Arkansas High School Football Player Ends Game with Noble Gesture

[rebeccajo 14]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

I'm confused.........

[one...two...tree 2,762]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

In the context of team sports, a selfless act by a player for the sake of the team is a noble thing. Ask any coach out there.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Sportsmanship appears to be a dying philosophy.

Then something like this comes along, to show adults how it should be done and what real class means.

Sorry. Disagree. He EARNED a touchdown. There is nothing "sportsmanlike" about shaving points off the board and if you later found out he was working for a bookie, you would scream bloody murder. There is nothing unsportsmanlike in claiming the prize you earn, fair and square, through your efforts. It is an insult to the other team he did this. It is the ultimate insult, the ultimate "playing field demonstration" to actually lay down and not take what he earned...because he doesn't need it to defeat such an unworthy opponent. Did he spit on them as he jogged back leaving the ball on the playing field. May as well have.

This is a creeping thing in our society that somehow we do not DESERVE what we ear and should give it to someone else. It is also a gesture that the opponent was incapable and he was "going easy on them" I preferto play fair and square and if you clean my clock fair and square I will shake your hand after the game. Were I on the opposing team I would demand an apology for this condescending behavior.

REAL class is a perosn that does his best, claims his prize for his efforts and treats his opponent with respect and honor. This is NOT honorable, this is horrifically insulting

No matter what happens with this man life he will always remember this moment in time and hold his head high. He will be fine I think whatever comes his way.

BS!!!!! My son would be writing a letter of apology or better, asking to address the other team AND their school with his apology for his total disrspect of them. He also would lose the keys to the car for two weeks minimum.

I take it, Gary, that you never played team sports....no surprise there.

Played, coached. Two of four sons have paid for college education (full ride) with scholarships for team sports. Another gets most of his college paid doe tohis academic acheivements and is in his thrid year of college at age 18. He will have a masters degree at age 20. The fourth is in 11th grade at age 14 and will graduate high school just after he turns 16. Neither of them would talk down to a lesser academic student and neither would skip a test or homework because "they don't need it". We had to take the youngest out of school early this spring for family business and the school said "no problem, he doesn't need the rest of the year" I said, "No, it is a problem, he will return in July after studying the lessons his teachers give to him and take his final exams like everyone else". He will ACHIEVE what he can achieve and not take a free ride from anyone or insult anyone by acting as though he is special.

I would have jerked a knot in either one of my sons if they had EVER pulled an insulting stunt like this. They won and lost fair and square and I am proud of them for being sportsman and gentlemen.

You should not ever make assumptions about me, I know of what I speak or I won't say it.

Edited September 25, 2009 by Gary and Alla

[rebeccajo 14]

Sportsmanship appears to be a dying philosophy.

Then something like this comes along, to show adults how it should be done and what real class means.

Sorry. Disagree. He EARNED a touchdown. There is nothing "sportsmanlike" about shaving points off the board and if you later found out he was working for a bookie, you would scream bloody murder. There is nothing unsportsmanlike in claiming the prize you earn, fair and square, through your efforts. It is an insult to the other team he did this. It is the ultimate insult, the ultimate "playing field demonstration" to actually lay down and not take what he earned...because he doesn't need it to defeat such an unworthy opponent. Did he spit on them as he jogged back leaving the ball on the playing field. May as well have.

This is a creeping thing in our society that somehow we do not DESERVE what we ear and should give it to someone else. It is also a gesture that the opponent was incapable and he was "going easy on them" I preferto play fair and square and if you clean my clock fair and square I will shake your hand after the game. Were I on the opposing team I would demand an apology for this condescending behavior.

REAL class is a perosn that does his best, claims his prize for his efforts and treats his opponent with respect and honor. This is NOT honorable, this is horrifically insulting

No matter what happens with this man life he will always remember this moment in time and hold his head high. He will be fine I think whatever comes his way.

