Is Obama even a citizen of the U.S.?

[LaL 418]

Please stop perpetuating the myth that seals are fat and lazy and require handouts to live. For your information, a lot of friends are fat and lazy and only a handful of them are seals.

Did you see the picture of this particular seal?

I make it my business not to read all of a thread before posting. I fail to see how further information bears any relevance to my putting forth my opinion.

Now that's a seal to feel sorry about. \

But a seal with snow on it. Oh the horror!!!! Gawd you libs are funny.

[Staashi 371]

I realize that this thread might be all in fun, but here is the definition of a natural born citizen:

The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens." (See ref. for the Act of 1795)

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Racist, bigoted idiots!!!! And on an immigration website no less!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Obama's father was Vulcan. You can see it in his ears.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Exactly. Don't pay any attention to Rogue (Marc). He's just an angry little man who's mad at the whole world most of the time.

[Staashi 371]

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Exactly. Don't pay any attention to Rogue (Marc). He's just an angry little man who's mad at the whole world most of the time.

So, so true. Yet, if he's such a purist, why go beyond our borders to import a wife??? Why not just get your own natural born US citizen??? hmmmmm

[bgreed 0]

I realize that this thread might be all in fun, but here is the definition of a natural born citizen:

The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens." (See ref. for the Act of 1795)

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Racist, bigoted idiots!!!! And on an immigration website no less!

Well if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that for a person to become president of the United States they have to be born IN the United states. Being the offspring of a U.S. citizen and being born outside the borders of the U.S. doesn't qualify you.

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I realize that this thread might be all in fun, but here is the definition of a natural born citizen:

The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens." (See ref. for the Act of 1795)

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Racist, bigoted idiots!!!! And on an immigration website no less!

Well if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that for a person to become president of the United States they have to be born IN the United states. Being the offspring of a U.S. citizen and being born outside the borders of the U.S. doesn't qualify you.

'Natural born' citizens can be born overseas to US citizens.

McCain was born in Panama.

[IAMX 3,055]

I realize that this thread might be all in fun, but here is the definition of a natural born citizen:

The requirements for citizenship and the very definition thereof have changed since the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, under the first naturalization law: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens." (See ref. for the Act of 1795)

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Racist, bigoted idiots!!!! And on an immigration website no less!

Well if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that for a person to become president of the United States they have to be born IN the United states. Being the offspring of a U.S. citizen and being born outside the borders of the U.S. doesn't qualify you.

'Natural born' citizens can be born overseas to US citizens.

McCain was born in Panama.

Jesus H.. people are ###### stupid.

[panamania79 2]

W Ketchup Calls on Obama to Release his Personal Records

:PLACE Eagle Bridge :CITY , NY :STATE — October 16, 2008 — Less than three weeks before the election, lingering questions remain about front-runner Barack Obama's past, including whether he is even constitutionally qualified for office.

Senator Obama says he was born in Hawaii , but he refuses to release a copy of his birth certificate. Prominent Democratic lawyer Philip Berg has sued, claiming that Obama is not a natural born US citizen and therefore not eligible to be President. The campaign has released two digital images of a certificate, one on Obama’s website, and a separate image on Factcheck.org. The first is widely believed to be a forgery, and the second has not been made available for inspection. Commentators have noted that Factcheck.org is supported by the Annenberg Foundation, and Obama was chairman of the Chicago branch of the fund.

Obama spent part of his childhood growing up in Indonesia after his mother married an Indonesian. In his lawsuit, Berg demonstrates that only Indonesian citizens were able to attend school during the years in which Obama was enrolled, and Obama is listed as an Indonesian citizen in his school’s records. Obama would have had to reinstate his American citizenship when he returned to Hawaii ; otherwise he would be an undocumented, illegal alien. Obama has not released his Certificate of Citizenship.

Obama is represented in the suit by Joe Sandler, lawyer for the Council of American-Islamic Relations, which has proven links to Islamic terrorists. Instead of releasing the requested documents to the court, Sandler on October 6 asked for delay of discovery until after the election.

Bill Zachary, Chairman of W Ketchup, reacted: “The American people have a right to know the identity of this international man of mystery poised to become our next president. We view conspiracy theories, rightwing and leftwing, with a good deal of skepticism, but it is disturbing that Obama is dragging out a court case that should be simple to resolve – assuming he has nothing to hide.”

Obama’s life grows murkier as it progresses. He has admitted to using cocaine and marijuana in high school, and went on to attend Occidental and Columbia University for his B.A., and then to Harvard Law School . Obama has not released his transcripts, papers or records from any of these academic institutions.

W Ketchup has learned that senior Republicans believe Obama may have indicated his religious status as Muslim at Columbia and Harvard, a possible reason he does not want those records public. Obama has acknowledged benefitting from affirmative action.

Other information that Obama has not released includes his medical records, his law firm clients, and his records as an Illinois State Senator. Last week, however, Judicial Watch announced it had obtained documents under the Freedom of Information Act showing Obama had submitted earmarks for hundreds of thousands of dollars directed to supporters, including his wife’s cousin, while he was a state legislator.

