Another Fake "Hate Crime"

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Arrest in L.I. church Hispanic hate crime case: Suspect is Hispanic

BY Wil Cruz

DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Sunday, September 6th 2009, 4:00 AM

Suffolk County police have busted the man who left an anti-Hispanic note at the altar of a church.

And the suspect is Hispanic.

Christian Mungia Garcia, 25, was arrested Friday night after hurling a wooden log and a glass bottle at a congregant of the Iglesia Evangelica Refugio de Salvacion in Patchogue. Cops later accused Garcia of leaving the hate-filled note Wednesday at the church.

Garcia was charged with attempted assault as a hate crime, police said. He was arraigned yesterday and due back in court Thursday.

The arrest comes on the heels of a Southern Poverty Law Center report that found Latino immigrants in Suffolk County live in a "climate of fear." Last fall, a gang of teens jumped Ecuadorian immigrant Marcelo Lucero and stabbed him to death.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2...l#ixzz0QJxkaV8w

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Typical.

[Danno 1,228]

Typical.

It is typical.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I guess its a good thing that there aren't any ethno-cultural tensions between the populations of Central American countries

Its all Hispanics together, right - one for all and all for one?

[Jenn! 918]

It does seem like this was labeled a hate crime prematurely. This article has more info: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk...-bail-1.1424156

Appears to be a personal dispute.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm sure that's the case, but to me the OP seems to imply that hispanics can't be prejudiced against other hispanics - ergo it can't be a hate crime.

Typical boneheadedness.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Is white on white crime hate-crime? The term hate-crime is BS. Crime is crime.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If you think that white people can't be prejudiced against other white people, then clearly you didn't think about it very hard...

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Crime is crime period. Using the term hate-crime is used to inflame a target audience.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Crime is crime period. Using the term hate-crime is used to inflame a target audience.

I've heard that argument, but it doesn't alter the fact that people can be (and are) prejudiced against others within the same ethnic group.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I never said they weren't - But white on white is never called hate crime for that reason alone. Sure they'll call straight on gay crime hate crime as well. Either way its crime. I don't give a rat's behind what the person's character and prejudices are; a crime was comitted and they need the book thrown at them.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I never said they weren't - But white on white is never called hate crime for that reason alone. Sure they'll call straight on gay crime hate crime as well. Either way its crime. I don't give a rat's behind what the person's character and prejudices are; a crime was comitted and they need the book thrown at them.

Is white on white crime hate-crime?

This clearly implies the reverse, hence my comment. Some of the worst atrocities in the history books were committed by whites against other whites because of unreasoning prejudice against some proscribed group within society.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Ok, it was a question as to whether it is CONSIDERED hate-crime. I don't recognize anything as hate-crime, unless all person on person crime is called hate-crime. When that happens, then I'll consider it.

[Jenn! 918]

It has to do with the intent, which is certainly considered even outside of the context of hate-crimes. That's why we have first degree vs. second-degree murder charges.

You don't think that assaulting a person because they had an affair with my wife should be treated differently than assaulting a person because of their race? In the first case, the severity of the punishment would be reduced due to the mitigating factor that the victim had wronged the pertpetrator. In the second case, there was no provocation.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It has to do with the intent, which is certainly considered even outside of the context of hate-crimes. That's why we have first degree vs. second-degree murder charges.

You don't think that assaulting a person because they had an affair with my wife should be treated differently than assaulting a person because of their race? In the first case, the severity of the punishment would be reduced due to the mitigating factor that the victim had wronged the pertpetrator. In the second case, there was no provocation.

That's as I understand it. Judges routinely include a whole range of considerations into the mix when considering appropriate sentencing - hence the woman who kills her husband as a crime of passion might get a lesser sentence than the guy who kills someone in cold blood.