Election and Russia

[dufflebag 0]

Watching the election and was wondering who you thought was best politcians for us guys and their potential new wives. I thinking that woman like Palin will provide more traditional values like they have in Russia and Ukraine. Not some transgender like Hillary Clinton. I know quite few of the guys like Russian women like myself, but dislike Palin (who I think acts like a good ole fashion traditional Russian lady), but are big time democrats. Why is that? Why is it that we seek family values from another nation and vote non traditional value party like Democrats.

[akdiver 3]

Watching the election and was wondering who you thought was best politcians for us guys and their potential new wives. I thinking that woman like Palin will provide more traditional values like they have in Russia and Ukraine. Not some transgender like Hillary Clinton. I know quite few of the guys like Russian women like myself, but dislike Palin (who I think acts like a good ole fashion traditional Russian lady), but are big time democrats. Why is that? Why is it that we seek family values from another nation and vote non traditional value party like Democrats.

All of the candidates suck. It makes no difference which one is elected to office.

FWIW, I think "traditional family values" is code-speak for religious nutcase, anti-evolution, anti-abortion, anti women's rights, pro children, douche bag from the dark ages or earlier. I certainly don't look for these values in my politicians, let along my wife.

Edited September 23, 2008 by akdiver

[slim 1,533]

All of the candidates suck. It makes no difference which one is elected to office.

Quote of the year!

I said it before, and I'll say it again.... AKDiver for President!

FWIW, I think "traditional family values" is code-speak for religious nutcase, anti-evolution, anti-abortion, anti women's rights, pro children, douche bag from the dark ages or earlier. I certainly don't look for these values in my politicians, let along my wife.

I think that's what you get when you ask the American media what it means in an American woman.

What it means in a foreign lady is she doesn't mind keeping her weight in proportion to her body size, looking sexy even after having children and/or being married for years, knowing how to sew, cook, clean, iron, and not only doesn't mind keeping her husband happy.... but likes to keep her husband happy.

[eekee 182]

Yes, this argument makes a whole lot of sense, because American men have spent the last 8 years emulating vice president ####### Cheney. Schlumpy, bald, frightening.

And also I think most of this russian/other foreign women vs american women stuff is BS. Yeah, Russian women are very done up and look good... When they're young. By the time they're older, American women look waaay better. Easier life, more free time, less environmental problems to damage the skin, better healthcare, botox...

[Satellite 1]

And also I think most of this russian/other foreign women vs american women stuff is BS. Yeah, Russian women are very done up and look good... When they're young. By the time they're older, American women look waaay better. Easier life, more free time, less environmental problems to damage the skin, better healthcare, botox...

Many of the folks here with a significant age difference will be long dead before this happens Or, now that those women are here, they'll do all that stuff in the US!

[dufflebag 0]

Yes, this argument makes a whole lot of sense, because American men have spent the last 8 years emulating vice president ####### Cheney. Schlumpy, bald, frightening.

And also I think most of this russian/other foreign women vs american women stuff is BS. Yeah, Russian women are very done up and look good... When they're young. By the time they're older, American women look waaay better. Easier life, more free time, less environmental problems to damage the skin, better healthcare, botox...

I've seen some damn fine looking older Russian women, some of whom are fiancee's/wives of members of this forum. I think it's difficult to say that American women look better or worse as they grow older, because genetically we're just so much more diverse than your average Caucasian. But this "easier life" you mention has a double-edge...many American women (and men) have an easier time letting themselves go as they age and settle into the comfy life. American women also seem to have lost the ability to take what they've got and make it look good, whereas RU women have never lost this art. Both RU and US men have never had this skill.

We are talking age, but what about values? I think women libers and

the democrats are attacking Palin who actuallu stands by traditional

values. Is the problem that we moved our values away from a value

system that promotes the Hillary way in which we lose our life. Women

have the right to choose their life, but the "Herd" on the view

regularly attack women who choose to stay at home and want to lead a

traditional life. We all know that Hillary Clinton keeps Bill's

testacles in a jar over the mantle. That is why he sought other way to

feel like a man.

[NavarreMan 10]

Watching the election and was wondering who you thought was best politcians for us guys and their potential new wives. I thinking that woman like Palin will provide more traditional values like they have in Russia and Ukraine. Not some transgender like Hillary Clinton. I know quite few of the guys like Russian women like myself, but dislike Palin (who I think acts like a good ole fashion traditional Russian lady), but are big time democrats. Why is that? Why is it that we seek family values from another nation and vote non traditional value party like Democrats.

Karl Rove Jr.!

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

We are talking age, but what about values? I think women libers and

the democrats are attacking Palin who actuallu stands by traditional

values.

Important statement there but I dont want a politician to tell me what my values should be that is what my parents did.

Is the problem that we moved our values away from a value

system that promotes the Hillary way in which we lose our life.

Why do you keep bringing up Hillary last I looked she wasnt the candidate. Its the ever increasing shortsighted right wing religious zealots who think just because Palin is a woman that every woman will vote for her. I didnt think Hillary was the right choice right now so I didnt support her. My real question is In 2004 Kerry was accused of being a flip flopper but McCain has now changed his mind so many times I can keep track of where he started. He is for regulation but against regulation that is too regulatory.

