Boxer climate plan won't increase deficit -- CBO

[zqt3344 21]

Nina Nina Nina Nina! When a state cannot pay it's bills, and has to delay payments and has to send out IOU to vendors and then to taxpayers expecting an income tax refund, they are technically bankrupt. Open your eyes or are you financially ignorant.

And what is Barberella doing now for California, have you been outside and took a look around at California, it is bankrupt!

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

[Nina~ 431]

Nina Nina Nina Nina! When a state cannot pay it's bills, and has to delay payments and has to send out IOU to vendors and then to taxpayers expecting an income tax refund, they are technically bankrupt. Open your eyes or are you financially ignorant.

And what is Barberella doing now for California, have you been outside and took a look around at California, it is bankrupt!

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

There is a difference between declaring bankruptcy and being in debt.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Nina Nina Nina Nina! When a state cannot pay it's bills, and has to delay payments and has to send out IOU to vendors and then to taxpayers expecting an income tax refund, they are technically bankrupt. Open your eyes or are you financially ignorant.

And what is Barberella doing now for California, have you been outside and took a look around at California, it is bankrupt!

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

That is also not the fault, or even jurisdiction of our two senators. That is the realm of the GOVERNOR, who happens to be a Republican. Carly Fiorina was not a good CEO by any metric. She outsourced tens of thousands of jobs overseas and virtually ran the company into the ground. She was forced out in disgrace. Maybe in your world, that is a good qualification, but not in any sort of reality I live in.

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Nina Nina Nina Nina! When a state cannot pay it's bills, and has to delay payments and has to send out IOU to vendors and then to taxpayers expecting an income tax refund, they are technically bankrupt. Open your eyes or are you financially ignorant.

And what is Barberella doing now for California, have you been outside and took a look around at California, it is bankrupt!

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

There is a difference between declaring bankruptcy and being in debt.

That's true. Being in debt is when you can still pay your bills. So California is bankrupt.

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Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

A better analysis is that Californians don't want higher taxes but want more government spending. It's true in other states but California is given to extremes.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Nina Nina Nina Nina! When a state cannot pay it's bills, and has to delay payments and has to send out IOU to vendors and then to taxpayers expecting an income tax refund, they are technically bankrupt. Open your eyes or are you financially ignorant.

And what is Barberella doing now for California, have you been outside and took a look around at California, it is bankrupt!

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

There is a difference between declaring bankruptcy and being in debt.

That's true. Being in debt is when you can still pay your bills. So California is bankrupt.

As per the traditional definition of bankruptcy, no, they are not. They could raise the funds to pay off all debtors. However, a vast majority of residents would be very upset.

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Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

that is a very dumb response. she surely can't be any worse than a lot of the career politicians out there.

and so what if she sent jobs overseas, the dem backed unions have sent far more jobs out of the USA than Carly.

[DEDixon 39]

And what is Barberella doing now for California, have you been outside and took a look around at California, it is bankrupt!

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

Ignorant much? here is a newsflash for you... California hasnt declared bankruptcy!!! The biggest reason for their fiscals woes are because of Prop 13 (1978).

and prop 13 keeps retirees in their homes and in the community in which they grew up and where their family is.... so you support pushing retirees out of their homes i see. that is a very insensitive position.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

that is a very dumb response. she surely can't be any worse than a lot of the career politicians out there.

and so what if she sent jobs overseas, the dem backed unions have sent far more jobs out of the USA than Carly.

OK, so by your definition a successful CEO is one that nearly bankrupted the company? Real smart decision in selecting her. To be fair, she isn't even the clear cut favorite to win the republican primary. Chuck Devore is a much better candidate. He's not your stereotypical republican, and will pull a lot of independants in this state. I'd actually vote for him.

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[DEDixon 39]

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

that is a very dumb response. she surely can't be any worse than a lot of the career politicians out there.

and so what if she sent jobs overseas, the dem backed unions have sent far more jobs out of the USA than Carly.

