Ohio Senator response from CSC

[joseph22 0]

If petitions are not being processed with some sense of NOA1's in tow, then there is a massive massive problem at hand. It wouldnt matter if approvals started coming out...if they allowed ANYONE who had a March NOA1 wait another couple months while approving petitions from May, or even June, then you can sure as hell bet that CSC would recieve beaurocratic anger directed at them as never before!

I dont understand this posting. What became of the NUMEROUS posts over the last several weeks of VJ'ers responses from senators that clearly stated original NOA1's would be honored?? Please dont compare CSC to VSC as the pipeline is clearly different. I WAS touched yesterday (7/20), so it would make sense that perhaps our petition finally made it to an adjucators desk. Though if that was based on when they recieved our RFE, I would be horrified, not happy (as our NOA1 is 3/27). Sorry to vent, but for those of you getting pissed over not being adjucated with NOA1's of May and later at this point....!!!....you arent even close to the ORIGINAL projected timeline of approval.

I want to see some action come out of CSC very soon...but I can assure you, if April, May, June, NOA1's start getting aprovals before March, all hell is going to be raised!

[jen&darcy 0]

joseph22,

You have to remember something though. For some of us that filed in Nebraska, I was given a processing time of 60-90 days. Guess what? I am at 90 days. So I am whining about this and I am in April. However, I do agree that they should go by NOA1 date but I can't control how they process the petitions.

[sbgwolf1 0]

If petitions are not being processed with some sense of NOA1's in tow, then there is a massive massive problem at hand. It wouldnt matter if approvals started coming out...if they allowed ANYONE who had a March NOA1 wait another couple months while approving petitions from May, or even June, then you can sure as hell bet that CSC would recieve beaurocratic anger directed at them as never before!

I dont understand this posting. What became of the NUMEROUS posts over the last several weeks of VJ'ers responses from senators that clearly stated original NOA1's would be honored?? Please dont compare CSC to VSC as the pipeline is clearly different. I WAS touched yesterday (7/20), so it would make sense that perhaps our petition finally made it to an adjucators desk. Though if that was based on when they recieved our RFE, I would be horrified, not happy (as our NOA1 is 3/27). Sorry to vent, but for those of you getting pissed over not being adjucated with NOA1's of May and later at this point....!!!....you arent even close to the ORIGINAL projected timeline of approval.

I want to see some action come out of CSC very soon...but I can assure you, if April, May, June, NOA1's start getting aprovals before March, all hell is going to be raised!

My date is 3/29 so I am EXACTLY where you are. Believe me, I am tired of may/june apps being approved while I wait for my baby. Yet, if CSC does anything right now, I would be somewhat relieved. NO, I dont want people after me going first. But then again, every one moves them closer to mine (in theory). YES, there would be calls for answers.

[William33 110]

'jen&darcy'

Than you can certainly understand the frustration of joseph22, in that people may get approval in front of others that have not waited as long. That is the crux of his point.

I am originally NSC as well, and being at 121 days is not sitting well right now.

If I saw a June approval, I would be furious, not with the recipient of course, but with USCIS.

joseph22,

You have to remember something though. For some of us that filed in Nebraska, I was given a processing time of 60-90 days. Guess what? I am at 90 days. So I am whining about this and I am in April. However, I do agree that they should go by NOA1 date but I can't control how they process the petitions.

[jen&darcy 0]

I understand perfectly William33. No worries!

If you look at when I joined this forum, you will see how long I have been waiting for this process to go through myself. Yes, I didn't file until April but I have been trying to file since MARCH 2005.

Edited July 21, 2006 by jen&darcy

[texasseoul 0]

I agree with Joseph22. My NOA1 date is 3/29. RFE date 7/11. Of course I was traveling to see my future wife while my RFE just baked in the mailbox. I sure he$$ hope they don't process by RFE date but honor the FIFO NOA1 dates. I am at 116 dates or so and this is ridiculous. My processing time frame was supposed to be 90 - 120 days. So I have 4 days or so for my NOA2. I would be happy if I get it before September though. Wishful thinking.

I don't think the senators offices know anymore than we do. They tell you whatever they need to get you off the phone.

[William33 110]

It's all good!

Wow, since March 2005? Well, glad to see things are moving forward for you all.

I understand perfectly William33. No worries!

If you look at when I joined this forum, you will see how long I have been waiting for this process to go through myself. Yes, I didn't file until April but I have been trying to file since MARCH 2005.

[joseph22 0]

I think a point to keep in mind, is that although the original message that started this post is based on one person's conversation with their aid, you have to look at the bigger picture. Consider that if NOA1's were not honored, what would be the point of the processing date updates from USCIS ...they would completely throw out there system entirely, which seems neither reasonable or likely. Why would they change to say they are now processing petitions recieved on March 6th, if they were actually processing those recieved in say April, or May. Would CSC REALLY believe that March folks wouldnt take note of this? I mean...this processing by RFE nonsense just doesnt add up.

Also consider that a huge number of RFE's were sent out simultaneously. So, is that to say that the 2,000 RFE's (speculative number btw) recieved back on July 5 and 6 are going to be processed in a giant pile simultaneously and they wont update the "now processing" site for USCIS until October? I highly doubt it. My point is, every time someone hears from an outside source that something is happening, we go into a frenzy of expectation (as is natural). All things considered, those who have early NOA1's should logically be the only ones really exepecting some concrete action soon...I think people shoud keep that in mind before they go nuts over whats fair or not with their case....