[slim 1,533]

Yes, this argument makes a whole lot of sense, because American men have spent the last 8 years emulating vice president ####### Cheney. Schlumpy, bald, frightening.

No matter what position a woman holds, she'll first be judged on her beauty... then ability. Hey, we (guys) didn't make that standard, you (girls) did. We're more than happy to play along though!

But this "easier life" you mention has a double-edge...many American women (and men) have an easier time letting themselves go as they age and settle into the comfy life. American women also seem to have lost the ability to take what they've got and make it look good, whereas RU women have never lost this art.

The "easier life" seems to also add a couple pounds around the mid-section. Sure, there are some straight up gnarly babushkas out there, but for every woman sitting in a portolet collecting money for toilet paper, there's another that still rocks the heels and tight fitting clothes because she's still got it. In the U.S., not so much. The women who've "still got it" seem to have purchased it from their plastic surgeon... and it shows.

[eekee 182]

But they also could be younger than you guess from seeing them. Compare Russian middle-aged female celebrities with American ones. In America we do things later in general. Watching the sex and the city movie my guy refused to believe that we were watching a bunch of women in their forties.

But then again in the US i lived in NYC and South Florida, places where people tend to appearances more than in most other parts of the country, I presume.

[bobb 0]

It's a sad state of affairs when people do not attempt to find out, and let themselves be told and manipulated what a person stands for. Why are Republicans so afraid to let Sarah be subject to the same scrutiny as any other 'candidate' whether male or female. So, it was OK to dig into eveything Hillary did and not Sarah? From Palin - "Perhaps so." in ABC interview whether the U.S. would have to wage war with Russia if it were to re-invade Georgia. Sheez. How many people here even truly understand what has and is happening in Georgia. Have you read articles that present both sides. I guess I'm just trying to say be informed and don't read headlines and believe that represents the story. Yellow Journalism is more alive and thriving than it has ever been.

[bobb 0]

What, my trip in 21 days and 7 1/2 hours? It's the best I've ever felt before going to Eastern Europe; no nagging concerns, no red flags ignored, etc. I went to Belarus and Ukraine several times 2003 - 2005. Then I made a very poor decision in China in 2007. Have you ever wondered "How could I have done something so stupid?" If it was only me that was affected it would have been less painful. I can only go by what I've learned in my life experiences and my past experiences in this endeavor, but I'm very hopeful.

Not sure about trip report, but you never know. If I can write 7,000 + words about a four day trip to the Canadian Rockies for golf and sightseeing along the Icefields Parkway, I suppose I could manage a few words to 'sum' up my trip.

[eekee 182]

St. Pete will be a bit nippy in October, but the weather should still hold up for you nicely. When do you get back?

Not this year. I've been wearing my heavy winter coat since the first week of september and it was a very cold summer. Everyone is expecting a rough, early winter.

[dufflebag 0]

Sorry, I should have introduced myself. I am 38 year divorced man and dealt with this democrat Hillary stuff. Life was great. I worked my night shifts and stuff and came home to sleep. The wife worked part time and took care of the house. when we got married , we stated that we wanted kids and such. I thought was going great until Oprah (also known as the anti christ in my house) started to change my wifes mind.

After working all night, I went to sleep, but I guess I was oppressing my wife, because instead of sleeping, i should have went out shopping. For kids, I guess that meant Shiatsu dog who I am sure was trained to keep me awake in the day.

Despite not saying anything, everything was my fault and received quotes from Dr Phil and Oprah. I finally ended my marriage and everything I wanted, never got except some sugar in my gas tank as a parting gift.

When I went online and thought of being a hermit for the rest my days, a friend of mine married a lady in a city called Magadan in Russia. I met them and I thought what a refreshing change. She dressed to go out. She want to have a family and disliked Shiatsus. He worked a similar shift as me and she understand that it is hard to sleep during the day. She packed a lunch for him instead of 7-11 food. That is when I decided to go on my journey.

I went oline and met this wonderful lady, Elena, from St Petersburg. I was amazed how things were different, in that women wore dresses and were attentive and feminie. I will go further about my relationship later.

But I was wondering when I see Palin who has a large family, loves the outdoors, will fight for her family, and still looks great after 5 kids. I thought her name must be Palinova. I hear all these Democrat fembots trying to skewer her. I am thinking that what is wrong with our lifestyle that we have to look another country for a wife. Will it get worse when Barrack/ Oprah ticket gets in. Why can't a lady be a lady."

I read some comment from a big time democrats here and yet I see them seeking a wife from another country who is more feminine and family oriented, but yet support the same system that pushes the men of this country into being Eunichs. Feminist can do what they want and state they want to give women a choice, but why do they have to rip apart a woman like Palin who chooses to have a big tradition family.

[dufflebag 0]

Bobb and Mox, it sounds like you had quite adventure. I am curious why you seek a woman outside your nation, but yet you support femocrats and their system of what a modern woman should be. Femocrats believe in choice, but only the choice they give you is their own.

Femocrats attack Palin, but you must admit that to be able to take care 5 kids, be a governor, and still have time to do things like hunt and fish is amazing. I do not agree with her in every issue, But it is refreshing to see a lady have traditional values in the public eye.

I chellenge you two, to list what you think the values of a perfect woman should have to be a good wife and mother, then tell me why you are looking outside of your country for this lady, specifically why Russia, Ukraine and China?