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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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Before i ask questions, i will explain my scenario/situation first:

My USC wife alredy filed form I-130. I (B1/B2 visa) will be filing for AOS I-485 as soon as i get the receipt notice of I-130. I understand that an affidavit of support I-864 is required when filing for I-485. Here now is the tricky part... there are three of us in the family, my wife (USC), our baby (USC) and me (B1/B2 visa). Based on the poverty guidelines, the sponsor needs to be earning around $22,000 a year for a household size of 3 in order to be eligible to be a sponsor. My wife makes more than that so that means she is eligible. The thing is... we live with my wife's relatives (aunt, her spouse and another uncle). That would now make the household size 6. My wife will not be able to make the income requirement for household of 6. We now need form I-864A, contract between sponsor and household member.

instructions on how to count household size says it includes sponsor/petitioner, spouse, dependent children under 21, any other dependents listed on the federal income tax return and persons being sponsored regardless where they live. it also says if necessary to meet income requirements to be a sponsor we may include additional relatives (adult children, parents or siblings) as long as they have the same principle residence. it didnt mention aunt and uncle. we are living with my wife's aunt and uncles who are also not dependents listed on her federal tax return. my wife's aunt owns the house by the way. i dont see any category on form I-864 or I-864A that would make my wifes aunt eligible to be a sponsor.

My questions now are:

1. Do we still include them on household size which would make us 6 or just me, my wife and baby which would make household size 3?

2. If we include them, will her aunt be eligible to be the sponsoring household member even if there is no category for aunts and uncles?

3. instead of being the sponsoring household member (I-864A) will the aunt be eligible to be a joint sponsor I-864 (even if my wife meets the income requirement of 125%) ?

4. If the petitioner earns equal or greater than the 125% poverty guideline based on the household size, will that be enough to sponsor an applying immigrant or a joint sponsor still needed?

i hope i didnt forget anything.

urgent response on this matter will be highly appreciated. thanks

12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
03/28/2008 Got 10yr B1/B2 visa
04/12/2008 Arrived in US under B1/B2 visa
08/06/2008 Filed I-539 visa extension
10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
03/14/2009 Mailed I-485, I-864, I-693, I-765 & I-131 thru USPS
03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
04/02/2009 Approval Notice for I-130 received
04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
05/09/2009 Received EAD card
05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
06/27/2009 Welcome Letter received
07/05/2009 Green Card received
06/01/2011 Mailed I-751 Form
06/07/2011 Received NOA for I-751
07/11/2011 Biometrics Done

03/19/2015 Mailed N-400

03/30/2015 NOA Received

04/15/2015 Biometrics Appointment

06/23/2015 Interview

07/22/2015 Oath Ceremony

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Filed: Other Country: Canada
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I don't think you should include them because they are not listed as dependent on your tax returns. For all you know you could be renting a room in their house and have your own happy life

2006

01-27 : we went to dinner on a hot caribbean island

2008

09-07 : decided to get married

09-11 : walked to City Hall in NYC and got married

10-07 : sent in the mega package

2009

01-02 : EAD was received in the mail

02-25 : AOS interview - APPROVED!!!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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thanks for the quick reply and congratulations on your approved AOS!

12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
03/28/2008 Got 10yr B1/B2 visa
04/12/2008 Arrived in US under B1/B2 visa
08/06/2008 Filed I-539 visa extension
10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
03/14/2009 Mailed I-485, I-864, I-693, I-765 & I-131 thru USPS
03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
04/02/2009 Approval Notice for I-130 received
04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
05/09/2009 Received EAD card
05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
06/27/2009 Welcome Letter received
07/05/2009 Green Card received
06/01/2011 Mailed I-751 Form
06/07/2011 Received NOA for I-751
07/11/2011 Biometrics Done

03/19/2015 Mailed N-400

03/30/2015 NOA Received

04/15/2015 Biometrics Appointment

06/23/2015 Interview

07/22/2015 Oath Ceremony

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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my usc wife filed a petition for me and i will be filing for AOS soon, she has only been working for 8 months and it is her first job. her w2 will not show that she can meet the 125% requirement to be eligible coz she has only been working 8 months. will certificate of employment be enough to prove that she will earn more than the 125% yearly income requirement?