W Ketchup CEO Dan Oliver commented: “Obama has requested $1 million per day in federal earmarks since he became a senator. We wonder, if he becomes president, how many earmarks he will direct toward other family members, such as his first cousin, Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga, and his Kenyan half-brother, George Hussein Onyango Obama.”

Well,McPain was born in Panama.

[Teacher Mark 53]

This is what I get for reading VJ when my students are watching a movie. I just LOLed when I read the name...

That birth certificate is comic genius! My favorite parts are Fathers Occupation: Murderer, Liar....Sales and Attendant at Birth, Ho Chi Minh OB/GYN.

Edited October 18, 2008 by Joe Six-Pack

[bgreed 0]

Excuse me I forgot to add military installations, diplomatic missions, U.S protectorates. You can keep trying all you want if he doesn't meet those criteria he is not natural born.

I happen to know just a little about this as my son was born in Ukraine. He is considered in the same manner as a person born in the U.S. as far as passports etc. are concerned but he connot run for the office of the President of the United States.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Google is your friend!

Constitutional wording leaves doubts about citizens born abroad : How 'American' must a president be?

WASHINGTON: The U.S. Constitution specifies that only a "natural born citizen" can become president of the United States, and after more than two centuries of uncertainty about the phrase, Congress is taking steps to clarify its meaning.

As the United States has become more diverse, speculation has arisen in presidential races over whether contenders like Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, who was born to American parents in the Panama Canal Zone, are eligible for the nation's highest office.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose name surfaced in presidential speculation after he won California's governorship, is now barred from the country's top post because he was born in Austria and obtained American citizenship in 1983.

The constitutional wording has left doubts about whether those born on foreign soil are on an equal footing with those whose birth occurred inside the country's borders.

Senator Don Nickles, Republican of Oklahoma, wants to spell out, once and for all, who is a natural born American.

"We should not wait for an election to be challenged," Nickles said when he introduced his bill, "and the courts to then decide what 'natural born' means."

His Natural Born Citizen Act would include children born outside the United States to citizen parents. That would include McCain, whose parents were citizens, as well as an estimated two million others who, according to government figures, have been born to U.S. parents living and working overseas.

Such clarification "provides comfort and certainty to members of the American military and foreign services," Nickles explained, "as well as expatriate families, that their children, too, are eligible to run for president."

Although it is generally accepted that birth-right citizenship includes both those born on U.S. soil and overseas to U.S. citizen parents, it was not always the case, said T. Alexander Aleinikoff, a constitutional scholar who will shortly become dean of Georgetown University Law School in Washington.

In 1790, he said, Congress passed the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which gave citizenship to children born overseas if the father was a U.S. citizen. In 1934, it was extended to include the children of mothers who were citizens.

But whether people born in those circumstances can serve as president has never been set in legal concrete because it has never been challenged, said Aleinikoff, who specializes in citizenship issues.

"The Constitution does not say you have to be born in the United States, so there is room to decide what 'natural born' means, but the informal interpretation that we all accept has never been tested," he said.

"Clearly, though," he said in an interview, the Constitution "indicates anybody who is naturalized is not natural born, and this is a ridiculous provision."

Currently about 28 million of the estimated 293 million people in the United States were born outside the country. That means that almost 10 percent of the residents cannot run for president, a fact that has grabbed the attention of the growing number of adoptive parents of children born abroad.

When their children learn about the U.S. government in school, many begin to realize that part of the American dream — that you can grow up to be anything, including president — can never be theirs.

The Constitution's restrictions, said 9-year-old Maria Rinehart-Jones, who was adopted from China and now lives in New York, are "a bad idea because not all Americans who run for president will be as good at it as a Chinese American might be."

"And, if they don't change the law," she said, "no one will ever know that."

The number of foreign-born children adopted by Americans rose to more than 21,000 last year. Adoption groups estimate that over that past 15 years, about 190,000 children have been adopted into American homes.

The legislation "underlines how Americans look at families with adopted kids," said David Youtz, president of Families With Children From China of Greater New York, who added, "Adopted kids are not to be denied the same rights as biological children.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/06/03/a5_1.php

Edited October 18, 2008 by Joe Six-Pack

[panamania79 2]

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Exactly. Don't pay any attention to Rogue (Marc). He's just an angry little man who's mad at the whole world most of the time.

So that's what his problem is ?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Exactly. Don't pay any attention to Rogue (Marc). He's just an angry little man who's mad at the whole world most of the time.

So that's what his problem is ?

Yep. Clouds - hates 'em.

[panamania79 2]

Even if he was born in Kenya, which he wasn't, he is still a natural born citizen due to his mother being from the US.

Exactly. Don't pay any attention to Rogue (Marc). He's just an angry little man who's mad at the whole world most of the time.

So that's what his problem is ?

Yep. Clouds - hates 'em.