BS!!!!! My son would be writing a letter of apology or better, asking to address the other team AND their school with his apology for his total disrspect of them. He also would lose the keys to the car for two weeks minimum.

I take it, Gary, that you never played team sports....no surprise there.

Played, coached. Two of four sons have paid for college education (full ride) with scholarships for team sports. Another gets most of his college paid doe tohis academic acheivements and is in his thrid year of college at age 18. He will have a masters degree at age 20. The fourth is in 11th grade at age 14 and will graduate high school just after he turns 16. Neither of them would talk down to a leeser academic student and neither would skip a test or homework because "they don't need it". We had to takwe the youngest out of school early this spring for family business and the school said "no problem, he doesn't need the rest of the year" I said, "No, it is a problem, he will return n July after studying the lessons his teachers gve to himm and take his final exams like everyone else". He will ACHIEVE what he can achieve and not take a free ride from anyone or insult anyone by acting as thoug he is special.

I would have jerked a knot in either one of my sons if they had EVER pulled an insulting stunt like this. They won and lost fair and square and I am proud of them for being sportsman and gentlemen.

You should not ever make assumptions about me, I know of what I speak or I won't say it.

............and then some..............

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Sportsmanship appears to be a dying philosophy.

Then something like this comes along, to show adults how it should be done and what real class means.

Sorry. Disagree. He EARNED a touchdown. There is nothing "sportsmanlike" about shaving points off the board and if you later found out he was working for a bookie, you would scream bloody murder. There is nothing unsportsmanlike in claiming the prize you earn, fair and square, through your efforts. It is an insult to the other team he did this. It is the ultimate insult, the ultimate "playing field demonstration" to actually lay down and not take what he earned...because he doesn't need it to defeat such an unworthy opponent. Did he spit on them as he jogged back leaving the ball on the playing field. May as well have.

This is a creeping thing in our society that somehow we do not DESERVE what we ear and should give it to someone else. It is also a gesture that the opponent was incapable and he was "going easy on them" I preferto play fair and square and if you clean my clock fair and square I will shake your hand after the game. Were I on the opposing team I would demand an apology for this condescending behavior.

REAL class is a perosn that does his best, claims his prize for his efforts and treats his opponent with respect and honor. This is NOT honorable, this is horrifically insulting

No matter what happens with this man life he will always remember this moment in time and hold his head high. He will be fine I think whatever comes his way.

BS!!!!! My son would be writing a letter of apology or better, asking to address the other team AND their school with his apology for his total disrspect of them. He also would lose the keys to the car for two weeks minimum.

I take it, Gary, that you never played team sports....no surprise there.

Played, coached. Two of four sons have paid for college education (full ride) with scholarships for team sports. Another gets most of his college paid doe tohis academic acheivements and is in his thrid year of college at age 18. He will have a masters degree at age 20. The fourth is in 11th grade at age 14 and will graduate high school just after he turns 16. Neither of them would talk down to a lesser academic student and neither would skip a test or homework because "they don't need it". We had to take the youngest out of school early this spring for family business and the school said "no problem, he doesn't need the rest of the year" I said, "No, it is a problem, he will return in July after studying the lessons his teachers give to him and take his final exams like everyone else". He will ACHIEVE what he can achieve and not take a free ride from anyone or insult anyone by acting as though he is special.

I would have jerked a knot in either one of my sons if they had EVER pulled an insulting stunt like this. They won and lost fair and square and I am proud of them for being sportsman and gentlemen.

You should not ever make assumptions about me, I know of what I speak or I won't say it.

You're the kind of coach I would have never wanted to play for...and I'd take my kids off your team if you expressed that attitude. And 'yes', I've coached too.

[rebeccajo 14]

You're the kind of coach I would have never wanted to play for...and I'd take my kids off your team if you expressed that attitude. And 'yes', I've coached too.

It's the Windbag Quotient, Steven.

Been going on in the Upper Forums for months. Now he's decided to come down to OT and blather.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

In the context of team sports, a selfless act by a player for the sake of the team is a noble thing. Ask any coach out there.

