Additional processing? is there no recourse? K1

[Dennis&Dane 0]

Fellow VJers, I have been mulling this over in my mind...

What kind of a system has our wonderful government created for us?

We are currently stuck in an abyss that is known as AP @ VJ.. and have been there for 1 month and 6 days...

here is what I know for fact:

1. that according to the call center at the NVC that is where our petition is... is it really?...Who knows.

2. That there is no time line for AP @ NVC

3. The Department of state will lie to you!

4. The NVC will lie to you.

5. The call center does not even know what AP even is.

So, based upon what I do know, you can tell there is a lot that I dont.

soooo what I dont know. But would really like to know.:

1. What is really the status of my case?

2. What is AP?

3. How long will AP take?

4. Why was my case sent into AP when so many are out of NVC in a week or less?

5. Why is this agency allowed to LIE to the petitioner by sending a communication saying that the case will be forwarded in 1 week?

These questions really just scrape the surface... And am I the only one here that finds it hard to believe that this agency is allowed to have no checks and balances. No guideline by which they are expected to do their jobs?... I mean seriously even as much as we all hate the USCIS they do have a system that is intended to protect or give the petitioner some recourse in case that there is some hang up. If I have read all the documents correctly there if your case goes beyond the target date you can request an expidite or atleast set up an info pass... Im not saying that the system always works buttttttt

At the NVC... they just tell you that "there is no timeline for this process"

What does that mean? can they keep it there for years? and they dont answer to anyone?

I have never before had an employer that gave me that kind of NON RESPONSIBILITY to my customer...

Imagine if you will: Example take your car to the dealership for a tune-up... you call them to see if it is ready.. they tell you sorry its in AP... and there is no timeline...

MY GOD! it is a JOKE...

I read a post today where someone had their congressman do an inquiry... wanna guess the response? yup you got it.. There is no timeline for this process...and that was to a congressional inquiry...

SOOOO..... If you have suffered thru my Rant... Is there anyone that knows of any recourse for us, the fee paying customers?

Yeah I am highly pi$$ed...

I found the one woman in this world that I want to spend my life with and here I sit twiddling my thumbs...miserable...

you know... I wish when you rented a car.. or a movie and the company called you wanting it back, you could just say sorry it is in AP... Ill get to it when I want to... lol

[summerspring 0]

Fellow VJers, I have been mulling this over in my mind...

What kind of a system has our wonderful government created for us?

We are currently stuck in an abyss that is known as AP @ VJ.. and have been there for 1 month and 6 days...

here is what I know for fact:

1. that according to the call center at the NVC that is where our petition is... is it really?...Who knows.

2. That there is no time line for AP @ NVC

3. The Department of state will lie to you!

4. The NVC will lie to you.

5. The call center does not even know what AP even is.

So, based upon what I do know, you can tell there is a lot that I dont.

soooo what I dont know. But would really like to know.:

1. What is really the status of my case?

2. What is AP?

3. How long will AP take?

4. Why was my case sent into AP when so many are out of NVC in a week or less?

5. Why is this agency allowed to LIE to the petitioner by sending a communication saying that the case will be forwarded in 1 week?

These questions really just scrape the surface... And am I the only one here that finds it hard to believe that this agency is allowed to have no checks and balances. No guideline by which they are expected to do their jobs?... I mean seriously even as much as we all hate the USCIS they do have a system that is intended to protect or give the petitioner some recourse in case that there is some hang up. If I have read all the documents correctly there if your case goes beyond the target date you can request an expidite or atleast set up an info pass... Im not saying that the system always works buttttttt

At the NVC... they just tell you that "there is no timeline for this process"

What does that mean? can they keep it there for years? and they dont answer to anyone?

I have never before had an employer that gave me that kind of NON RESPONSIBILITY to my customer...

Imagine if you will: Example take your car to the dealership for a tune-up... you call them to see if it is ready.. they tell you sorry its in AP... and there is no timeline...

MY GOD! it is a JOKE...

I read a post today where someone had their congressman do an inquiry... wanna guess the response? yup you got it.. There is no timeline for this process...and that was to a congressional inquiry...

SOOOO..... If you have suffered thru my Rant... Is there anyone that knows of any recourse for us, the fee paying customers?

Yeah I am highly pi$$ed...

I found the one woman in this world that I want to spend my life with and here I sit twiddling my thumbs...miserable...

you know... I wish when you rented a car.. or a movie and the company called you wanting it back, you could just say sorry it is in AP... Ill get to it when I want to... lol

hmmmm.. speechless. everybody find it the same way I guess, we hate them but gotta rely on them... we pay to suffer. *sigh.

[Dennis&Dane 0]

yeah.... I dont know what to say either... I kinda wish I had not talked to one honest (I think) CSR at NVC... coz he asked me what kind of petition I had...I told him K1... he said "well it should not be here long because we dont do any kind of processing of k1 visas" that was almost 4 weeks ago...

[Dennis&Dane 0]

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."

Adolf Hitler

I found this quote.... seems like it might have been the directive for the "your packet will be shipped in 1 week"

[Zen Den 18]

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."

Adolf Hitler

I found this quote.... seems like it might have been the directive for the "your packet will be shipped in 1 week"

sorry to hear that you're in AP limbo right now. but at least you know your case in AP. other applicants don't know what "stage" their application is after sending their RFE reply.

maybe they say that AP has "no timeline" because application approval/disapproval becomes a case to case basis, depending on how satisfactory NVC thinks your RFE response is. hopefully they're satisfied.

by the way, very interesting quote!

