Why Fox News isn't news

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Responding to a question with a question is poor for Joe. He called you out on your ####### and now you can't even own up to it. Find any evidence to prove what he asked you, Otherwise, stfu. Did you happen to visit whitehouse.gov over the past 12 years? It had virtually no information other than a small bio on staff members and highlight points about things they wanted to tout.

I'm sorry what ####### is he calling me on? His posts read like ####### because he doesn't read #######. lol! He didn't even address what Fox News Network has done wrong which I clearly point out in my second post. Anyways I'm not interested in debating off topics in this thread. I'm interested in discussing Fox News and the special privileges they think their network is allowed with newsgathering.

What special privileges are they asking for? They need no one. They don't even need the President there in order to be on top.

They aren't asking they're taking special privileges in news gathering. The Network promotes, organizes and create events targeting the US government. Then said network reports on said events. The special privilege this network thinks it gets in it's newsgathering is reporting on their own events. It is news they create within their network and branch affiliates and not news they simply report. It's misrepresentation and it's unethical and potentially unlawful if this goes to court as other cases similar to this have. We make laws for citizens not the journalist. Journalist don't have special privileges for gathering news. There are actual statuary laws that if they break they can be brought on criminal charges. Journalist have the same amount of access to information as the citizen no more no less. They have to fill out FOIA forms just like the rest of us to gain access to information.

There are no formal rule of laws as to what is legitimate media yet, but there are discussions as to what are the ethical journalistic standards. Journalist aren't licensed or required to take an exam to meet any particular qualifications to practice their trade. It is their work that defines a legitimate journalist or media. It's true most are in the business to make money and be a watchdog and champion of justice but their main function is to inform the public. Not to have a political agenda within their network that they promote, organize, and report on. That's where the network crosses the line and the White House has said Rupert Murdoch is the enemy because it's his network. All those shows on that network are his liability including all the reporters and commentators.

Any "moderate" liberals care to take this one down? Fox news organizes tea-parties and anti-government events, and funds them? Anyone ? Or are you going to let a lie go - because you hate Fox anyway, so even if its a lie its ok?

[DeadPoolX 9]

I see it this way: NO media organization is unbiased. All forms of media -- newspaper, TV, radio, Internet -- are run by people. As much as some people might like to believe they're nonpartisan and objective in their reporting, they simply can't be that way. Why? Because we're human beings and as such, we all have our beliefs. Those beliefs often come through when the news media reports on a situation. Even if the bias was unintentional, it still shows through at some point.

Edited October 29, 2009 by DeadPoolX

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well yes - they are all biased. But...

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Is it a lie because they don't do so? I'd not know either way, as I'm not into making a fool of myself due to an irrational fear of the Obama.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Responding to a question with a question is poor for Joe. He called you out on your ####### and now you can't even own up to it. Find any evidence to prove what he asked you, Otherwise, stfu. Did you happen to visit whitehouse.gov over the past 12 years? It had virtually no information other than a small bio on staff members and highlight points about things they wanted to tout.

I'm sorry what ####### is he calling me on? His posts read like ####### because he doesn't read #######. lol! He didn't even address what Fox News Network has done wrong which I clearly point out in my second post. Anyways I'm not interested in debating off topics in this thread. I'm interested in discussing Fox News and the special privileges they think their network is allowed with newsgathering.

What special privileges are they asking for? They need no one. They don't even need the President there in order to be on top.

They aren't asking they're taking special privileges in news gathering. The Network promotes, organizes and create events targeting the US government. Then said network reports on said events. The special privilege this network thinks it gets in it's newsgathering is reporting on their own events. It is news they create within their network and branch affiliates and not news they simply report. It's misrepresentation and it's unethical and potentially unlawful if this goes to court as other cases similar to this have. We make laws for citizens not the journalist. Journalist don't have special privileges for gathering news. There are actual statuary laws that if they break they can be brought on criminal charges. Journalist have the same amount of access to information as the citizen no more no less. They have to fill out FOIA forms just like the rest of us to gain access to information.

There are no formal rule of laws as to what is legitimate media yet, but there are discussions as to what are the ethical journalistic standards. Journalist aren't licensed or required to take an exam to meet any particular qualifications to practice their trade. It is their work that defines a legitimate journalist or media. It's true most are in the business to make money and be a watchdog and champion of justice but their main function is to inform the public. Not to have a political agenda within their network that they promote, organize, and report on. That's where the network crosses the line and the White House has said Rupert Murdoch is the enemy because it's his network. All those shows on that network are his liability including all the reporters and commentators.

Any "moderate" liberals care to take this one down? Fox news organizes tea-parties and anti-government events, and funds them? Anyone ? Or are you going to let a lie go - because you hate Fox anyway, so even if its a lie its ok?

Better yet why don't you use a FOIA form just like any citizen or journalist can do and request the information yourself to get the facts so that you can see for yourself what the network is guilty of doing.

