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[*Robert* 2]

Nobody is forced to Immigarte to the USA so what in the world is the point?

If someone doesn't like the US and the "American way of life" then why can't they stay at home???

Nat

hmm..you know, i read that Squanto said that to those whiney azz piligrims...

i think i read the same thing....

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Queue the banjo music..ding da la ling da la ling ling...red necks in da house y'all.

Nobody is forced to Immigarte to the USA so what in the world is the point?

If someone doesn't like the US and the "American way of life" then why can't they stay at home???

Nat

[PsychoKat 0]

Nobody is forced to Immigarte to the USA so what in the world is the point?

If someone doesn't like the US and the "American way of life" then why can't they stay at home???

Nat

Because love unlike countries, has no boundries. There are those who would die to protect those they love from harm. Is it so difficult to comprehend that people would move somewhere they don't necessarily like to be with someone they love?

[*Robert* 2]

Nobody is forced to Immigarte to the USA so what in the world is the point?

If someone doesn't like the US and the "American way of life" then why can't they stay at home???

Nat

Because love unlike countries, has no boundries. There are those who would die to protect those they love from harm. Is it so difficult to comprehend that people would move somewhere they don't necessarily like to be with someone they love?

Well said!

[Heracles 417]

It is the British right to talk ####### about Britian. In fact it is our civil duty. Self deprivation is a national past-time.

Why can't I go there and talk ####### too. The Bush's been ####### talking years now. ....and the UK and America have this special relationship. We bend over and they give it us.

I only want the US to be with my wife. but we'll stop this process because you can't take a little criticism / British Irony!!

For folks sake!!

Don't even get aussies started about whiny poms...

Nobody is forced to Immigarte to the USA so what in the world is the point?

If someone doesn't like the US and the "American way of life" then why can't they stay at home???

Nat

Because love unlike countries, has no boundries. There are those who would die to protect those they love from harm. Is it so difficult to comprehend that people would move somewhere they don't necessarily like to be with someone they love?

The point he is trying to make is that obviously a US residents partner is from overseas, otherwise they wouldn't be in these forums. So why not move to the other country rather than bash the US way of life? The US is the US.. If I wanted to live a French lifestyle I would move to France..

The way I see it, 99% of the reason I moved to the US was to be with my partner. Yet, if I totally disliked the US and its way of life I would have stayed in Australia and brought my partner there.. Irrespective of whatever is written in the constitution, what right do I have to go into someone else's house, per say, and bash and talk trash about it..

[PsychoKat 0]

It is the British right to talk ####### about Britian. In fact it is our civil duty. Self deprivation is a national past-time.

Why can't I go there and talk ####### too. The Bush's been ####### talking years now. ....and the UK and America have this special relationship. We bend over and they give it us.

I only want the US to be with my wife. but we'll stop this process because you can't take a little criticism / British Irony!!

For folks sake!!

Don't even get aussies started about whiny poms...

Nobody is forced to Immigarte to the USA so what in the world is the point?

If someone doesn't like the US and the "American way of life" then why can't they stay at home???

Nat

Because love unlike countries, has no boundries. There are those who would die to protect those they love from harm. Is it so difficult to comprehend that people would move somewhere they don't necessarily like to be with someone they love?

The point he is trying to make is that obviously a US residents partner is from overseas, otherwise they wouldn't be in these forums. So why not move to the other country rather than bash the US way of life? The US is the US.. If I wanted to live a French lifestyle I would move to France..

The way I see it, 99% of the reason I moved to the US was to be with my partner. Yet, if I totally disliked the US and its way of life I would have stayed in Australia and brought my partner there.. Irrespective of whatever is written in the constitution, what right do I have to go into someone else's house, per say, and bash and talk trash about it..

Life isn't always that black and white, cut and dried.

Yet, if I totally disliked the US and its way of life I would have stayed in Australia and brought my partner there..

Simple if it's just you and your partner involved, but there are more than a few people going through this process that have more than just themselves to consider, with children and parental responsibilities involved it becomes a bit more difficult.