Horsesqueeze.

and it has nothing to do with "harm". We assume the other team did their best and it wasn't good enough, it happens. He EARNED the touchdown by fairly beating his opponent. Leaving the results on the field is an insult. Pure and simple. Go back to the simple rules of a duel. when the opponent shoots and misses first, the other man would often fire his shot into the ground, this was regarded the ultimate INSULT, that the opponent was not even worth the effort. Why should he run the last two yards? For what? thje other team is obviously so BAD they do not require a full effort. They do not even reqwuire he tries to do well. THIS is what this gesture says. Only the liberal media that thinks achievement is somehow a bad thing and we should be ashamed of it, will have this opinion and other people jump all over it like lemmings over a cliff.

This boy dishonored his opponent and himself and his team. Were I the coach (and YES I have coached team sports) this kid would be OUT for the season.

Edited September 25, 2009 by Gary and Alla

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You're the kind of coach I would have never wanted to play for...and I'd take my kids off your team if you expressed that attitude. And 'yes', I've coached too.

It's the Windbag Quotient, Steven.

Been going on in the Upper Forums for months. Now he's decided to come down to OT and blather.

Perhaps Zoloft or Celexa would help him?

[rebeccajo 14]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

In the context of team sports, a selfless act by a player for the sake of the team is a noble thing. Ask any coach out there.

Horsesqueeze.

and it has nothing to do with "harm". We assume the other team did their best and it wasn't good enough, it happens. He EARNEd the touchdown by fairly beating his opponent. Leaving the results on the field is an insult. Pure and simple. Go back to the simple rules of a duel. when the opponent shoots and misses first, the other man would oftemn fire his shot into the gound, this was regarded the ultimate INSULT, that the opponent was not even worth the effort. Why should he run the last two yards? For what? thje other team is obviously so BAD they do not require a full effort. They do not even reqwuire he tries to do well. THIS is what this gesture says. Only the liberal n=media that thinks achievement is somehow a bad thing and we should be ashamed of it, will have this opinion and other people jump all over it like lemmings over a cliff.

This boy dishonored his opponent and himself and his team. Were I the coach (and YES I have coached team sports) this kid would be OUT for the season.

I'm sure he gives a healthy $hit what you think.

[_Simpson_ 250]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

In the context of team sports, a selfless act by a player for the sake of the team is a noble thing. Ask any coach out there.

A nice gesture yes but a noble one?, come on. I think most coaches would agree with me.

Edited September 25, 2009 by _Simpson_

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Sportsmanship appears to be a dying philosophy.

Then something like this comes along, to show adults how it should be done and what real class means.

Sorry. Disagree. He EARNED a touchdown. There is nothing "sportsmanlike" about shaving points off the board and if you later found out he was working for a bookie, you would scream bloody murder. There is nothing unsportsmanlike in claiming the prize you earn, fair and square, through your efforts. It is an insult to the other team he did this. It is the ultimate insult, the ultimate "playing field demonstration" to actually lay down and not take what he earned...because he doesn't need it to defeat such an unworthy opponent. Did he spit on them as he jogged back leaving the ball on the playing field. May as well have.

This is a creeping thing in our society that somehow we do not DESERVE what we ear and should give it to someone else. It is also a gesture that the opponent was incapable and he was "going easy on them" I preferto play fair and square and if you clean my clock fair and square I will shake your hand after the game. Were I on the opposing team I would demand an apology for this condescending behavior.

REAL class is a perosn that does his best, claims his prize for his efforts and treats his opponent with respect and honor. This is NOT honorable, this is horrifically insulting

No matter what happens with this man life he will always remember this moment in time and hold his head high. He will be fine I think whatever comes his way.

BS!!!!! My son would be writing a letter of apology or better, asking to address the other team AND their school with his apology for his total disrspect of them. He also would lose the keys to the car for two weeks minimum.

