

I told Brad that if he authentically felt connected to IWD, to enjoy it. If he was just playing to his wife, he was just be pragmatic. Nothing noble in that. I guess you missed that.

I have not asked anyone to not celebrate IWD. Just put out my reply to an free and open forum. You know, Freedom of Speech.

I fought for America. How about you?

There is a communist party in America also. So what? You support freedom, yes? You fought for freedom, yes? Russian people are free to choose whatever political party they wish to support, as are we. The last I heard, that was a good thing. "Freedom" does not mean we all agree with Visaveteran. Freedom means we are free to think as we wish. I expect many people will not agree with me...how about you?

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

The Tea Party is a large and growing group, mostly older Americans and has political clout...as witnessed in Scott Brown's upset victory. I see you lump them in as extremists which shows your silly view of things. The US Communists and Nazis might have 500 members if they're lucky. Russia was ruled by the communists for 80 years. See any difference?

You're right. I'm nothing special serving my country. I do think when someone says I'm not an American, it's fair to note I served as a counter to that comment. I know context does not mean much to you, but it does to me.

And you really are a trip, acting like someone's hosting a IWD party and I'm a gate crasher. This is an open forum and anyone is free to comment. I've yet to hear the OP ask me to stop posting. Probably because he has some common sense and realism about this forum.

And, as far as agitating in someone else's thread...you're the king. You post here to play your silly game. I'd guess you could care less. This is how you get attention.

I see he lumps them in with other political parties and beliefs. Our rights do not apply only to large groups and those with political influence, our rights most benefit those that are not popular and do not have political clout. That is why we have them. Popular groups with political clout don't need "protection". at least not as long as they are popular and have political clout. As that condition changes, the constitution guarantees it to all of us.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

I've heard how Vermonters speak English...so I'm not surprised they'd turn to anyone for help. Only problem might be teaching weights and measures. Like LUBS (lbs).

Fortunatey she is not a science teacher. So you think only Americans should teach English? You think only Americans should work? Teach. I am curious VV, where do you draw the line on that issue? Should a legal immigrant be prevented from applying her foreign education in this country? She IS a trained, educated and certified teacher who now resides in the USA. Maybe she should wipe your table at the restaraunt instead?

And if Americans are so good at English why the HELL do we use "lb." for an abbreviation for "pound"?

Your statement shows your ignorance of Vermont's consistently high ranking in education (albeit in the American system)

For the record...Vermont has three major industries. Agriculture, education and medicine. education employs the second most people in this state. Some 20% of the population of Burlington works for institutions of education. Another 20% are college/university students. Middlebury College has the premier Russian Language school in the USA (all our spies were trained there during the cold war) That makes education more influential in this state than the auto industry in Detroit, the oil industry in Houston, or the steel industry in Pittsburgh.

The medical industry supports all the canadians that flee the Canadian helath care system and come here. while we have a very small population, there is a city of 2 million (plus suburbs) just a few miles away and they all have crappy health care. More money for us!!!

Alexander Solgenietzen (sp?) moved to Vermont. The Von Trapp family fled the Nazis and moved to Vermont. we dcarry guns without permission from the government anywhere we want. We can talk on cell phones while driving and go naked in public if we want. sounds like a petty freedom loving place and destination for freedom loving people to me.

[Cixelsyd 1]

VV has withdrawn peacefully (discounting his last statement). We should let him do so without taking more lumps.

Not that you guys don't have valid statements to make.

Just hopefully if we let him leave without taking more of a beating, then he'll keep his negative comments to threads intent on being battle ground.

I know, strange coming from me.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

You weave a great fantasy. And like all fantasies, there is no truth or realness to them. I see you Moxifying this discussion. Taking it lower and lower into innuendo, insults and generally flooding the discussion with unfounded negative suggestions based only on your warped view of things. And you've again found a kindred playmate to join you in your silly game. Birds of a feather...

