Dueling threads

[Veiled Princess 1]

Jer - rey! Jer - rey! Jer - rey!

[CarolineM 0]

Oh, I can stand the heat

Yet you've made a new ID to remain anonymous?? I mean, did I read that right??

[Veiled Princess 1]

He who wears flamable PJ's, should not start flame wars

[Dixie_Peach 1]

[Jer - rey! Jer - rey! Jer - rey!

steven_and_jinky... YOU CRACK ME UP!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Oh, I can stand the heat. But I think with all thats going on over there that some emotions are running a little "high". It's no skin off my nose if some people want to argue endlessly but it does get to be a little tiresome to see it escalate into a endless flame war. I don't see the purpose of it all other than to get both sides pissed off. But, thats just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth, nothing.

I'm not even sure I agree there really are (or should be) two sides - these things invariably come down to entrenched and diametrically opposed world views, which (I think) obscures the fact that issues like this one are far from clear cut - especially in the middle east, where there is a good deal of history contextualising the current events.

These days everyone seems to have an opinion on terrorism, but what I think often gets forgotten is that this is really business as usual in the middle east. 9/11 really only changed perceptions for people in the US.

One thing I do not think is justifiable is painting an entire people (and culture) with a broad brush, which some posters - specifically Risto seem intent on doing. Nothing wrong with a good debate, but the definition of debate does not generally include posting inflammatory one line comments (about how Israel should kill more Palestinians, or how "'that" group of people are 'uncivilised and barbaric'), links to racist websites and the like. On an immigration based forum - with a diverse international membership marginalising and insulting a whole section VJ members is rather below the belt in my view, and highly inappropriate.

Edited July 20, 2006 by erekose

[Luvinmybaby 0]

I'm not even sure I agree there really are (or should be) two sides - these things invariably come down to entrenched and diametrically opposed world views, which (I think) obscures the fact that issues like this one are far from clear cut - especially in the middle east, where there is a good deal of history contextualising the current events.

These days everyone seems to have an opinion on terrorism, but what I think often gets forgotten is that this is really business as usual in the middle east. 9/11 really only changed perceptions for people in the US.

One thing I do not think is justifiable is painting an entire people (and culture) with a broad brush, which some posters - specifically Risto seem intent on doing. Nothing wrong with a good debate, but the definition of debate does not generally include posting inflammatory one line comments (about how Israel should kill more Palestinians, or how "'that" group of people are 'uncivilised and barbaric'), links to racist websites and the like. On an immigration based forum - with a diverse international membership marginalising and insulting a whole section VJ members is rather below the belt in my view, and highly inappropriate.

You hit the nail on the head Fishdude. I love a good debate as much as anyone else and I do come down hard on one side of this topic. But when it gets to the point when neither side is going to give it then breaks down to a hurtful name calling flame war thats where I get out of it. That helps no one and only serves to hurt and cause pain. If the debate is civil and honest then I say go for it. But when its only insults and name calling then it seems the collective IQ of the topic drops to zero.

[babybunny 2]

That helps no one and only serves to hurt and cause pain. If the debate is civil and honest then I say go for it. But when its only insults and name calling then it seems the collective IQ of the topic drops to zero.

what hell kind of pain do you feel reading a message board? other than burning eyes? I hardly

think you felt the pain of my foot up your azzz.

[Luvinmybaby 0]

what hell kind of pain do you feel reading a message board? other than burning eyes? I hardly

think you felt the pain of my foot up your azzz.

From another thread:

Risto, Veiled Princess-

You both are pressing each other's buttons and it is obvious you will not agree on most anything. That said as adults you can both find ways to respect that other people will not always agree with you. Chances are that neither of you will convince the other of your perspective. Just be sure while posting to rescpect that the other person can have their own thoughts and that if you disagree you are able to give your arguement with supporting evidence.

Bottom line, by letting your emotions get the better of you, you not only weaken your arguement but you cross the line by personally attacking the other member which hurts this board. Please be warned that continuing to do this could result in a locked out account for a few days. I think you are both probably great people . I am sure if you take a few moments before you reply to each other you will not end up flaming back and forth.

I think he was saying the same thing here. A little maturity is in order here.

Edited July 20, 2006 by Luvinmybaby

[gimygirl 0]

besides .... wasn't princess blahblah another one that posted the *stomps foot* 'i'm leaving VJ' post?!?!?

[Veiled Princess 1]

besides .... wasn't princess blahblah another one that posted the *stomps foot* 'i'm leaving VJ' post?!?!?

No, what I said was I wasn't going to visit another section.... why do I keep hitting the "view this post" button?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... princess blahblah ...

Now, now, how disrespectful!

[Veiled Princess 1]

[Now, now, how disrespectful!

Haha it's OK... I sling insults I can surely take them

To an extent

[Sharon 1]

... princess blahblah ...

Now, now, how disrespectful!

*snarf*

[babybunny 2]

... princess blahblah ...

Now, now, how disrespectful!

I agree she said the name wrong. its

blahblah princess.

[Laura_and_IanM 0]

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!

LJ...sorry..i was just passin thru masta....