Edited October 29, 2009 by ~Flower~

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Responding to a question with a question is poor for Joe. He called you out on your ####### and now you can't even own up to it. Find any evidence to prove what he asked you, Otherwise, stfu. Did you happen to visit whitehouse.gov over the past 12 years? It had virtually no information other than a small bio on staff members and highlight points about things they wanted to tout.

I'm sorry what ####### is he calling me on? His posts read like ####### because he doesn't read #######. lol! He didn't even address what Fox News Network has done wrong which I clearly point out in my second post. Anyways I'm not interested in debating off topics in this thread. I'm interested in discussing Fox News and the special privileges they think their network is allowed with newsgathering.

What special privileges are they asking for? They need no one. They don't even need the President there in order to be on top.

They aren't asking they're taking special privileges in news gathering. The Network promotes, organizes and create events targeting the US government. Then said network reports on said events. The special privilege this network thinks it gets in it's newsgathering is reporting on their own events. It is news they create within their network and branch affiliates and not news they simply report. It's misrepresentation and it's unethical and potentially unlawful if this goes to court as other cases similar to this have. We make laws for citizens not the journalist. Journalist don't have special privileges for gathering news. There are actual statuary laws that if they break they can be brought on criminal charges. Journalist have the same amount of access to information as the citizen no more no less. They have to fill out FOIA forms just like the rest of us to gain access to information.

There are no formal rule of laws as to what is legitimate media yet, but there are discussions as to what are the ethical journalistic standards. Journalist aren't licensed or required to take an exam to meet any particular qualifications to practice their trade. It is their work that defines a legitimate journalist or media. It's true most are in the business to make money and be a watchdog and champion of justice but their main function is to inform the public. Not to have a political agenda within their network that they promote, organize, and report on. That's where the network crosses the line and the White House has said Rupert Murdoch is the enemy because it's his network. All those shows on that network are his liability including all the reporters and commentators.

Any "moderate" liberals care to take this one down? Fox news organizes tea-parties and anti-government events, and funds them? Anyone ? Or are you going to let a lie go - because you hate Fox anyway, so even if its a lie its ok?

Better yet why don't you use a FOIA form just like any citizen or journalist can do and request the information yourself to get the facts so that you can see for yourself what the network is guilty of doing.

You are a liar.

And all you liberals towing the line for this BS are showing your true colors. You know there is nothing to substantiate what she is saying. Call FNC right wing, conservative, etc etc.. Fine, but now you are supporting someone who is blatently lying and making up BS because of it.

Anyone else you DEMAND proof, but actual libel against FNC is ok, and you just sit there

because after all you hate them anyway. Bunch of hypocrites.

I'm not going to query FNC everytime you lie about them.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Joseph & Ana

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Woa!

Olivia just got Joe Wilsoned!

Now it seems we'll have to have someone post the numbers...

Being in that particular background I think maybe she knows what is subject to an FOIA and what isn't...

[nowhereman 1]

####### is a Moderate Liberal? Is that like being semi-pregnant?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

In before the lock!

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Responding to a question with a question is poor for Joe. He called you out on your ####### and now you can't even own up to it. Find any evidence to prove what he asked you, Otherwise, stfu. Did you happen to visit whitehouse.gov over the past 12 years? It had virtually no information other than a small bio on staff members and highlight points about things they wanted to tout.

I'm sorry what ####### is he calling me on? His posts read like ####### because he doesn't read #######. lol! He didn't even address what Fox News Network has done wrong which I clearly point out in my second post. Anyways I'm not interested in debating off topics in this thread. I'm interested in discussing Fox News and the special privileges they think their network is allowed with newsgathering.

What special privileges are they asking for? They need no one. They don't even need the President there in order to be on top.

They aren't asking they're taking special privileges in news gathering. The Network promotes, organizes and create events targeting the US government. Then said network reports on said events. The special privilege this network thinks it gets in it's newsgathering is reporting on their own events. It is news they create within their network and branch affiliates and not news they simply report. It's misrepresentation and it's unethical and potentially unlawful if this goes to court as other cases similar to this have. We make laws for citizens not the journalist. Journalist don't have special privileges for gathering news. There are actual statuary laws that if they break they can be brought on criminal charges. Journalist have the same amount of access to information as the citizen no more no less. They have to fill out FOIA forms just like the rest of us to gain access to information.

There are no formal rule of laws as to what is legitimate media yet, but there are discussions as to what are the ethical journalistic standards. Journalist aren't licensed or required to take an exam to meet any particular qualifications to practice their trade. It is their work that defines a legitimate journalist or media. It's true most are in the business to make money and be a watchdog and champion of justice but their main function is to inform the public. Not to have a political agenda within their network that they promote, organize, and report on. That's where the network crosses the line and the White House has said Rupert Murdoch is the enemy because it's his network. All those shows on that network are his liability including all the reporters and commentators.

Any "moderate" liberals care to take this one down? Fox news organizes tea-parties and anti-government events, and funds them? Anyone ? Or are you going to let a lie go - because you hate Fox anyway, so even if its a lie its ok?