Well, well. My lovely wife, who could choose to be a lady of leisure, vacation in Ukraine/Russia anytime she wants for as long as she wants, instead knocks herself out learning to be a teacher of English, ond you run her down and her efforts to educate people, ignorantly insult the state we CHOOSE to live in (I could move today to anywhere I want) then say that someone else is lowering the standard? Do you think it is harder for her to be an Englsh teacher than an American...or easier? What do you think? You think she may have to work harder, study longer than a native born American in her class? I will re-iterate. She could chuck it all today and be a lady of leisure. Go shopping for a living. Spend the day in Montreal, drive down to Boston or New York. Go for a long walk. All of which she enjoys. But she does not. She was up 'till 1 am studying and up again at 6am today because she had a class to teach at 8am, and her lesson plan has to be reviewed and approved first. And she still cooks, cleans and makes every effort to be at our son's sports games, at least one of us is always there.

For the record, again, I am very proud of my wife who arrived only about 18 months ago and is now preparing to be an English teacher in the United States. She started her education 5 days after arriving. She works very hard at her education and does some other things to make a little money where she can, even though I can easily support us, she wants to contribute something to the family...at least to pay for "her stuff". So she serves our country by working as an interpreter for USCIS, ICE, local hospitals, government offices, etc., for very modest pay and is called several times a week for this. When someone speaking Russian is caught trying to smuggle something across the Canadian border, they call Alla to come and interpret. When a patient comes into the hospital speaking Russian with a medical problem, they call Alla to interpret. If YOUR wife were to need the services the St. Albans office and didn;t speak English well, they would call Alla to interpret.

She could spend most of the summer in Moscow or Donetsk, like she did last summer, but instead is saying she will stay here and cram school classes all summer to get her education finished. She gave up a trip to Ukraine at New Years because I was recovering from surgery, even though I could have been taken care of by others. She missed her last few days of classes before Christmas break because she was at the hospital with me and wouldn't leave. She made up the work later.

If you want to make snide, ignorant remarks about me...feel free. I am a bald, old (not so old and not fat) semi-retired, semi-wealthy guy who works as little as possible anymore. You can leave my wife out of it.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

The English measurement "pound" is derived from the Roman name "libra ponda," which was abbreviated as "lb." Somewhere along the line we lost the "libra" and "ponda" morphed into "pound." No idea why we kept the Roman abbreviation.

LMAO!

Thanks. I never knew that. I have a US public school educaton, sorry. I won't tell Alla because the metric otherwise works to my advantage.

PS, it is possible I knew it at one time and forgot.

[Ban Hammer 14,690]

1 bait/flame post and 1 post quoting it removed.

like the opening line to gnr's "civil war", --- "i don't like this any more than you do." please tone down the nature of the posts a bit so i'm not having to respond to reports and disrupt the flow of the thread.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Mox, I'm glad you have distanced yourself from the comments that, I judge, far exceeded boundaries of decency and mature commentary.

I will withdraw from this thread...we all need to know when to move on. Much of my continuing to post on here was replying to those who choose to engage me, rather than ignore me. Call it provocation.

I will close by observing that few men have actually posted in regards to IWD. I'd call it disappointing if I supported the holiday.

I took the day off work. And just to show how much I support it, I will take tomorrow off also. I win again.

[Martyshk 137]

1 bait/flame post and 1 post quoting it removed.

like the opening line to gnr's "civil war", --- "i don't like this any more than you do." please tone down the nature of the posts a bit so i'm not having to respond to reports and disrupt the flow of the thread.

Why do I have a feeling there's only 1 person who's very obsessed with hitting that report button on these forums?....

All in all, it'd be nice to have a good-intentioned thread not turn and sidetracked into something completely unrelated every time. It's been the same ####### for the past month or so. No matter the topic it turns into a debate on who's more patriotic lalalalalala.

meh....

[Cixelsyd 1]

I figured it would come to something like this. I actually predicted a locked thread, so I gave fair warning on IWD, but figured it would be somewhat polite to wait until after to dig in.

Look on the bright side though, we keep the mods in business.

[Ban Hammer 14,690]

Look on the bright side though, we keep the mods in business.

i'd rather be sleeping, i'm on night shift.

but i had to get up and go mail something today because a certain company that claims to be a tourist visa expert has shown they aren't, and today was the 3rd or 4th fedex i've had to send them with more papers, papers that suddenly seem to be required after they've received the latest package.

i think they are in cahoots with fedex.