I take it, Gary, that you never played team sports....no surprise there.

Played, coached. Two of four sons have paid for college education (full ride) with scholarships for team sports. Another gets most of his college paid doe tohis academic acheivements and is in his thrid year of college at age 18. He will have a masters degree at age 20. The fourth is in 11th grade at age 14 and will graduate high school just after he turns 16. Neither of them would talk down to a lesser academic student and neither would skip a test or homework because "they don't need it". We had to take the youngest out of school early this spring for family business and the school said "no problem, he doesn't need the rest of the year" I said, "No, it is a problem, he will return in July after studying the lessons his teachers give to him and take his final exams like everyone else". He will ACHIEVE what he can achieve and not take a free ride from anyone or insult anyone by acting as though he is special.

I would have jerked a knot in either one of my sons if they had EVER pulled an insulting stunt like this. They won and lost fair and square and I am proud of them for being sportsman and gentlemen.

You should not ever make assumptions about me, I know of what I speak or I won't say it.

You're the kind of coach I would have never wanted to play for...and I'd take my kids off your team if you expressed that attitude. And 'yes', I've coached too.

I am sure you would not want to play for someone that demanded your best effort, and as insulting as some of your posts are, there is little doubt you would also do something like this and then try to pass it off as a "good gesture". it is clear from your points of view about life in general. No need to do your best, skim it off from someone else that DOES do their best, make them evil, demonize them, tax them and hand it out to ne'er do wells. I could have guessed your opinion right away and wrote your post for you.

Had your kids been on my team and given less than the full effort, I would have cut them, you wouldn't need to take them off the team.

[_Simpson_ 250]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

I'm confused.........

Just that I agree he meant well but just wanted to point out I dont see it as noble.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

They were already winning.

What he did was no harm.

I agree but with the same respect this was not a noble gesture.

In the context of team sports, a selfless act by a player for the sake of the team is a noble thing. Ask any coach out there.

Horsesqueeze.

and it has nothing to do with "harm". We assume the other team did their best and it wasn't good enough, it happens. He EARNEd the touchdown by fairly beating his opponent. Leaving the results on the field is an insult. Pure and simple. Go back to the simple rules of a duel. when the opponent shoots and misses first, the other man would oftemn fire his shot into the gound, this was regarded the ultimate INSULT, that the opponent was not even worth the effort. Why should he run the last two yards? For what? thje other team is obviously so BAD they do not require a full effort. They do not even reqwuire he tries to do well. THIS is what this gesture says. Only the liberal n=media that thinks achievement is somehow a bad thing and we should be ashamed of it, will have this opinion and other people jump all over it like lemmings over a cliff.

This boy dishonored his opponent and himself and his team. Were I the coach (and YES I have coached team sports) this kid would be OUT for the season.

I'm sure he gives a healthy $hit what you think.

Damn, people have to quit copying your posts in reply Rebecca. No I do not care what he thinks (or you for that matter). I express my own opinion based on my own beliefs and experiences, I do not ask The Col. what he thinks before I make up my mind. I support my opinion with logic and reasoning, not insulting one liners. It is easy to see who the posters are that think this was NOT insulting and why. Life is just a happy camp and everyone should be happy. No one should suffer humiliation or a big loss...ever. Even though it honors them to do so and teaches them a lesson. They need to expect the better person to lay down for them. They will need affirmative action to get a job if they do that. People need to do their best, be encouraged to do their best and take pride in what they achieve for themselves, their team and their family. I do, and make NO APOLOGIES for it and never will.

This BOZO is ANYTHING but selfless. If he were selfless, he would have made the touchdown and gone back to his team and shook the opponents hand like 10,000 anonymous high school football kids all over this country every Friday night. NO. He pulls a stunt that gets him his "15 minutes of fame" for what? A NON achievement. This is Kanye West at the awards show. Tajke something wehich is really nothing and trun it into 15 minutes of fame for yourself. And you call that "selfless". Yes, Kanye is selfless because he did it for Beyonce, NOT for himself. He is a social welfare legend in the making. He has a bright future with ACORN.

