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Ok, first one disappeared before anyone got to read it.

I read somewhere that someone said that her Mahr was more than normal based on being white and fair-haired.

Do you believe this is really a factor in the determination of the size of a woman's Mahr?

How DOES that get determined, anyway? I've always wondered about dowries and such, so I figured I'd ask people who are actually involved with a culture that still has dowries/Mahrs/etc.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. ####### coated bastards with ####### filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bobble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
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I'm white but I have freckles all over me so mine was discounted.

LOL!

No, seriously.....

I really AM curious.

:P

Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. ####### coated bastards with ####### filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bobble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
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I have no idea what they call the worth platy!! I just know that it something they should do but I wouldn't take a dime from my husband. If he divorces me here, he has more than just an Egyptian Dowry to pay with our judicial system.

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I'm white but I have freckles all over me so mine was discounted.

LOL!

No, seriously.....

I really AM curious.

:P

i'm not kidding. It was down to 10 EGP but then the big boobies were discovered so that bumped it up. (no pun intended)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I gotta go find out what's in this coffee!!!

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:rofl:

I'm white but I have freckles all over me so mine was discounted.

LOL!

No, seriously.....

I really AM curious.

:P

i'm not kidding. It was down to 10 EGP but then the big boobies were discovered so that bumped it up. (no pun intended)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I gotta go find out what's in this coffee!!!

:rofl: You are going to make me pee!

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Penny a pound isn't it?

Jax

Wow! A whole $1.05?! All for you to do with as you want???

Maybe this mahr thing is over-rated.....

Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. ####### coated bastards with ####### filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bobble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
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Penny a pound isn't it?

Jax

Wow! A whole $1.05?! All for you to do with as you want???

Maybe this mahr thing is over-rated.....

*COUGHIthinkitisCOUGH!*

Sorry I have a cold :whistle:

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In case anyone actually cares and isn't just looking to stir ####:

In most schools of thought (ie codified methods to interpret islam), there are several different sources from which a ruling is drawn. One of these is urf, culture. While mahr, dowry, is spoken about in the Qur'an, and we see that the companions of the Prophet (saws) all gave mahr, exactly what a man gives today is dependant upon the culture of himself and his wife. In Egypt, a man will have to purchase a fully furnished apartment. In Iraq, it's a certain amount of gold. In the US, a woman may ask for cash, a house, a car, a college education, a hajj trip, or any number of things.

Marriage without a dowry: Is it valid?

It should be noted that Islam does not stipulate a minimum or a maximum amount of dowry that must be paid. It is left to the traditions and customs of each territory, but the groom has to pay something to the bride regardless of the amount.

In your case, if you gathered to conclude the marriage contract and you did not mention the dowry, then your marriage is valid, but you need to pay your wife a dowry that is equal to her peers'.

Stipulations regarding mahr in the hanafi madhab

Therefore, if you did not fix or stipulate an amount as dowry (mahr) when marrying, then if you have consummated your marriage (which I'm sure you have, for you state being married for two years), you will be required to pay an amount which is typically received as dowry by similar brides (mahr al-mithl). Now, mahr al-mithl is that which is customarily received as dowry by brides from the wife's father's side, such as her sisters, paternal aunties, paternal auntie's daughters, etc. Her mother and maternal aunties will not be taken into consideration unless they are from her father's family. If no woman similar to her is found on her father's side, then one will look at other non-related women.

Excessive amounts of dowry

"Give them (women) their dowers." (Surah al-Nisa, 24)

The minimum amount for dowry is ten Dirhams (30.618 grams of silver) and there is no maximum limit. Thus, the bride and groom may mutually agree upon whatever sum they desire. However, it is wrong and disliked to fix a large sum as dowry, especially when the groom is not financially capable of paying the amount.

Sayyiduna Umar ibn al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) said: "Do not stipulate excessive amounts as dowry for women. If (doing so) was a token of honour in this world or a source of piety by Allah, then the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) would have been more worthy of it than you�." (Sunan Tirmidhi, no 1114)

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No, I really AM curious about it.

However, if people have fun in this thread too, even better! :P

Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. ####### coated bastards with ####### filling. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bobble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
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Further, as an example, mine was a small amount of money up front, and the cost of further education once I decide what the heck it is that I want to do with my life. It was suppose to be law school, but now I'm looking into studying one of the islamic sciences. Haven't decided what area I'd specialize in just yet, so I'm just doing the basics for now.

Also, a cat. and inshaAllah we'll be getting that cat in a few weeks :D

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No, I really AM curious about it.

However, if people have fun in this thread too, even better! :P

Fun and starting #### are two totally different things.

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