[jab1976 0]

I AM RIGHT WITH YOU ON THIS ONE, IT TOOK OUR GOVERNMENT 1.5 YEARS TO APPROVED OUR K1 CASE, AND NOW IT HAS BEEN A MONTH SINCE THE CASE WAS APPROVED BY USCIS, AND THE NVC HAS NOT RECEIVED OUR CASE, AND THEY WANT TO RUN OUR HEALTH CARE, WHAT A JOKE......................................

[Dennis&Dane 0]

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."

Adolf Hitler

I found this quote.... seems like it might have been the directive for the "your packet will be shipped in 1 week"

sorry to hear that you're in AP limbo right now. but at least you know your case in AP. other applicants don't know what "stage" their application is after sending their RFE reply.

maybe they say that AP has "no timeline" because application approval/disapproval becomes a case to case basis, depending on how satisfactory NVC thinks your RFE response is. hopefully they're satisfied.

by the way, very interesting quote!

I would guess that you are right... But..I still think there should be time limits each step in the process must conform to.... We are talking about Families here...

[mari joe 1]

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."

Adolf Hitler

I found this quote.... seems like it might have been the directive for the "your packet will be shipped in 1 week"

sorry to hear that you're in AP limbo right now. but at least you know your case in AP. other applicants don't know what "stage" their application is after sending their RFE reply.

maybe they say that AP has "no timeline" because application approval/disapproval becomes a case to case basis, depending on how satisfactory NVC thinks your RFE response is. hopefully they're satisfied.

by the way, very interesting quote!

I would guess that you are right... But..I still think there should be time limits each step in the process must conform to.... We are talking about Families here...

Dennis, Whats that talk from the previous post about RFE? Did you get an RFE from NVC? By the way, your SO and my SO met eachother @USEM on their interview day, pretty cool huh? Take care, hope you get released soon.

[Dennis&Dane 0]

Nope, we have not received any RFE.. the last thing we got was a letter from the NVC saying that they would be forwarding our petition to manila within 1 week..

Are you sure they met coz Dane hasnt been to the USEM yet.. maybe at st. lukes?

[mari joe 1]

Nope, we have not received any RFE.. the last thing we got was a letter from the NVC saying that they would be forwarding our petition to manila within 1 week..

Are you sure they met coz Dane hasnt been to the USEM yet.. maybe at st. lukes?

yea i ment to say St. Lukes

[Matt & Bing 56]

To answer the OP's question, no there is probably no recourse. The longest documented stay in AP here on VJ is 52 days. Jsut keep callng the NVC and keep the faith.

[KnightAndMagpie 7]

Heya Dennis&Dane, you're certainly not alone in your frustration.

I'm going to link you to a forum I was a part of for my time in AP, also known as administrative processing. It's an arduous, painful process, and whether it's a month or over a year (as some VJers have sadly experienced), it doesn't make it any easier. Rest assured that for you two, it shouldn't be long. I would suggest contacting DOS (Department of State) via telephone and making inquiries there, because they were a lot more helpful about it. Usually they say that you can start making calls after six weeks, but give them a ring anyway and see what they say.

I sincerely hope that you two get out of it soon. It's usually quicker for women than it is for men, judging from people's previous experiences. Do ask for advice on the AP forum, and you'll certainly find a great deal of support there. Just keep your heads up high and take each day as it comes, rather than wondering when it's going to end. I know it's horrendously difficult, but just think about how this experience will bring you closer together through your mutual strength to overcome this. I would wonder why I was being punished for being in AP, but it turned out okay in the end.

Magpie.

[sara..... 371]

AP or further processing or in our case extended security checks at the service center is no fun it is hard its aggravating......there is no way that i know of that u can get help to get out of AP in any stage of the process ur in, if its the service center, nvc, or after interview we are at the hands of what ever government agency is involved in the AP......

i know its hard but just try to take a breath and keep on going calling doing what ever it takes to keep them looking at ur file (i really dont know if that helps) or what ever it is that keeps u sane.

to date we have been in ap two times i have no doubt we will be again after the interview seems when a case gets flack it just keeps getting it but on the up side ur almost done

just hang in there it will all work out when they decide its done

your in my prayers

sara

[Dennis&Dane 0]

Thanks to everyone for their words of encouragement... but the fact remains I still think that the NVC should be accountable to someone... or at the very least a set of rules that are published... lets see hows that go... one govmt of the people, for the people... so.. given that statement this govment agency should be at the very least be accountable to the people... and to the customer...

ok I am just PO'd for us and everyone else stuck too...

having my rant lol...

but seriously, would it be so hard for them to say "we are doing background checks".... or "if after 6 weeks we will investigate the situation"... but all we get is..."there is no timeline for this process"... do you think if I told my boss that it would fly?

[mari joe 1]

I think magpie in the post 3 above this one gave us a hint as to what they are doing with our petitions when she said " It's usually quicker for women than it is for men, judging from people's previous experiences".And i tend to agree that the wemon spend a little less time in AP. With that i can assume that because the women petitioners have male benificiarys, that NVC is doing background checks on the beneficiarys, because males dont have maiden names and would not take as long to do a background check as it would if the benificiary was a woman. I don't know if i even make any sense anymore,