Health Reform Supporter Shows Up At Protest With Revolver

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You actually have to shoot the gun in order to intimidate someone with it?

I can see a few problems with that...

PP I think you have some insecurity issues.

I don't think you've thought it through...

Read it again.

[natty bumppo 297]

You actually have to shoot the gun in order to intimidate someone with it?

I can see a few problems with that...

PP I think you have some insecurity issues.

brandishing: "that the weapon was pointed or waved about, or displayed in a threatening manner."

a holstered handgun or slung rifle is not considered brandishing. especially if open carry is legal.

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

Wearing a gun on your hip in public, in 2009, when not a police officer makes you look like a 'tard regardless of your opinion on health care...

heaven forbid someone exercise all of their constitutional rights around you.

Heaven forbid you might actually agree there are places where carrying a gun might not be appropriate or responsible behaviour regardless of what the law/constitution allows. - like that's ever going to happen

Do people regularly take their guns to church for example?

why don't you go there and look

whether carrying a firearm is appropriate or not should never be an issue, but i know plenty of the gun grabbers will do their best to make it so.

Should not be an issue? I think there are plenty of people who would be a lot more comfortable with the idea of having armed citizens if they showed some understanding of when and where gun toting is appropriate. The very idea that wearing guns in church might be reasonable and responsible just shows the complete contempt that gun owners show towards their unarmed fellow citizens.

you're right in that regard - most citizens have no clue that it could be legal.

btw, appropriate is determined by law........not you.

In your opinion is there is no place that the gun owner should hesitate to pack his pistol? Not hospitals, not churches and not schools? Everywhere is good to go if you have the relevant paperwork?

Regardless of whether some things are 'allowed' in times gone by most people chose not to exercise their 'rights' out of courtesy and respect for others. Are you saying that courtesy and respect are irrelevant concepts in this day and age?

before you run off at the mouth and jump all over the place to conclusions, read what i said. what is appropriate is determined by law. maybe you should spend some of your time researching what those places are

I can see Charles' grandfather shaking his fist and declaring that men just aren't what they used to be. He would have a point.

no, you would not see him doing that, as he's been dead for almost 20 years. next lame attempt to involve my family in this discussion??

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

Carrying a firearm is now a benign action? You can't be serious - this is as ludicrous as the 'it's only a tool' argument that you are such fans of

oh yeah, everyone carrying a firearm is a mass murder, even giving hitler and stalin pause!

You actually have to shoot the gun in order to intimidate someone with it?

I can see a few problems with that...

PP I think you have some insecurity issues.

brandishing: "that the weapon was pointed or waved about, or displayed in a threatening manner."

a holstered handgun or slung rifle is not considered brandishing. especially if open carry is legal.

it's amazing how little the leftists know about gun laws.

[Niels Bohr 72]

I don't trust a civilian with an open gun walking inside Chucky Cheeze, Disney World, McDonalds, or any place. Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."

A gun out in the open is honest to god intimidating because how can you trust strangers, other than yourself with the gun.

[Peikko 1,575]

So, as far as you are concerned Charles, what is legally allowed is more important than any notion of what is customary or common sense? The more you present yourself as totally unable to define any circumstances when the rights of gun owners don't trump everything else, the smaller the man you appear to be. Careful now, you might disappear entirely if you are not careful

[Niels Bohr 72]

It's almost as if naming your son Adolf Hitler would not be wrong.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Seems to me that what is legal isn't always just nor socially acceptable.

I believe a similar argument was made in another thread - though that is stretching the topic somewhat beyond the initial premise.

I seem to recall seeing a few restaurants in Texas with no guns allowed signs on the doors. I bet someone could make a stink about that if they wanted - but I guess that most people probably wouldn't). You don't have to have anything against gun ownership to realise that hysterically demanding the right to practice every right granted you in law (just because) isn't always going to conform to social etiquette, nor is it always prudent.

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

So, as far as you are concerned Charles, what is legally allowed is more important than any notion of what is customary or common sense? The more you present yourself as totally unable to define any circumstances when the rights of gun owners don't trump everything else, the smaller the man you appear to be. Careful now, you might disappear entirely if you are not careful

so what the law allows means nothing to you? very interesting. once again, you bray about things you know nothing about. how amusing.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't trust a civilian with an open gun walking inside Chucky Cheeze, Disney World, McDonalds, or any place. Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."

A gun out in the open is honest to god intimidating because how can you trust strangers, other than yourself with the gun.

One problem I have with it is that it sets a precedent where it becomes a commonplace sight. At least in the UK, if you saw a guy with a gun on the street - it was a fair bet that such a person was up to no good.

[Peikko 1,575]

So, as far as you are concerned Charles, what is legally allowed is more important than any notion of what is customary or common sense? The more you present yourself as totally unable to define any circumstances when the rights of gun owners don't trump everything else, the smaller the man you appear to be. Careful now, you might disappear entirely if you are not careful

so what the law allows means nothing to you? very interesting. once again, you bray about things you know nothing about. how amusing.

Only you could come out with such an absurd conclusion based on the things I have actually posted.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's almost as if naming your son Adolf Hitler would not be wrong.

Indeed

But... its the fvcking first amendment!

Seriously - we routinely accept that there are common sense limitations on the practice of free speech that aren't strictly mandated by law, I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that this rationale might also apply to the second.

Certainly seems that some people place more importance on the 2nd amendment rights than the first, and perhaps aren't above using their own 2nd amendment rights to suppress the first amendment rights of others...

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't trust a civilian with an open gun walking inside Chucky Cheeze, Disney World, McDonalds, or any place. Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."

A gun out in the open is honest to god intimidating because how can you trust strangers, other than yourself with the gun.

One problem I have with it is that it sets a precedent where it becomes a commonplace sight. At least in the UK, if you saw a guy with a gun on the street - it was a fair bet that such a person was up to no good.

There are a lot of problems with allowing gun carrying to creep into every aspect of society as if somehow it's a good and necessary thing spurred on by this ridiculous notion that only by owning and carrying a gun are you 'safe' on the streets of USA towns and cities.

[natty bumppo 297]

I don't trust a civilian with an open gun walking inside Chucky Cheeze, Disney World, McDonalds, or any place. Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."

A gun out in the open is honest to god intimidating because how can you trust strangers, other than yourself with the gun.

guess you need to get out more. i've seen open carry and even noticed some concealed firearms while living in/ visiting more than one state. these were seen in grocery/hardware/convenience, other retail, office buildings, etc. it wasn't a big deal and the other people around didn't make a big deal of it either.

now you're comment about .... "Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."" ... you speak for everyone now?

[Peikko 1,575]

Actually, it's now worse than that, for those who do deem it inappropriate to carry one into every social setting and situation are seen as 'complicit' in criminal activity, somehow demanding they become victims of crime. There is a lot of talk about 'slippery slopes' but this is a real one.

I don't trust a civilian with an open gun walking inside Chucky Cheeze, Disney World, McDonalds, or any place. Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."

A gun out in the open is honest to god intimidating because how can you trust strangers, other than yourself with the gun.

guess you need to get out more. i've seen open carry and even noticed some concealed firearms while living in/ visiting more than one state. these were seen in grocery/hardware/convenience, other retail, office buildings, etc. it wasn't a big deal and the other people around didn't make a big deal of it either.

now you're comment about .... "Everyone will take a step back when they see it, and say "whoa buddy."" ... you speak for everyone now?

You live in the boonies ?