And yes, I answer questions and help people in the "upper forums" first before coming here. But I do not see you painting me as a hero for that gesture. No need to, it is something I can do, so I do. I am all in favor of educating and informing people so they can do it themselves.

[웃 910]

Sportsmanship appears to be a dying philosophy.

Then something like this comes along, to show adults how it should be done and what real class means.

Sorry. Disagree. He EARNED a touchdown. There is nothing "sportsmanlike" about shaving points off the board and if you later found out he was working for a bookie, you would scream bloody murder. There is nothing unsportsmanlike in claiming the prize you earn, fair and square, through your efforts. It is an insult to the other team he did this. It is the ultimate insult, the ultimate "playing field demonstration" to actually lay down and not take what he earned...because he doesn't need it to defeat such an unworthy opponent. Did he spit on them as he jogged back leaving the ball on the playing field. May as well have.

This is a creeping thing in our society that somehow we do not DESERVE what we ear and should give it to someone else. It is also a gesture that the opponent was incapable and he was "going easy on them" I preferto play fair and square and if you clean my clock fair and square I will shake your hand after the game. Were I on the opposing team I would demand an apology for this condescending behavior.

REAL class is a perosn that does his best, claims his prize for his efforts and treats his opponent with respect and honor. This is NOT honorable, this is horrifically insulting

No matter what happens with this man life he will always remember this moment in time and hold his head high. He will be fine I think whatever comes his way.

BS!!!!! My son would be writing a letter of apology or better, asking to address the other team AND their school with his apology for his total disrspect of them. He also would lose the keys to the car for two weeks minimum.

I take it, Gary, that you never played team sports....no surprise there.

Played, coached. Two of four sons have paid for college education (full ride) with scholarships for team sports. Another gets most of his college paid doe tohis academic acheivements and is in his thrid year of college at age 18. He will have a masters degree at age 20. The fourth is in 11th grade at age 14 and will graduate high school just after he turns 16. Neither of them would talk down to a lesser academic student and neither would skip a test or homework because "they don't need it". We had to take the youngest out of school early this spring for family business and the school said "no problem, he doesn't need the rest of the year" I said, "No, it is a problem, he will return in July after studying the lessons his teachers give to him and take his final exams like everyone else". He will ACHIEVE what he can achieve and not take a free ride from anyone or insult anyone by acting as though he is special.

I would have jerked a knot in either one of my sons if they had EVER pulled an insulting stunt like this. They won and lost fair and square and I am proud of them for being sportsman and gentlemen.

You should not ever make assumptions about me, I know of what I speak or I won't say it.

You're the kind of coach I would have never wanted to play for...and I'd take my kids off your team if you expressed that attitude. And 'yes', I've coached too.

I am sure you would not want to play for someone that demanded your best effort, and as insulting as some of your posts are, there is little doubt you would also do something like this and then try to pass it off as a "good gesture". it is clear from your points of view about life in general. No need to do your best, skim it off from someone else that DOES do their best, make them evil, demonize them, tax them and hand it out to ne'er do wells. I could have guessed your opinion right away and wrote your post for you.

Had your kids been on my team and given less than the full effort, I would have cut them, you wouldn't need to take them off the team.

What is your son getting his master's in and how the hell did he get it at 20? That is REMARKABLE!

The winning team already beat the living sh_t out of the losing team. How is running from end zone to end zone on the last play and then kneeling down on the one yard line being noble? I think they were 2 quarters too late!!! If the team wanted to be noble they could have kept it a close game, took it to OT, and then slaughtered their opponents like wolves in sheep clothing!

Edited September 25, 2009 by Confucian

[Pooky 3,930]

Sportsmanship appears to be a dying philosophy.

Then something like this comes along, to show adults how it should be done and what real class means.

Appears I was more right than I knew.