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  1. 1. Do you think abortion should be....

    • Legal in ALL cases
      20
    • Illegal in ALL cases
      6
    • Legal in MOST cases (excluding late-term abortions)
      31
    • Illegal in MOST cases (excluding cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother's life)
      22
    • 0
    • 0
  2. 2. Abortion should be legal in these cases (Check all that apply)

    • Rape
      65
    • Incest
      62
    • Child to be born with mental disorder
      47
    • Parents financially unfit
      35
    • Whoopsy daisy, we think our baby is a mistake, bye now.
      32
    • Up to the mother to decide what she wants to do
      42
    • Child to be born with severe medical problems
      54
    • Teen pregnancy
      35
    • The mother's life is endangered if pregnancy continues
      66
    • Relationship problem among parents of baby
      30
    • Having the child will disrupt education and/or work
      31
    • None of these are good enough reasons to deny an unborn baby a life
      6
  3. 3. Age bracket and gender

    • Male: Under 20
      0
    • Male: 20-30
      4
    • Male: 30-40
      8
    • Male: 40-50
      10
    • Male: 50-60
      4
    • Male: 60 or up
      0
    • Female: Under 20
      0
    • Female: 20-30
      24
    • Female: 30-40
      21
    • Female: 40-50
      5
    • Female: 50-60
      3
    • Female: 60 or up
      0


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Legal in all cases, but you've missed the most important factor that is never properly addressed in discussion about abortion.

Should it be legally possible for the baby's father to overrule the abortion, if they were to sign papers agreeing to take full, sole custody and not pursue the mother for child support? Obvious exclusions would include cases where there is an endangerment to the mother's life, rape and/or incest.

I've always thought it unfair that the mother ultimately gets to decide to keep the baby, AND pursue the father for child support. Yup, I know that if you are gonna mess around you should assume responsibility for the possible outcome, but wow, it's not fair on guys.

lol. Knew there was a reason I liked you :P

This is one of the biggest issues I have. I honestly and sincerely believe that if the mother has the right to keep the child and force the father to pay child support irrespective of his opinion on it simply because "it's her body", then a father has the right to say "that's my sperm and you cannot destroy it" and "force" her to give birth to the child. She chose to have sex knowing the risk, as did he, so they should have equal say in what happens to "the baby". She simply has the biological ability to carry a child, I'm sure all sorts of hell would be raise if the situation were reversed.

I also don't like situation where the woman keeps the existence of child from him, and then goes to him a few years later demanding child support.

All that said, I think there should be a time limit on the ability to "sign over rights" so 5 years down the road you can't decide it's too hard unless the mum (or dad) agrees and wants you gone. I think all kids (even in married relationships) should have DNA tests carried out because the world is full of liars. If you make it standard then no-one will get offended.

Unfortunately it opens a lot of legalities here and there. Like if the father doesn't want to sign he knows its his, or in cases where he SAID he'd support it and doesn't. Or if a mum said she wants it but then changes her mind and all sorts of things, but I definitely think SOMETHING could be worked out, and I think it's only fair that if the whole "he helped create the baby" is used as a reason to pay child support, and "it's my body" is used to defend their right to abort, then guys should be given ALL the same rights. Right to choose to keep the baby, (within reason of course) and right to chose to not want anything to do with it (like the mother does when she aborts).

 

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