Another question please help

[ivy88 0]

I must be driving you crazy with all my questions but I really trust all of your information. I'm the beneficiary, and I used to live in the U.S but I had to leave because I got a voluntary departure letter. I left the U.S within the time frame immigration gave me to leave. I was reading the documents needed for the ds-230 on the website and it says that if you were deported you would need to fill out form I-212. Here is what it says on the website:

"Applicants who have previously been deported or removed at government expense from the United States must obtain Form I-212, Permission to Reapply after Deportation, from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service, or from a U.S. Embassy or Consulate, and follow the instructions included on that form."

From what I understand I wouldn't need to fill out a I 212 because I left within the time they gave me to leave and I didn't leave at government expense from the United States. What do you think?

[AaronM 0]

I must be driving you crazy with all my questions but I really trust all of your information. I'm the beneficiary, and I used to live in the U.S but I had to leave because I got a voluntary departure letter. I left the U.S within the time frame immigration gave me to leave. I was reading the documents needed for the ds-230 on the website and it says that if you were deported you would need to fill out form I-212. Here is what it says on the website:

"Applicants who have previously been deported or removed at government expense from the United States must obtain Form I-212, Permission to Reapply after Deportation, from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service, or from a U.S. Embassy or Consulate, and follow the instructions included on that form."

From what I understand I wouldn't need to fill out a I 212 because I left within the time they gave me to leave and I didn't leave at government expense from the United States. What do you think?

Thats not what it says to me , if you break down each word , and define it it says from what you wrote . (1) Applicants who have previously been deported (2) or removed at government expense ( from the united states )

So if you have left , in the time they tell you . That is still deportation , so from what you said after that as follows .( need to fill out a I-212 ), so in my opinion you must still fill out the I-212 . And submite it too the proper place , so its filed

[ivy88 0]

I found this too

" • Removal (Including Deportation) under a Formal Order . An alien who was deported or removed following a deportation or removal hearing before an immigration judge requires consent to reapply within 10 years of the date of removal. If the alien was actually arrested and deported, the file will usually contain a Warrant of Deportation/Removal ( Form I-205 ). Generally, if a warrant was not issued and executed, consent to reapply is not required: however, in the case of an alien who departed after the voluntary departure period set forth in the decision of the immigration judge, the file may not contain an executed Warrant of Deportation/Removal. Nevertheless, because the judge's deportation order became effective the day after the expiration of voluntary departure authorization, the alien's departure after the date is a deportation pursuant to 8 CFR 241.1(f) , and the alien does require consent to reapply. Occasionally, an alien who departed the U.S. under voluntary departure will believe that such departure constituted a deportation, and will file a Form I-212. If the relating A- file does not contain an executed Warrant of Deportation or an indication that departure was effected after the voluntary departure date granted in an alternate order of deportation, the Form I-212 is not necessary."

[lainie 0]

I found this too

" • Removal (Including Deportation) under a Formal Order . An alien who was deported or removed following a deportation or removal hearing before an immigration judge requires consent to reapply within 10 years of the date of removal. If the alien was actually arrested and deported, the file will usually contain a Warrant of Deportation/Removal ( Form I-205 ). Generally, if a warrant was not issued and executed, consent to reapply is not required: however, in the case of an alien who departed after the voluntary departure period set forth in the decision of the immigration judge, the file may not contain an executed Warrant of Deportation/Removal. Nevertheless, because the judge's deportation order became effective the day after the expiration of voluntary departure authorization, the alien's departure after the date is a deportation pursuant to 8 CFR 241.1(f) , and the alien does require consent to reapply. Occasionally, an alien who departed the U.S. under voluntary departure will believe that such departure constituted a deportation, and will file a Form I-212. If the relating A- file does not contain an executed Warrant of Deportation or an indication that departure was effected after the voluntary departure date granted in an alternate order of deportation, the Form I-212 is not necessary."

It sounds to me like you made a 'voluntary departure' within the time frame they gave you...you were not arrested and deported. I wouldnt think you need to file any I-212...someone correct me if wrong here...