Put yourself in those shoes for a moment, if you totally disliked the US and it's way of life, but your partner had children from a previous marriage that she could not legally relocate to a foreign country, what would you do, try to deal with the country for the love of your partner, urge your partner to abandon his/her children and relocate to Australia, or abandon your partner and hope you'll find that kind of love sometime again in your life?

[Heracles 417]

I work in a poncy art gallery for christ sake I'm artsy and creative-minded. I walk a different path sometimes. I'm not off the rails just a bit off target sometimes but you can't accept that people are different and love the differences.

You should look at moving to a city which is artistic like San Fran, NYC etc... Moving to Texas, for example, is not the way to go in your case..

At this moment my Asian neighbours are playing Bhangra music, whilst the Portugese up the road celibrate their world cup win over England. I ain't telling them to become British in mind, attitude and hearts. they are who they are and I love them for it. ....and they do have a sense of humour.

Personally I don't agree with this development. I personally believe if I moved to China I should assimilate into the chinese culture and not expect them to change to suit me. Whereas countries like Australia and the UK have allowed every man and his hajib to come into the country and do as they please, with little or absolutely no chance of them assimilating into society let alone respecting its people or culture..

I am PROUD that Americans expect immigrants to become American, instead of simply letting them set up their own little sub-culture within the country, as with the UK and AUS.. Yet sadly America is heading down the path of Uk and Aus just to be politically correct. That is why before you know it I might have to learn spanish to order a burger.. I guess you probably see no problem with this happening..

[Heracles 417]

Simple if it's just you and your partner involved, but there are more than a few people going through this process that have more than just themselves to consider, with children and parental responsibilities involved it becomes a bit more difficult.

Put yourself in those shoes for a moment, if you totally disliked the US and it's way of life, but your partner had children from a previous marriage that she could not legally relocate to a foreign country, what would you do, try to deal with the country for the love of your partner, urge your partner to abandon his/her children and relocate to Australia, or abandon your partner and hope you'll find that kind of love sometime again in your life?

I see your point.

Does one's situation though give them the right to ###### it up and be negative to others who don't feel the same way?? I see this attitude is becoming a big problem in the US and around the world, in general..

That is, if I am having a bad day , simply have bad luck or my circumstances where not as good as someone elses I can simply take it out on others and even blame them for it. This is a big problem with a large number of people in the black american community. For example, a number of them chant "Poor us poor us". Yet this group never ever dares to talk about a mexican or any other immigrant for that matter coming from another country with nothing, working hard and eventually building a life for themselves and their family.. Or how so many people of Asian origin came here with nothing yet now have the highest median wage, through educating their children and being good hardworking citizens..

Since the post 60's a large number of groups are turning this country into a ###### hole, into a 3rd world country. Simply because they have not got their way. Because apparently the white man has ###### it up for them. A lot of people today just can't accept the fact that its up to themselves to improve their life and change their life / circumstances, not other people. Instead they live a life where they take the easy road of blaming everybody else for their circumstances and doing nothing POSITIVE to change their life. For example, I didn't get into college because I fu###d around in high school, "Nope... Its because they are racists man!! yeah thats it they are racists ."

People in the middle east are really good at playing a similar game. The blame game that is. Its easy for them to blame America rather than their 6000 year history of constant war and hate. Its easier for them to blame America rather than look at succesful muslim countries such as UAE, Malaysia, Singapore or cities like Dubai etc and see how much progress they have made...

[Ban Hammer 14,286]

oooooooooo0000000000oooooooooooo when erekose finds this post he's gonna need cpr

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

oooooooooo0000000000oooooooooooo when erekose finds this post he's gonna need cpr

I don't like fishbait.

With regards to the post in question - assuming that everything will be all right with the world simply by making it look all right strikes me as a little naive. Suggesting that significant social, educational and ethnic disparities can be solved simply by "people pulling their socks up" (or are somehow irrelevant) is also naive - but also not untypical of the position of someone who hasn't experienced many of the very real obstacles that someone who has not had to deal with the very real obstacles faced by people of certain ethnicities. Words are cheap. As we all know.