Better yet why don't you use a FOIA form just like any citizen or journalist can do and request the information yourself to get the facts so that you can see for yourself what the network is guilty of doing.

You are a liar.

And all you liberals towing the line for this BS are showing your true colors. You know there is nothing to substantiate what she is saying. Call FNC right wing, conservative, etc etc.. Fine, but now you are supporting someone who is blatently lying and making up BS because of it.

Anyone else you DEMAND proof, but actual libel against FNC is ok, and you just sit there

because after all you hate them anyway. Bunch of hypocrites.

I'm not going to query FNC everytime you lie about them.

I was waiting to see if you or anyone else would catch the error in my last statement because then I'd tell if you knew what we're talking about. Obviously from the answer you provided you know nothing about this topic and need to see your way out the conversation. Also before the Fox Network could even begin a lawsuit against me or anyone else for that matter for libel on this subject they would have to begin with the White House.

Woa!

Being in that particular background I think maybe she knows what is subject to an FOIA and what isn't...

See someone knows.

[nowhereman 1]

I was waiting to see if you or anyone else would catch the error in my last statement because then I'd tell if you knew what we're talking about. Obviously from the answer you provided you know nothing about this topic and need to see your way out the conversation.

Joe is an expert on this subject and everyone else is a moron. Want proof? Just ask him!

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[Joseph & Ana 0]

Responding to a question with a question is poor for Joe. He called you out on your ####### and now you can't even own up to it. Find any evidence to prove what he asked you, Otherwise, stfu. Did you happen to visit whitehouse.gov over the past 12 years? It had virtually no information other than a small bio on staff members and highlight points about things they wanted to tout.

I'm sorry what ####### is he calling me on? His posts read like ####### because he doesn't read #######. lol! He didn't even address what Fox News Network has done wrong which I clearly point out in my second post. Anyways I'm not interested in debating off topics in this thread. I'm interested in discussing Fox News and the special privileges they think their network is allowed with newsgathering.

What special privileges are they asking for? They need no one. They don't even need the President there in order to be on top.

They aren't asking they're taking special privileges in news gathering. The Network promotes, organizes and create events targeting the US government. Then said network reports on said events. The special privilege this network thinks it gets in it's newsgathering is reporting on their own events. It is news they create within their network and branch affiliates and not news they simply report. It's misrepresentation and it's unethical and potentially unlawful if this goes to court as other cases similar to this have. We make laws for citizens not the journalist. Journalist don't have special privileges for gathering news. There are actual statuary laws that if they break they can be brought on criminal charges. Journalist have the same amount of access to information as the citizen no more no less. They have to fill out FOIA forms just like the rest of us to gain access to information.

There are no formal rule of laws as to what is legitimate media yet, but there are discussions as to what are the ethical journalistic standards. Journalist aren't licensed or required to take an exam to meet any particular qualifications to practice their trade. It is their work that defines a legitimate journalist or media. It's true most are in the business to make money and be a watchdog and champion of justice but their main function is to inform the public. Not to have a political agenda within their network that they promote, organize, and report on. That's where the network crosses the line and the White House has said Rupert Murdoch is the enemy because it's his network. All those shows on that network are his liability including all the reporters and commentators.

Any "moderate" liberals care to take this one down? Fox news organizes tea-parties and anti-government events, and funds them? Anyone ? Or are you going to let a lie go - because you hate Fox anyway, so even if its a lie its ok?

Better yet why don't you use a FOIA form just like any citizen or journalist can do and request the information yourself to get the facts so that you can see for yourself what the network is guilty of doing.

You are a liar.

And all you liberals towing the line for this BS are showing your true colors. You know there is nothing to substantiate what she is saying. Call FNC right wing, conservative, etc etc.. Fine, but now you are supporting someone who is blatently lying and making up BS because of it.

Anyone else you DEMAND proof, but actual libel against FNC is ok, and you just sit there

because after all you hate them anyway. Bunch of hypocrites.

I'm not going to query FNC everytime you lie about them.

I was waiting to see if you or anyone else would catch the error in my last statement because then I'd tell if you knew what we're talking about. Obviously from the answer you provided you know nothing about this topic and need to see your way out the conversation. Also before the Fox Network could even begin a lawsuit against me or anyone else for that matter for libel on this subject they would have to begin with the White House.

Woa!

Being in that particular background I think maybe she knows what is subject to an FOIA and what isn't...

See someone knows.

What does your background have to do with your lies about FNC funding and organizing the Tea parties?

You failed again...

Joe is an expert on this subject and everyone else is a moron. Want proof? Just ask him!

So FNC organized and funded the tea-parties? She's an expert so that makes it true?

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I think Flower has her background in communications and the media if I remember correctly. N00b.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Joe simply cannot grasp the fact that we all agree that all media is biased in some form or another. Yes, MSNBC and CNN are left leaning, but Fox is blatantly right leaning. He simply cannot or will not admit that Fox news is anything but fair and balanced. You joe seem to be the one towing the party line on this one.