12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
03/28/2008 Got 10yr B1/B2 visa
04/12/2008 Arrived in US under B1/B2 visa
08/06/2008 Filed I-539 visa extension
10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
03/14/2009 Mailed I-485, I-864, I-693, I-765 & I-131 thru USPS
03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
04/02/2009 Approval Notice for I-130 received
04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
05/09/2009 Received EAD card
05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
06/27/2009 Welcome Letter received
07/05/2009 Green Card received
06/01/2011 Mailed I-751 Form
06/07/2011 Received NOA for I-751
07/11/2011 Biometrics Done

03/19/2015 Mailed N-400

03/30/2015 NOA Received

04/15/2015 Biometrics Appointment

06/23/2015 Interview

07/22/2015 Oath Ceremony

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
03/28/2008 Got 10yr B1/B2 visa
04/12/2008 Arrived in US under B1/B2 visa
08/06/2008 Filed I-539 visa extension
10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
03/14/2009 Mailed I-485, I-864, I-693, I-765 & I-131 thru USPS
03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
04/02/2009 Approval Notice for I-130 received
04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
05/09/2009 Received EAD card
05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
06/27/2009 Welcome Letter received
07/05/2009 Green Card received
06/01/2011 Mailed I-751 Form
06/07/2011 Received NOA for I-751
07/11/2011 Biometrics Done

03/19/2015 Mailed N-400

03/30/2015 NOA Received

04/15/2015 Biometrics Appointment

06/23/2015 Interview

07/22/2015 Oath Ceremony

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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kabayan any advise? :)

12/29/2007 Got married in the Philippines
03/28/2008 Got 10yr B1/B2 visa
04/12/2008 Arrived in US under B1/B2 visa
08/06/2008 Filed I-539 visa extension
10/23/2008 I-539 approved
02/23/2009 USC wife filed I-130 Chicago Lockbox
02/26/2009 I-130 delivered to Chicago Lockbox
02/27/2009 Medical exam I-693
03/01/2009 Negative result on TB skin test
03/04/2009 I-130 received by California Service Center
03/05/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/06/2009 Medical Exam form I-693 released by civil surgeon
03/07/2009 NOA Receipt Notice for I-130
03/14/2009 Mailed I-485, I-864, I-693, I-765 & I-131 thru USPS
03/16/2009 "The Package" delivered to Chicago Lockbox
03/16/2009 I-94 expired after 11 months since arrival
03/25/2009 Check cashed by USCIS
03/26/2009 Received NOA for I-485, I-765, I-131
03/28/2009 Received notice for Biometrics Appointment (April 9)
04/02/2009 Approval Notice for I-130 received
04/09/2009 Biometrics done
05/07/2009 Received Advance Parole Document
05/08/2009 Received Interview Letter
05/09/2009 Received EAD card
05/11/2009 Applied for SSN
05/16/2009 Received SSN
06/23/2009 AOS interview approved
06/27/2009 Welcome Letter received
07/05/2009 Green Card received
06/01/2011 Mailed I-751 Form
06/07/2011 Received NOA for I-751
07/11/2011 Biometrics Done

03/19/2015 Mailed N-400

03/30/2015 NOA Received

04/15/2015 Biometrics Appointment

06/23/2015 Interview

07/22/2015 Oath Ceremony

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my usc wife filed a petition for me and i will be filing for AOS soon, she has only been working for 8 months and it is her first job. her w2 will not show that she can meet the 125% requirement to be eligible coz she has only been working 8 months. will certificate of employment be enough to prove that she will earn more than the 125% yearly income requirement?

Should be good enough, the USCIS can add you know :thumbs:

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Pakistan
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Atleast the last years tax returns need to be shown if not the last three years. Alongwith 3 month pay stubs. Since I filed recently, I had to thoroughly research for the I-864. You could try sending it without the Tax returns copy but either get the package back or get RFE(Request for Evidence). To your question earlier..... The aunts and uncles or nephews are not depentants of your Wife. They should not be included when counting the household size.

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Before i ask questions, i will explain my scenario/situation first:

My questions now are:

1. Do we still include them on household size which would make us 6 or just me, my wife and baby which would make household size 3?

If you are not financially responsible for them, you do not count them.

2. If we include them, will her aunt be eligible to be the sponsoring household member even if there is no category for aunts and uncles?

Anyone can be a sponsor. As long as they meet the income requirements

3. instead of being the sponsoring household member (I-864A) will the aunt be eligible to be a joint sponsor I-864 (even if my wife meets the income requirement of 125%) ?

If your wife meets the requirements, you do not need another co-sponsor. The rule is, if you make the 125%, your good to go.

4. If the petitioner earns equal or greater than the 125% poverty guideline based on the household size, will that be enough to sponsor an applying immigrant or a joint sponsor still needed?

See above. (3)

i hope i didnt forget anything.

urgent response on this matter will be highly appreciated. thanks

This is what the instructions say:

Your household size includes yourself and the following individuals, no matter where they live: any spouse, any dependent children under the age of 21, any other dependents listed on your most recent Federal income tax return, all persons being sponsored in this affidavit of support, and any immigrants previously sponsored with a Form I-864 or Form I-864 EZ affidavit of support whom you are still obligated to support. If necessary to meet the income requirements to be asponsor, you may include additional relatives (adult children,parents, or siblings) as part of your household size as long as they have the same principle residence as you and promise to use their income and resources in support of the intending immigrant(s).

Edited by Bobby_Umit

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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