...I would like to say though, this is by no means an attack on anyone who has a later NOA1 date than me. If I had submitted yesterday I'd still be freaking out! I'm just overtly frustrated, and though appreciate everyone's updates and 3rd party info, sometimes I feel like we're not all even in the same boat anymore because of this IMBRA mess. Lets just hope it works out in a fair way REALLY soon!

Edited July 21, 2006 by joseph22

[jen&darcy 0]

I agree Joseph22.

I really don't think the Senators are feeding us a line of bull though. If anything it is CSC feeding the Senators a line of bull if what they are telling them isn't true. The aide I spoke to (which is from Ohio) was totally understanding and willing to listen. Him and I talked for about 15 minutes. I asked him lots of questions and he said if I had anymore to feel free and call him back. Maybe I am gullible but I truly felt like he was listening to what I had to say and the concerns I had. I truly felt better after talking to him.

I guess time will tell if CSC was in fact telling the Senators the truth or if it was just another lie.

[William33 110]

Many good points out there.

In my opinion, the common theme on many posts and some instances of "feedback" from elected officials, has offered some insight of disparity in the processing. Although some elected officials tend to carry a common BS theme. I realize that VSC and CSC are different offices, but VSC is already processing out of order.

In addition, did the RFE's go out from CSC in order? Absolutely not. When you evaluate the factual information, not the "feedback" it adds up to a rather unfair process. I find it hard to believe that if CSC sent the RFE's out of order, that they will actually approve petitions in order of NOA-1's.

Edited July 21, 2006 by William33

[joseph22 0]

For those folks thinking that processing based on RFE recieved is going to actually BENEFIT them cuz they sent in way later and could potentially get ahead of an earlier NOA1, I wouldnt be so sure....to do so means there is no logic to go on, and no claims that can be made on your case, Without a cohesive system to go off of.

Let me propose this...is it possible they meant the RFE itself was going to be processed in order of reciept? That makes a bit of sense. That would consequently complete some petitions (early one maybe) and put others back on track properly....

s anyone ever write directly to CSC?

Whenever I do to inquire something, they write back really quick, like the next day.

The message is usually a bit cryptic, but if we all wrote the same question "Will petitions be processed in order of NOA1 reciept date after RFE is recieved?" then maybe it would squeeze a response out...I dunno. Or atleast make them rethink their mixed responses to Senators.

I keep referring to the many Senator's response just after RFE's went out that they were going to be processed in order of NOA1 date AFTER the RFE came in...meaning you dont wait for a march 6th RFE before going to a March 7th, but if they are both in, the earlier comes first. THAT made sense.

Doing a mass initial sending of RFE, regardless of NOA1 DOES make sense as it puts all the relevant IMBRA affected petitions back into the catalogue as quickly as possible. Once they figured out what they were going to do, the applied it more or less to everyone simultaneously. One woudl think that step complete, they'd retain the logical date based system to continue. They simply would not be able to maintain order otherwise. Remembber that they DID update their processing time the other day to March 6th, and the conditions of contacting them in regards to that date still apply.

I DO believe that Senators are as misinformed as us...I really do. There is no other explanation for this discrepancy in processing information. I refuse to believe anything until hard NOA2's come out. Then I'll decide how intensely to freak out!

I dunno, perhaps I'm just spinning my wheels now.

Edited July 21, 2006 by joseph22

[Jim1969 0]

I just got off the phone with Senator Levin's office again. The office did confirm that from what they were told.........NO2s are being processed in order the RFEs have been coming back. It sounds like they are so slammed at CSC that they just want to get them completed.

As she points out that is assuming that there are absolutely no problems with your case. Any additional background checks, IMBRA issues, etc.

She also said that she knows for a fact that CSC is processing cases right now. We just cannot see them at our website and these are people that she has been talking to in her district.

[joseph22 0]

I just got off the phone with Senator Levin's office again. The office did confirm that from what they were told.........NO2s are being processed in order the RFEs have been coming back. It sounds like they are so slammed at CSC that they just want to get them completed.

Totally nuts! How does processing in order of RFE dates help them complete the backlog????? So at what point do they retain the original system of NOA1's? After ever petition is out of CSC? Obviously this is a redundant question that we dont know the answer to....What would be interesting is to see such a mass lot of NOA2's come out simultaneously as to prove that the system shouldnt ever take as long as it does and they can approve 10,000 petitions in 30-45 days?! Its almost laughable how disorganized they are.

I can only assume that they did work on many of the petitions (background checks etc) before the RFE leaving just the RFE to process. Perhaps that explains how some April/May got RFE's same time as March...they were all technically ready for approval before IMBRA. Its so bizarre my mind is just not getting it.

Senator Levin's response would also imply that we should be seeing NOA2's almost immediately, unless it takes days and days for a single petition, in which case it wont be done until sometime in 2015.

Edited July 21, 2006 by joseph22

[YnaYeBa0808 0]

my RFE was Received by CSC on the 29th of june...got the official email that they have gotten it on the 30th... all this anticipation... uuuuuugh! hahaha

thanks devilette for the information that you have shared. hopefully it is true. i guess we'll have to wait some more to find out.

You're welcome.

KEEP US POSTED - you are one of the first for sure.

lets all keep our fingers crossed.... huggs... devilette despite your username i hope you have a tongue of an angel.... hihihi I will keep you posted for sure. I think if i am not mistaken, there are four of us that i know of who have received the RFE on the 28th and mailed it back on the same day...

[joseph22 0]

KEEP US POSTED - you are one of the first for sure.

I think if i am not mistaken, there are four of us that i know of who have received the RFE on the 28th and mailed it back on the same day...

CSC has turned getting to be with your loved one into a race of who got to the mailbox first.

This is pathetic.