Po-po tasers 72 year old great grandmother during traffic stop (YouTube)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

as is goading cops on the side of the road ( a bad idea).

But doesn't this justify the cops having short tempers?

I do think they are too ready to resort to violence as a way of dealing with difficult people. But no matter how grouchy or crotchety an old woman might be - its a stretch to believe that a tasering the person is a reasonable response.

Most officers are not just cranky or crotchety. A bit jaded, yes, but not merely cranky. Having seen the underbelly of society, and the limits of humanity teaches you a few lessons in life. The job they perform puts their lives on the line, and they do not take this fact lightly. Officers do so at their own peril. Whether you estimate a grandmother as harmless or not is beside the point. She could potentially be dangerous. She could have a weapon. Furthermore, she was given a simple set of commands. She was being obstinant and obstructive on purpose.

In that situation, anything the officer did short of tell her to go home, some people would have had a problem with. The fact remains, she committed some sort of traffic violation and subsequently , by her actions and inactions resisted arrest, and even her touching the officer commited battery on an officer.

As I said - I think they resort to violence too quickly and that the changing political climate has essentially justified this at the expense of exercising responsibility.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Another thread hijack

My beta fish poop is bigger than his hole

okay....back to topic

[tmma 467]

As I said - I think they resort to violence too quickly and that the changing political climate has essentially justified this at the expense of exercising responsibility.

I get what you are saying-and in some circumstances you could very well be right; but what about the grandma's share of responsibility for the outcome here? I mean, he warned her a couple of times, you could tell he wasn't trigger happy and she still kept on and on.

There would not have been a story here if the driver had been a 30-something. She was resisting a police officer, non-compliant and combative.We can't have one rule for old people and one for the rest of us.

[Peikko 1,575]

Officers should be able to issue a traffic ticket to anyone without resorting to violence no matter how crotchety the recipient. In fact, a lot of people who receive traffic citations are bullheaded, most of the time because they feel they are entitled to speed and yet these incidents of violence are rare and should be condemned for the inappropriate behaviour of those in authority when they do surface.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Officers should be able to issue a traffic ticket to anyone without resorting to violence no matter how crotchety the recipient. In fact, a lot of people who receive traffic citations are bullheaded, most of the time because they feel they are entitled to speed and yet these incidents of violence are rare and should be condemned for the inappropriate behaviour of those in authority when they do surface.

And people who commit traffic violations should be able to accept their citation without resorting to obstructive behavior. I agree that citations should be able to be issued without the consent or signature of the violator. But they haven't reached that point yet. The woman was guilty of the infraction and more. The officer could have simply cuffed the woman, put her back in her car and taken the cuffs off, but even that would have been too much force for some people. The officer was well within the scope of his job to tase her.

[Peikko 1,575]

Then the job scope is wrong. Traffic violations are not criminal.

[Kevin and 10]

Then the job scope is wrong. Traffic violations are not criminal.

Traffic violations are now used as revenue generators.

Edited June 10, 2009 by Kevin and Tuyen

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Traffic violations are now used as revenue generators.

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[The_Dude 1,142]

Then the job scope is wrong. Traffic violations are not criminal.

It is within the scope of their job when the suspect becomes uncooperative or combative. That is certainly justifiable.

Traffic citations have ALWAYS been revenue generators.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It is within the scope of their job when the suspect becomes uncooperative or combative.

Tasers have killed lots of people. How many more must die before the bacon gives it a rest?

[The_Dude 1,142]

It is within the scope of their job when the suspect becomes uncooperative or combative.

Tasers have killed lots of people. How many more must die before the bacon gives it a rest?

So you want officers to just slap violators on the back of their hands and scold them?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It is within the scope of their job when the suspect becomes uncooperative or combative.

Tasers have killed lots of people. How many more must die before the bacon gives it a rest?

So you want officers to just slap violators on the back of their hands and scold them?

People can be restrained. There are techniques to do that, which result in a many fewer deaths than tasers do

[The_Dude 1,142]

It is within the scope of their job when the suspect becomes uncooperative or combative.

Tasers have killed lots of people. How many more must die before the bacon gives it a rest?

So you want officers to just slap violators on the back of their hands and scold them?

People can be restrained. There are techniques to do that, which result in a many fewer deaths than tasers do

OK hippy, back to work for you.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

If demanding that cops not be lazy even if it means their over-reliance on gadgets kills people who don't need to be killed, makes me a hippy ... then guilty as charged.

[My Name Is Nobody 3]

Officers should be able to issue a traffic ticket to anyone without resorting to violence no matter how crotchety the recipient.

Bingo, winning post, cash and prizes for you MC

This guy was an inexperienced officer who lacked the training needed to deal with an old grouchy citizen.

An experienced, veteran cop would have diffused this situation in a matter of minutes. They have learned to operate without listening to angry people ######.

This goon needs to be sent back to boot camp for a couple of months. He cannot control his emotions( must be part lib) They forget they are hired to seve the people not harrass them. I would hate to see the outcome if he was put in a real confortation???