Edited August 31, 2006 by erekose

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It seems after some discussion elsewhere in this forum, that it is the considered opinion of others that to immigrate to the US I should become a Stars and Stripes Waving, Republican Voting, Gun Toting, Free Will Denying, Bend over and take it up the ### Immigrant from the UK.

Are we allowed to express ourselves freely in the US or is there a gagging order, we sign at the consul interview??

upon entry in the usa, you have to take a mandatory course at the firing range. failure to hit the target 15 out of 20 times is cause for being deported

Well, you can always get around that: Ditch the Scotch and do the Bourbon.

[Heracles 417]

With regards to the post in question - assuming that everything will be all right with the world simply by making it look all right strikes me as a little naive. Suggesting that significant social, educational and ethnic disparities can be solved simply by "people pulling their socks up" (or are somehow irrelevant) is also naive - but also not untypical of the position of someone who hasn't experienced many of the very real obstacles that someone who has not had to deal with the very real obstacles faced by people of certain ethnicities. Words are cheap. As we all know.

sounds like the kind of person who turns a blind eye to reverse racism... This is where I agree with some of the previous posts. So many Americans, especially your leftwing mob, have their heads in the sand..

Only 20% of Americans have passports. This is a clear indication of how many people travel abroad. Travel is what broadens the mind.. I guess that is why 'certain' people in the US insist on wrecking it for everybody else. Certain people who chose to open their mouth but don't dare travel to countries like south africa, for example, and see for themselves how lucky they are to be living in the US and not in a country where people are 12 times more likely to be killed.. Or how its funny that there doesn't seem to be a Snopp Dogg or Will Smith coming out of Rwanda, a place where people drink milk once a month and are dying.. Of course, these people stay in their little liberal strongholds and blame the US and right for everything.

I just wish American congress proposed a new 'common sense' amendment which states: 'America is for people who love, believe and bloddy want to be in America. For people who want to do the best they can to progress their lives and America. In its good times and bad..'

Edited August 31, 2006 by Infidel

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I just wish American congress proposed a new 'common sense' amendment which states: 'America is for people who love, believe and bloddy want to be in America. For people who want to do they best they can to progress their lives and America. In its good times and bad..'

So, you just wish the American Congress would kill the very foundation of America. Yeah, that'll make it all good. Some people...

[Heracles 417]

I just wish American congress proposed a new 'common sense' amendment which states: 'America is for people who love, believe and bloddy want to be in America. For people who want to do the best they can to progress their lives and America. In its good times and bad..'

So, you just wish the American Congress would kill the very foundation of America. Yeah, that'll make it all good. Some people...

Its just really hard to find any other country in the world which is happy to house people who have no respect, or admiration and quite frankly couldn't give 2 hoots about the country or its people..

PS. And I am not saying this just about people who are anti Bush or hate the right or simply hate the general attitude of some Americans.. I feel there are a lot of people born in American, certain offending groups, who should re-evaluate their lives and consider moving if they still feel their Great, great, great, great, great grandparents were treated so badly.. Funny how history classes in the US fail to mention that most of these people were actually sold by their own people.. Once again I know there is a good proportion who have moved on and don't use the race card 24/7 but the fact remains there are still a lot of people who feel their naive actions are justified..

Edited August 31, 2006 by Infidel

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I just wish American congress proposed a new 'common sense' amendment which states: 'America is for people who love, believe and bloddy want to be in America. For people who want to do the best they can to progress their lives and America. In its good times and bad..'

So, you just wish the American Congress would kill the very foundation of America. Yeah, that'll make it all good. Some people...

Its just really hard to find any other country in the world which is happy to house people who have no respect, or admiration and quite frankly couldn't give 2 hoots about the country or its people..

No, it's just seems really hard for you to grasp the concept of someone loving and respecting a country but having doubts, disagreements or even disrespect for it's current government. Somehow, the America I moved to in 1996 was quite different from the America I live in today. There are radicals trying to tell me and my fellow Americans how to live while it's none of their fcuking business. And I will continue to tell them to ** the hell off!

I still love America: It's the home of choice for me and my wife.