OK, so by your definition a successful CEO is one that nearly bankrupted the company? Real smart decision in selecting her. To be fair, she isn't even the clear cut favorite to win the republican primary. Chuck Devore is a much better candidate. He's not your stereotypical republican, and will pull a lot of independants in this state. I'd actually vote for him.

i'm sorry, but i don't remember that she nearly bankrupted HP. Please, show me. I think you are greatly overstating.

and i'm also saying that to get to a CEO position, she isn't any less capable than a lot of the career politicians out there. my god, she paved the way for other women to follow. she was the first to lead a fortune "20" company!

maybe she did mess up as CEO. maybe it was the time in which she was CEO and it would have been a challenge for anyone to do any better. she started as CEO in 1999, at the beginning of the dot com bust and during 9/11 so not the best of years. HP did end up taking over compaq toward the end of her stint so she couldn't have been that bad of a CEO to get people to go with her on the deal. Also, in 2000, she wanted to buy EDS but she dropped that deal because others didn't want to go along, but HP bought EDS in 2008.

she was CEO for 6 years and i don't think you or anyone else would want your entire life defined by 6 of your worst years.

i could really care less about her and i don't care if she gets elected, however i know that she is beyond capable for the US Senate.

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and Chuck Devore is just a career politician. he has not accomplished anything near what Carly has accomplished in life.

i really don't understand the love for career politicians.... one reason among many more i hope jerry fvcking brown doesn't get to be gov of california for the second time.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Is Fiorina the best that Righties have got.. that is sad! I remember when she was the CEO Hewlett Packard and sent a lot of their jobs overseas till she was forced to resign.

that is a very dumb response. she surely can't be any worse than a lot of the career politicians out there.

and so what if she sent jobs overseas, the dem backed unions have sent far more jobs out of the USA than Carly.

OK, so by your definition a successful CEO is one that nearly bankrupted the company? Real smart decision in selecting her. To be fair, she isn't even the clear cut favorite to win the republican primary. Chuck Devore is a much better candidate. He's not your stereotypical republican, and will pull a lot of independants in this state. I'd actually vote for him.

i'm sorry, but i don't remember that she nearly bankrupted HP. Please, show me. I think you are greatly overstating.

and i'm also saying that to get to a CEO position, she isn't any less capable than a lot of the career politicians out there. my god, she paved the way for other women to follow. she was the first to lead a fortune "20" company!

maybe she did mess up as CEO. maybe it was the time in which she was CEO and it would have been a challenge for anyone to do any better. she started as CEO in 1999, at the beginning of the dot com bust and during 9/11 so not the best of years. HP did end up taking over compaq toward the end of her stint so she couldn't have been that bad of a CEO to get people to go with her on the deal. Also, in 2000, she wanted to buy EDS but she dropped that deal because others didn't want to go along, but HP bought EDS in 2008.

she was CEO for 6 years and i don't think you or anyone else would want your entire life defined by 6 of your worst years.

i could really care less about her and i don't care if she gets elected, however i know that she is beyond capable for the US Senate.

Carly Fiorina's decision making is what resulted in HP's stock and company value dropped by more than half. The mere news of her firing helped recover the stock value. HP was NOT significantly effected during the dot.com burst. If anything, the market for computers has significantly increased during her tenure with computer systems becoming more pervasive. The bottom line is, she was a great vice-president, but a poor CEO. In her case, much as many others, she was victim of the Peter Princliple.

She would probably be a good candidate for State Controller, but she has always courted the attention and wants to be center stage. Her candidacy has been a long plan of hers which was no doubt trying to ride the McCain campaign coatails last year.

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She would be a good candidate at any level... including president.

i can't see how she can be any less capable than our current president or i'm sure you agree our last president. our current president is intelligent, but his experience in life is tiny compared to carly and a lot of others. seriously, if obama can be president, a lot of folks out there are qualified.

all these folks or 99 percent of them are center stage types so i'm not sure how that makes her any different than the rest.

i like how you backed off the "bankruptcy" comment. fair enough, thanks.

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forgot to say, i hope boxer loses.............. enough is enough for this career politician.

[The_Dude 1,142]

She would be a good candidate at any level... including president.

i can't see how she can be any less capable than our current president or i'm sure you agree our last president. our current president is intelligent, but his experience in life is tiny compared to carly and a lot of others. seriously, if obama can be president, a lot of folks out there are qualified.

all these folks or 99 percent of them are center stage types so i'm not sure how that makes her any different than the rest.

i like how you backed off the "bankruptcy" comment. fair enough, thanks.

Yes, I said it for effect. However, how can you say that she is a qualified leader when under her leadership, the company that she was charged with leading decreased in value by half? That by any metric is the definition of a failure. She failed the stockholders, and she failed the employees that she was to lead. On another note, I don't think that business success translates well into politics. I certainly don't think that she is qualified to be president. Look up the peter principle, it certainly applies to Fiorina.