More than 200 U.S. citizens killed in Mexico since '04

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So we evolve from "nowhere in Australia" to "in most major cities". I call that progress.

Sadly wrong there too. Problems areas is Aus Cities:

In Sydney we have: Cabramatta, which became notorious in the 1990s for illegal drugs being openly sold in its streets and at its railway station by juvenile drug dealers, and for the political assassination of John Newman in 1994; Punchbowl and Lakemba, focal points of much ethnic tension and ethnic-based crime and Redfern, known for a politically-sensitive failed indigenous housing development called 'The Block', drug-related crimes and an infamous riot in February 2004.

Oh and don't be riding any trains in Brisbane - notorious hangouts for smackheads.

Hell Melbourne even had a Virginia Tech style rampage in 2002, with a guy shooting dead 2 students on a university campus (he was not convicted of murder). Tell a lie - they actually had 3 such incidents there in a 20 year period.

Best place to live out there crimewise would be Western Australia, which has lower violent crime than than the other States - but higher burglary.

Northern Aus. specifically Darwin and Alice Springs have the highest crime rates in the country overall.

[chri'stina 190]

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Why am I trolling? Because you don't agree with me.

Which country has the higher homicide rates? Australia or Mexico.

Which country was this article based on? Australia or Mexico

I don't really dislike you, or always disagree with you...but AJ is funny so I had to laugh.

The arguments between you and Paul Daniels are very entertaining though, I must say.

[Peikko 1,575]

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Why am I trolling? Because you don't agree with me.

Which country has the higher homicide rates? Australia or Mexico.

Which country was this article based on? Australia or Mexico

I don't really dislike you, or always disagree with you...but AJ is funny so I had to laugh.

The arguments between you and Paul Daniels are very entertaining though, I must say.

Exactly. Face it dude, you are highly entertaining.

[Heracles 417]

Here are the points from the OP.

To what degree do incidents like these occur in Australia or to American citizens in Australia?

How frequently does some of the following occur in the US, as stated by PD?

• More than 200 U.S. citizens have been slain in Mexico’s escalating wave of violence since 2004 — an average of nearly one killing a week
• More U.S. citizens suffered unnatural deaths in Mexico than in any other foreign country
• Most died in the recent outbreaks of violence in border cities — Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and Nuevo Laredo.
• Juarez last year ranked among the world’s most murderous cities.
• But in at least 70 other cases, U.S. citizens appear to have been killed while in Mexico for innocent reasons: visiting family, taking a vacation, or simply living or working there.
• Across Mexico, more than 5,000 lives were taken last year, including police, public officials, journalists and bystanders, with seemingly little regard for age, social status or nationality
• Mutilated bodies have been draped on highway overpasses or posed in schoolyards and public squares. Authorities have uncovered mass graves known as narcofosas and body disposal sites, where killers dissolved corpses in barrels of chemicals.
• At least 40 Americans were among those killed and dumped in gruesome methods favored by cartel killers, the Chronicle found. Two Texan teens were victims of an American serial killer in Nuevo Laredo, who bragged to a friend in a recorded cell phone call that he stewed their remains in vats.
• Recent border victims include at least 15 U.S.-born children and teenagers.
• A wave of killings in Juarez — a stunning 1,600 victims in 2008 and more than 210 so far this year — took the lives of three Americans in three weeks, including an El Paso nurse and her physician assistant friend who were showered with bullets on Nov. 22 as they drove in a funeral procession for her sister, who was a victim of an earlier slaying.
• Few killers get caught. Nationally, only 20 percent of homicide cases in Mexico result in arrests, according to a Chronicle analysis of data from the Citizens’ Safety Institute, a Mexico City-based nonprofit that surveys Mexican prosecutors nationwide.
• In addition to those killed, as many as 75 Americans, mainly from Texas and California, remain missing in Mexico, based on FBI data.

Edited February 9, 2009 by Aficionado

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't know Boo - my only point was that given that the murders took place in notoriously bad areas, and that this suggested some naivete on the part of the victims for not being aware of their surroundings.

I have no idea what you're trying to get at with your ####### measuring competition between Mexico and Aus.

[Heracles 417]

I don't really dislike you, or always disagree with you...but AJ is funny so I had to laugh.

The arguments between you and Paul Daniels are very entertaining though, I must say.

Lets look at who is attacking:

• Paul Daniels
• A.J.
• TävôLuDô
• HAL 9000
• Madame Cleo

The usual bunch who just so happen to gang up on and attack most people they disagree with. Pretty much every thread I am antagonized in involves one or more of these members. So that is either a 'coincidence', or my favorite "generalizing", or basically how the OT section of VJ rolls. Of course, naturally, their mod buddies turn a blind eye. God forbid anyone do the same to one of them. VJ suspensions fly in no time when that happens.

Edited February 9, 2009 by Aficionado

[alienlovechild 75]

I'd leave Australia out of this one. It's like comparing tacos to vegemite sandwiches.

[HAL 9000 96]

I don't really dislike you, or always disagree with you...but AJ is funny so I had to laugh.

The arguments between you and Paul Daniels are very entertaining though, I must say.

Lets look at who is attacking:

• Paul Daniels
• A.J.
• TävôLuDô
• HAL 9000
• Madame Cleo

The usual bunch who just so happen to gang up on and attack most people they disagree with. Pretty much every thread I am antagonized in involves one or more of these members.

I am flattered that I am now attacking you somehow. Keep up the good work brother Boo Yah!

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

man this is better than watching somebody digging his own grave

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't really dislike you, or always disagree with you...but AJ is funny so I had to laugh.

The arguments between you and Paul Daniels are very entertaining though, I must say.

Lets look at who is attacking:

• Paul Daniels
• A.J.
• TävôLuDô
• HAL 9000
• Madame Cleo

The usual bunch who just so happen to gang up on and attack most people they disagree with. Pretty much every thread I am antagonized in involves one or more of these members.

Oh give it a rest. You get the attention because you say ridiculous things. That's all.

And anyone who questions you in a thread is added to your silly, arbitrary lists - as some sort of organized "bully club".

Geez man....

Grow up or grow a pair.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'd leave Australia out of this one. It's like comparing tacos to vegemite sandwiches.

Well... Vegemite is a "love it or hate it" thing. Offhand I don't know anyone who feels that way about tacos

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... their mod buddies turn a blind eye. God forbid anyone do the same to one of them. VJ suspensions fly in no time when that happens.

2 of the 4 mods can't stand me. The Admin can't stand me. Feel free to report me if you wish. I've been suspended before, quite a few times

[Peikko 1,575]

Gang up and attack

Gotta hand it to you BY, you are one of a kind

[Heracles 417]

Oh give it a rest. You get the attention because you say ridiculous things. That's all.

And anyone who questions you in a thread is added to your silly, arbitrary lists - as some sort of organized "bully club".

Geez man....

Grow up or grow a pair.

Okay so I should just sit here and have you guys follow me around and attack every second post of mine.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh give it a rest. You get the attention because you say ridiculous things. That's all.

And anyone who questions you in a thread is added to your silly, arbitrary lists - as some sort of organized "bully club".

Geez man....

Grow up or grow a pair.

Okay so I should just sit here and have you guys follow me around and attack every second post of mine.

Dude, seriously, get a life. This isn't playschool.